9/11 Conspiracy Theorists

obot 1024 · **Joined:** Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:25 pm **Posts:** 636

This is from a series of articles done by Slate's Jeremy Stahl on 9/11 Conspiracy Theories.

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The man who created the single most influential piece of propaganda about the 9/11 conspiracy is now ambivalent about the movement he helped make popular. "There's a certain thing called tact that you need when you're dealing with the public," says Dylan Avery, director of the film Loose Change, released in 2005 and since viewed tens of millions of times online. "And I think that is a certain approach that a lot of people lack."

Avery should know. He has been accused of being a traitor, a spy, or—slightly more charitably—just plain "sloppy." According to 9/11 conspiracy proponent Michael Ruppert, the movement has been hurt by its acceptance of some of the (relatively speaking) more absurd notions that were featured prominently in the early versions of Loose Change, notions that he says were planted as disinformation by those looking to discredit conspiracists. "That's one of many reasons why I completely cut myself off from the 9/11 Truth movement in 2004," Ruppert says. "They just swallowed too many poison pills."

http://www.slate.com/id/2302852/

A recurring theme among any conspiracy theorists (birther, truther, etc) is that they do not play well with others.

Check out the whole series (links are at top of article)

Foggy · **Posted:** Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:07 pm

!	Foggy wrote:
	Banned by IP, by username, and by email address. Just what we always needed, somebody to 'splain us that 9/11 was caused by the Joos.

bob · **Posted:** Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:14 pm

Joooooos!

(6 o's.)

Foggy · **Posted:** Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:22 pm

Some of my best friends are ... oh, never mind!! :lol:

Emma · **Joined:** Tue Aug 04, 2009 2:25 am **Posts:** 2877

You're the best, foogie. Even if you can't get anythign striagth.

kimba · **Joined:** Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:24 pm **Posts:** 6633

Alright, so what's your favorite 9/11 conspiracy theory? I have two,and it's been so long since I thought about them I probably have them wrong:

1. "The Cleveland Airport Mystery" that Flight 93 actually landed in Cleveland. Where those passengers disappeared to is not explained.

2. Pictures of one of the planes hitting the WTC, I think it was the second plane, show a mysterious tank under the fuselage. Many pictures, mostly blurred, and I can't see it.

MaineSkeptic · **Joined:** Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:48 pm **Posts:** 5295

kimba wrote:

Alright, so what's your favorite 9/11 conspiracy theory? I have two,and it's been so long since I thought about them I probably have them wrong:

1. "The Cleveland Airport Mystery" that Flight 93 actually landed in Cleveland. Where those passengers disappeared to is not explained.

2. Pictures of one of the planes hitting the WTC, I think it was the second plane, show a mysterious tank under the fuselage. Many pictures, mostly blurred, and I can't see it.

I always liked the one about how WTC 7, which wasn't struck by a plane, collapsed some time later, supposedly for unexplained reasons. But I haven't followed it closely enough to comment intelligently on it.

obot 1024 · **Joined:** Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:25 pm **Posts:** 636

kimba wrote:

Alright, so what's your favorite 9/11 conspiracy theory? I have two,and it's been so long since I thought about them I probably have them wrong:

1. "The Cleveland Airport Mystery" that Flight 93 actually landed in Cleveland. Where those passengers disappeared to is not explained.

2. Pictures of one of the planes hitting the WTC, I think it was the second plane, show a mysterious tank under the fuselage. Many pictures, mostly blurred, and I can't see it.

#1 sounds alot like part of the story from the novel Shibumi.

A Legal Lohengrin · **Joined:** Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:56 pm **Posts:** 9376

MaineSkeptic wrote:

I always liked the one about how WTC 7, which wasn't struck by a plane, collapsed some time later, supposedly for unexplained reasons. But I haven't followed it closely enough to comment intelligently on it.

That is one that was not sufficiently debunked for some time, but I believe the structural integrity of it was, in fact, subsequently shown to be compromised. I had considered it at least remotely possible, if not necessarily plausible, that the damage was such they chose to take it down and collect the insurance rather than try to rebuild.

kimba · **Joined:** Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:24 pm **Posts:** 6633

Quote:

WTC 7

The twin towers were supported by an inner core of columns and perimeter columns rather than the web column structure of most high rise buildings. This arrangement left the entire space from the core to the perimeter as open space, not broken up by periodic columns. Because they were the primary support, the perimeter columns were enormous. As the buildings collapsed, the perimeter columns and their fancy cladding broke off in huge chunks and fell ahead of the main building's collapse, you can see this pieces in the video of the collapse and in the pictures. WTC 7 and many other buildings in a radius around the twin towers were hit by the perimeter columns hunks. Unlike some of the smaller buildings in the same radius, WTC 7 caught fire and it was impossible to fight the fires. A couple of structural engineers proposed the WTC 7 may have collapsed because of the collapse of a single column.

http://www.structuremag.org/Archives/2007-11/SF-WTC7-Gilsanz-Nov07.pdf

BFB · **Posted:** Fri Sep 09, 2011 4:53 pm

Wasn't there also something about a missile being fired from one of the planes right before it hit?

bob · **Posted:** Fri Sep 09, 2011 4:56 pm

Someone (claiming to have a physics degree) on a board insisted that it was impossible for aluminum to cut through steel. Ergo, no planes.

Welsh Dragon · **Posted:** Fri Sep 09, 2011 5:01 pm

My favourite (if that's the right word) is that the Pentagon wasn't hit by AA77 at all but by a cruise missle!

Hektor · **Posted:** Fri Sep 09, 2011 5:38 pm

My "favourite" is that Nostradamus predicted 9/11. I find it hilarious for several reasons, one of which was the fake quatrain in question was created by someone who claimed that Nostradamus was a crock and anyone could do what he did and people would fit the facts to the quatrain as time passed.

Epectitus · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:55 pm **Posts:** 2358

Falsehoods unchallenged only fester and grow.

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