Enhanced it a little.

The police has just announced that they will ask the court to hold the hearing tomorrow behind closed doors. They don't want him to spread his garbage in front of the world press, It's up to the court to close the doors, but the hearing will be in front of an experienced judge, so it's a fair chance that the doors will be closed.

These kind of preliminary hearings generally generate little public interest and there is less of a public interest in allowing pretrial publicity at this phase. In Norway, as in most Western countries, the general policy preference is that trials themselves are public. Clearly, this is a trial that will require some serious security, but I don't know how they'll handle it. This is somewhat unprecedented.

mashable:

Oslo Bombing Video Is a Facebook Scam, Infecting 1 User Per Second [WARNING]



more:
http://mashable.com/2011/07/23/oslo-bombing-video-scam/

This might be a hint of what is to come in the right wing nut jobs' spin on Andres Breivik. It is a twisted telling of the story of Martin Bryant of Australia, who had held the record for most persons killed in a single killing spree.

FREE MARTIN BRYANT is from the racist Australian web site White Australia. Their slogan is

Martin Bryant is depicted as incapable of having performed these killings. It was some external force, "they."

It may be only slightly inconvenient for the spinning of this tale that Breivik wrote about his intentions and is reported to be speaking freely about his crimes. After all, it is the MSM reporting all this.

Well, perhaps, in addition to having pulled the trigger, Breivik was "in on it."

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In all seriousness, my worldview is a bit awhirl this weekend, between the debt ceiling standoff, birthers in general and the nadir "summit" in particular, and Norway... These "theories", the RW spin, the paranoia... One may be forgiven for wondering where we're headed, and how fast.

/negativism

I'm feeling pretty negative, too. It seems that there is not much good going on with the world right now. That came home tonight when I encountered a local version of JT8's homeless man with loving dog. I think such plights are not all that uncommon.

Given my nearly fanatical devotion to free speech, I am somewhat shaken. At what point are people's ravings so disconnected from reality as to represent actual insanity and justify locking them up as a menace to society? We clearly set the bar too low, if scum like this is allowed to walk around, pretend to be a member of democracy, and at the same time, plot mass murder and terrorism.

There is nothing in this POS's manifesto that I have not read, over and over, on the sick and diseased blogs of RWNJs.

It makes me sick to my stomach, how familiar it all is.

Oh yes - you poor persecuted male middle-aged Anglo-Saxon Australians, what with our economy being one of the strongest in the world, high average wages, good health care, good accessible eduction... Yes, the once great nation of Australia really is being destroyed...

I was living in Hobart, the capital of Tasmania, when Bryant went on his spree at Port Arthur. I sat on the Eastern Shore of the river, unable to get home because they had closed the bridge to traffic other than emergency services. I saw the helicopters landing at the Domain, ferrying the wounded to Royal Hobart Hospital. I heard the stories from my mother, who worked at the hospital, from the doctors who had to work on both the victims, and Bryant. Bryant drove to Port Arthur is a car he brought from my best friend's aunt. I saw him in a nightclub at the Casino one week before the massacre. He murdered the aunt and uncle of my hockey coach. Every single person in Hobart would have the same or worse connections to Port Arthur as I do.

Bryant had no real world view, as far as I can tell. He was mentally ill, intellectually disabled, and should never had access to the weapons he did. It was never a left or right or religious driver for his behaviour - he wanted attention, and that was the best way that he could think of to get attention. Until this White Power article, I've not heard of anyone even remotely bringing up a theory that he was not culpable. It is, of course, completely ridiculous, and speaks solely to a mindset of victimisation that these racist fools have in their head.

I continue to be shocked and sickened at how many of the RWNJs are actually saying basically: gee, what he did was wrong, but I do see where he was coming from.

Like ILoveSarah2012, freeper:

And dozens of nauseating etceteras.

San Jose Mercury News

Pamela Geller, Extraordinary deception, Atlas Shrugs, July 24, 2011

My irony meter is exploding as arseholes like Geller and Malkin protest that the actions of one lone "extremist" (not a terrorist - wrong skin colour) shouldn't be used to hold all of those on the far-right to account.

The more of the reaction of America's RWNJ's that I see, the more intent I become on doing my part to render them irrelevant to the national political debate. It would greatly help if solid conservatives were to fight alongside us.

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I call that the [highlight]FDR fallacy[/highlight]. It is a common theme among right-wingers that the Democrats, well, the leftists of course, are responsible for every war the USA ever got involved in (the leftists being Wilson, FDR, Kennedy and Bill Clinton). This is starting to be an international meme. One French commenter at the blog of le Figaro recently claimed that French leftists were in power every time France got into war during the last ... 150 years. So, add Napoleon III, Raymond Poincaré, Albert Lebrun, Charles de Gaulle (Vietnam), René Coty (Algeria - actually Coty was a right-winger who collaborated with Vichy during WWII) and of course, Nicolas Sarkozy (Libya) to the list of left-wingers who start wars, in order to get more foreign immigration because out of pity we will have to settle all the refugees and recalcitrants we created during the war. Because obviously the Japanese attacked in 1941, you have to claim that FDR knew about it, but did nothing to stop it, because he secretly wanted to involve the USA on the side of the decadent British Empire and the marxist Soviet Union in their at that moment losing fight against the noble European civilization led by the prophetic polical thinkers Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini.

(silly passage about Port Arthur and 1905 Japanese attack deleted - did not notice the guy was on about Port Arthur in Australia)

Basically, the RWNJ have it all backwards. FDR won the war with Japan, because not only was the United States a great country with lots of resources, but it was a democracy - there was not going to be a national strike against a South Pacific campaign, and no middle-class gentlemen and ladies were going to massively gather in whatever dress before the Lincoln monument in support of navy hands who did not want to transfer from the Atlantic to the Pacific.

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I do wonder however how soon the FDR fallacy is going to be used to explain away our [highlight]Norwegian John Galt[/highlight]. After all, it is clear now that he has been preparing his killing spree for many years. Surely, the police should have discovered his plans - surely everyone who writes like that on Pam Gellar's site is under permanent watch by the marxist/muslim/nazi/feminist Norwegian police?

I would not attach too much attention to the RWNJ that the profile of this Norwegian John Galt is full of contradictions and that the whole story is too good to be true for left-wingers:

1) The time stamp on the documents he posted should not be compared to the time of the explosion of the bomb in central Oslo, because that could have been a time device. Though of course, the police are going to be very interested in the IPs of those last edits, since it might be indicative of someone helping him behind the scenes.

2) The pro-gay and pro-Israel stance should be no surprise and is not in contradiction with his RWNJ views when you realize that the guy is a great fan of Geert Wilders.

3) The membership of a masonic lodge was mentioned by French politician Marine Le Pen as proof that the guy is not a right-winger. In some Roman Catholic countries, including France, the RC church at one time considered the Free Masons its fiercest enemy. Small wonder that in such countries, the Free Masons became a sort of anti-Catholic counterpower, where left-wing socialists and right-wing liberals could come together to discus possible alliances. In Britain and Scandinavia, the dominant protestant churches never condemned mmbership of a lodge. The particular lodge that our RWNJ hero joined, actually required membership of a church and looks a bit right-wing. In Britain, it is a "public secret" that 90% of all police men are members of a lodge. If this is also the case in Norway, he may have joined to speedy his gun applications - in any case, a lodge is an ideal place to meet people active in high places. In other ways, his FM membership proves nothing and may be part of the scam he was setting up.

4) His owning an "ecological" farm does not mean that he is "green" either. Well, he could be green, as in "green pro-natural method and pro-pure race geneticist". But it is clear from his manifest that he used the farm as a subterfuge to get the material for making bombs. In Europe nowadays, you cannot farm without a permit . And permits are easier to get for a town dweller who has never farmed before if you say you are going to farm the green way.

Our Norwegian John Galt is still a racist terrorist with extreme-right political views and fundamentalist Christian beliefs.

Who gets to define "higher state of civilization" these days? No good purpose is served by making such a statement, and it degrades the quality of debate.

Yes, Norway is no member of the European Union. It is however a member of the European Economic Area - such countries can and very often do implement EU decisions simply to not needlessly complicate European trade - those rules are then called EU acquis (new members of EU MUST have implemented them). This list of acquis looks interesting in the agricultural sphere:
http://www.efta.int/legal-texts/~/media ... _list.ashx

To be fair, this is a list of what they proclaimed non-relevant:
http://www.efta.int/legal-texts/~/media ... -list.ashx

Members of EFTA can join a lot of European programs and schemes, like Schengen (only Liechtenstein has not fully joined) and Erasmus (we had Norwegain students two years ago), while at the same time making trade and other agreements with countries outside the EEA and trying to "convert" them (Russia and Algeria are EFTA candidates, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Kazakhstan, Belarus and perhaps even India may still be, not sure).

In Belgium, you may not need a permit to "farm" but you definitely need one if you will produce natural waste. Now try to keep an animal without producing natural waste.

As I said, the guy could be a real green nazi (they do exist) but I think he almost certainly made it ecological to get certain things done faster without arousing suspicion. One source I found claimed he bought the fertilizer (which he did not use on his land, his neighbours claiming he never dunged his land) from a fellow farmer with a surplus, and not from a specialized tradesman - perhaps he was indeed afraid that his permit or certificate was too new NOT to arouse suspicion. The whole farm was a scam.

A few bits more info:

He considers himself to be a Knight Templar. If you remember your history the Knights Templar were Christian knights who crusaded against "the infidel". That funny waiter uniform we have seen him in is a modified US Marine corps dress jacket with Templar gear.

One of the people killed in the step-brother of Crown Princess Mette-Marit.

He says he knew his actions were wrong, but were "necessary due to the treason of those around him". Chilling since I read that virtually every day at Dr. Kate's.

The mass murderer wanted to be arraigned in a military uniform. Which was denied by the presiding judge.

Sound familiar?

The only difference being that our hatriots are too lazy and cowardice to get out of their Lazy Boys and carry out their crazy plans.

Which, if true in all cases (but there's always one really crazy) is a good thing.

According to Belgian TV, he did come under the radar of the Norwegian secret police when he bought fertilizer in [highlight]Poland[/highlight]. They "cleared " him after it was decided that the amount was not enough to make a bomb.

So, now secret services will have to store data on smaller acquisitions as well - and try to stop farmers with surpluses of selling them outside the normal channels.

Stern, he also wanted a public hearing to explain his motives to the whole world. Also denied by the judge.