I didn't say it was trivial. I said there are plenty worse things in the world and getting caned in Singapore is easily avoidable.

True. To paraphrase Jim Carey, all you have to do is stop breaking the effing law

(or be female, or be over 50).

While looking for information on the Missouri birther bill, I ran across a challenge to long-time Indiana Senator Richard Lugar about residency requirements for Senator. His voter registration is still for a house in Indiana that he sold decades ago. He stays in hotels when he visits the state he represents.

Should there be stricter rules about residency requirements? If they are going to be passing laws to show ID in order to vote, shouldn't Senators set an example and actually live in their district or state and furnish documents to prove it.

I find it hard to believe that Senator Lugar could not afford a small apartment or house to use for purposes of visiting, maintaining residency and a valid voter registration address.

http://rebootcongress.blogspot.com/2012 ... -from.html

copied from another thread:

Courageous, The Movie (from makers of Fireproof)

Postby TollandRCR » Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:35 am

esseff44 wrote:...And then there were the Holy Rollers that were the objects of jokes but people would go watch them be 'taken over by the Holy Spirit.' There would be a lot of shaking and quaking and falling down in trances.


And speaking in tongues and snakes. Lots of snakes.

Neo-Pentecostal sects have formed within many mainstream denominations. Charismatic Catholicism is found all over the world, and in some countries, it has been combined with ancient religious beliefs, just as it earlier was in the Caribbean and parts of Latin America. This symbol of life, not death, is commonly found in older and rural churches in Mexico:

I have always been fascinated by Charismatics of all kinds. They exist everywhere and hark back to our primitive selves and another kind of religious experience.

I have participated in some of these rituals in SE Asia where the adherents chant themselves into a trance and are taken over by a spirit. Another adherent asks the spirit questions about some problem and the spirit answers. When the person comes out of the trance, they have no memory of what transpired.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charism for Christians
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phala for Buddhists and Hindus

And here's one that should not be a surprise and one that every Obot should be very familiar with:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barakah



more at link.

Little do birthers realize that everytime they refer to Obama by this name (with the honorific prefix 'Soe-' ) that they are unintentionally paying tribute to these spiritual gifts.

My guess is that Mama SAD was very much aware of the meaning of the name and also of the spiritual gifts she had seen manifested in her child.

And the related term from the same roots:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berakhah for Hebrews and Judaism

I disagree. I think Senators, Congress-members, The President, members of the military, anyone who works with the federal government, and even missionaries should get exemptions from residency requirements for voting and running for office.

If you perform service work away from home, you should still be considered as a resident of your area of choice.

Should Huntsman be ineligible for POTUS since his address was the American Embassy in China? Should Romney have been limited from serving as POTUS until 14 years after he returned from his missionary gig in France? What about Americorp and Peace Corp workers?

Technically, as an ambasador, he carried his country with him everywhere (i.e. diplomatic immunity)

Agreed. I feel that anytime you are out of the country for government business, be it military or diplomatic, it shouldn't hurt your residency status. I feel the same about children born outside the United States due to their parent(s) being in the military. Missionaries? Not so much.

re residency: Hoover was in China just before his presidency. And I think Eisenhower was doing something in Europe.

I gives you this regarding Sen. Richard Lugar: My mom was his classmate at Shortridge High back in the earlier days of the Holocene Epoch. Her recollection? "Dickie carried a brief case to school." It would appear that high school student Richard "Dickie" Lugar was a bit of a nerd. Mom also recalls him as being unfailingly nice.

Go figure.

OK, here's the pics from my collection.



Drawer: Service pieces #1. L to R -- Pie server, pastery server | 2 pie servers, 1 cheese knife | Top: Bon-bon spoon, 2 olive/relish spoons, Bottom: mustard spoon, lemon fork, child spoon, child fork, curved child spoon.


Drawer: Knives.


Service Spoons: Top and bottom, 2 different tomato servers. L-R Jelly server, Sugar shell, Serving spoon, Berry spoon, Casserole spoon.


SPOONS!!! (Setting) L-R Demitasse, 5 O'Clock coffee, Orange/citrus, teaspoon, tablespoon, Ice tea, bouillon, cream soup, gumbo, ice cream, ice cream fork (spork).


Forks (setting) L-R Youth, Place setting fork, pie, salad/dessert, seafood, pickle.


Carving set drawer: Top to Bottom, 2 Sharpening steels, Roast carving set, Game carving set, Steak carving set | knife sharpener, poultry shears.

Good Lawd. I would have flunked out of Officer Knife and Fork School.

Sugar, creamer, cup. Cake knife and cake fork (serving). Cold meat fork. 3 sizes of ladles. (Soup, gravy, cream)


Butter knife (2 kinds, paddle and point), fruit knife (2 kinds), master butter knife, 3 kinds of knives (dinner1, dinner2, tea)

That's almost every type in the collection. I also have some that are a bit tarnished that I didn't bother to polish and put up. (The silvercloth lining keeps the tarnish at bay, except for the top drawer for some reason.) Sugar tongs, luncheon fork and knife, youth knife.

Now go look and see if you have a Poultry Spoon in this pattern. I'll wait...

When my ex and I got married, we were given his grandmother's complete set of silver plate. It stayed in its box until we moved and got a house about a year later. I was in full nesting phase, and in the process of setting up our new home, I discovered the ONLY thing I have ever found that I am allergic to: silver polish.

I mean highly allergic, hands and feet swelling, welts all over my body, call the doctor quick allergic. It came as a total surprise, because other than that, I don't have any allergies that I know of. I don't even react to poison oak and ivy -- I'm the one who always was sent to fetch the softball when it was fouled off into the woods.

I told my mother that I just wasn't meant to have silver. She told me that was silly -- what I was meant to have was servants. Needless to say, I left it with the ex.

I like your mother's attitude.

We use an instrument in orthopedic surgery called a pickle-fork retractor. I can sort of see the resemblance.

That discussion on caning in singapore reminded mt of the first part of this usic video

My favorite Weird Al parody. (Al is actually kind of hot. ) Plus he employed a ton of people for it. Weird Al - Job Creator!

The Georgia Election Challenge was getting off on a tangent so I brought it over here. Someone wrote that Iranians would be insulted if you called them Arabs and not Persians. That might be so for about 65% of the people who live in Iran. The other 35% belong to various non-Persian ethnic groups and it might be a good idea not to call them Persians. About 2 or 3 % are actually Arabs. The largest minority are a Turkic people, the Azeris. There are also Balochs, Georgians, Armenians, Caspians, Lurs , Gilakis, Mazandaranis, and Jews.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_ ... es_in_Iran

On the other hand, the Persian diaspora has large populations of ethnic Persians in the surroundings countries and beyond.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_people

So, all Iranians are not Persian and all Persians are not Iranian. Recently, I overheard my hospital roommate talking to a relative in a language I did not recognize. When I asked about it, I was told it was Azeri, a Turkish language. The person made it clear to identify as Azeri from Iran.

People have never been very good about staying inside of geographical and political boundaries. They move about but like to maintain certain cultural and linguistic distinctions and identities. Some are more successful than others.

Some of these populations are moved against their will as captives, slaves, exiles or refugees. It is harder for them to maintain their cultural identities. I am reading a fascinating book about Creole languages written by a linguistics research who goes around the world looking for maroon villages. It is interesting to see what has survived from their original languages over the centuries.

http://www.amazon.com/Bastard-Tongues-T ... 0809028174

Very true. It would probably be more accurate to say that if you want to insult a Persian, call him or her an Arab. That's almost as bad as calling an Ozzie a Kiwi

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Hey, hey, hey... Home economics has a long proud tradition. So while most people think of Home Economics as sewing and baking, it's really much much more important in our history. Home Economics was a field founded by a woman, and the first students were smart progressive women. These women were the first trained community organizers. They were feminists. They learned consumer science, nutrition, social justice, gender equality, community sanitation, human development in social settings. Cornell at least now calls the field Human Ecology. It's an interesting field.



Ellen Swallow Richards, MIT's first female graduate and the first woman ever admitted to a school of science and technology, founded the field of home economics. Traditionally, science was chopped up into discipline silos and was very male oriented. Richards' view was more practical, using science to better daily lives through the home and the community. Her view was that women's work was valuable to the home and to the community.



So don't diss Home Economic graduates. Unless they're men.

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So there I was in 1970, on my first day of Home Ec class. I was excited! My mother was a Bachelor of Science in Home Economics from Cornell, the first class of the new College of Home Economics. My grandmother had a Masters from somewhere and taught home economics for many years. I was going to learn awesome things!

We learned to make cinnamon toast the first day. REALLY? In 7th grade, I was cooking for my entire family one night a week. We never progressed much further than casseroles. In Sewing we made a gingham apron. I had been making my own clothes for several years. My family had 6 sewing machines. In Child Care we learned to diaper babies. I was earning money as a babysitter already, making toys as gifts, and had some sort of baby-sitter certification from the Girl Scouts. BOOORing.

June 1972 and Title IX roll around. Dad reads about it in the paper. Lightbulb goes off. Shop Class! My parents traipsed down to the Board of Education, mentioned something about the ACLU, and the good sister and I were the first girls in PA to take shop in public schools. MUCH more useful over the years.

And here I've been eating fried squirrel with my fingers...

Since I'm late to the party, as usual, a ittle background on the silver collection please? Pattern age, inherited, actively collected, place settings? All the cool stuff.

My dad collects the mother-of-pearl handled stuff and one day we'll probably all be in court fighting over the freaking pickle forks. The two 4-piece serving sets I have given him are coming back to me though. My mom thinks the stuff is ugly and a PITA.

Ha ha, W4!

One of my friends talked me into signing up for home EC. We made jello first then when we were making cinnamon raisin bread. I asked if the raisins would be soaked first (didn't even suggest brandy rather than water ) - the teacher claimed she had never heard of soaking (plumping) raisins.

I told my counselor I would not return to that class and GET ME OUT OF THERE!

Yeah, I was already babysitting, starting dinner before Mom got home from work, sewing my own clothes and doing things they never thought of in home EC: Living on a farm (Daddy's hobby) we made cheese and yogurt, churned butter, had a garden, slaughtered chickens. etc.

I was the first at my HS to go only 1/2 day my senior year so that I could go to community college the other 1/2 day.

Ohhhh....home ec stories! Our assignment was to make a gathered skirt with a waistband and a zipper. Not even any pockets. I had no use nor desire for a gathered skirt with a waistband, so I made a princess seamed jumper with set-in rick rack trim, inset pockets, invisible zipper and machine applique on the patch pocket on the bib. I flunked that section because I didn't "follow directions." I had been making my own clothes for years by that point and was paying for my fabrics and supplies from my own money. I damn sure wasn't spending my own cash for something I had NO intention of wearing.

They moved me to shop class the next week.

During Dairy Strike of 1966 my dad bleached and sterilized the wringer washer. He then made butter in it. IT was delicious. We were eating that butter for years! It was kept frozen.