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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2011 12:16 pm 
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There's a direct link to the CNN poll with that astonishing finding at viewtopic.php?f=55&t=5620&start=25#p230292.

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In these here parts we never forgets the War of Northern Aggression. My boys and I visited Fort Sumter last October, as part of our weekend living on the Yorktown.

Why, within a month of moving here, I saw a dude at Home Depot with a Confederate flag t-shirt bearing the legend "These colors never run!"





Sadly, the t-shirt was badly faded because the colors had all run ... ?(


It was probably made in China. ;)

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In these here parts we never forgets the War of Northern Aggression. My boys and I visited Fort Sumter last October, as part of our weekend living on the Yorktown.

Why, within a month of moving here, I saw a dude at Home Depot with a Confederate flag t-shirt bearing the legend "These colors never run!"


You go to some parts of southern NJ and you'll see more Confederate flags than US flags.


Sadly, the t-shirt was badly faded because the colors had all run ... ?(

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Friend of mine passed on this very interesting set of articles on the Sovereign Citizen movement. It's from the Memphis, Tennessee Commercial Appeal, 17 April 2011

http://www.commercialappeal.com/sovereign-nation/

Of note, the interactive map here:

http://www.commercialappeal.com/sovereign-nation/map/

And if you click on a certain red marker in Tennessee, you get:

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Walter Fitzpatrick, a retired naval officer, was arrested for trying to conduct a citizen's arrest of a grand jury foreman in Monroe County. Apparently the jury foreman had refused to convene a grand jury to indict President Barack Obama for treason. After Fitzpatrick was arrested, a man named Carl Swennson from Georgia asked for volunteers to go to the Monroe County jail, release Fitzpatrick and make citizens arrests. A third man named Darren Huff, also from Georgia, was taken into custody when he told police he had an AK-47. Huff is a militia member and a member of an extremist group called the Oath Keepers."

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Tomorrow, April 19, is a date of significance to conspiracy theorists and Sovereign Citizens, a "heavy day in history." April 20 also carries significance for these people.

  • Bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City on April 19.
  • End of the siege of the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas on April 19.
  • First shots fired at the battles of Lexington and Concord on April 19.
  • Nazi soldiers raided the Warsaw ghetto on April 19.
  • April 19 sometimes said to be the original date planned for the Columbine massacre of April 20.
  • Hitler's birthday on April 20.
  • BP explosion in the Gulf of Mexico on April 20.

From Discovery News of April 19, 2010 (link above):
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With such apparent rising discontent brewing in the country, should we brace for more violence? Perhaps it's better, instead, to celebrate all those other -- nonviolent -- April 19's in history. After all, they far outnumber the violent ones.

Here's to a quiet day.

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Open Letter to Agents of the Crown

Agents of the Crown = Licensed Attorneys who are members of the Bar, which makes them not be Americans according to the original 13th Amendment.

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Open Letter to Agents of the Crown

Agents of the Crown = Licensed Attorneys who are members of the Bar, which makes them not be Americans according to the original 13th Amendment.


Yet another example of the bizarre and delusional fantasies of weirdoes. Not only is "esquire" not a title of nobility, it is a title that originated as a title anyone could use. If these assclowns are correct, which they aren't, anyone using the honorific "Mr." in front of their names is similarly not entitled to public office, since that was an equal or nearly equal title of "nobility."

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You are all in breach of the Covenant, in breach of the Trust, in breach of the Contract. In your souls and in commerce, you are in dishonor. Your rights are forfeit and your property is forfeit -- trust or no trust.


And all your bases are belong to us.

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I think this dipshit had a bad exprience or two with lawyers. Many of these buffoons learn the hard way in family court that acting like assholes loses them custody of their children and gets them jail time when they don't pay alimony.

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I think this dipshit had a bad exprience or two with lawyers. Many of these buffoons learn the hard way in family court that acting like assholes loses them custody of their children and gets them jail time when they don't pay alimony.


And lawyers make money either way.

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So?

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So?


Just mentioning it. Somebody has to represent accused scumbags.

I was on a jury a couple of weeks ago for an awful case. The defendant had a pretty good lawyer who did his best. I wondered how, day in and day out, the court personnel and the lawyers can hear that stuff and still defend/prosecute/judge/suck eggs/bailiff/ with an open mind. I couldn't do any of their jobs.

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Remember Jerry Kane and his son, Joe, who murdered those police officers? (idunno if we talked about that here or at PJ?)

The widow is suing. She wants gold.

Sovereign Citizen's Widow Sues Police For Gold Over Husband's Shootout Death
Jillian Rayfield | April 26, 2011, 8:40AM

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A Florida woman is suing the police department in West Memphis, Arkansas for the deaths of her husband and stepson, who were killed in a shootout after opening fire on two police officers last year.

Donna Lee Wray-Kane filed a lawsuit in Florida District Court over what she calls "torture killings and civil rights violations," and is asking for damages of at least $75,000 each for the deaths of her husband and stepson -- to be paid in gold "at $38 per troy ounce," according to the complaint.


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Wray-Kane is suing on three counts, for "violations of due process," "arbitrary arrest and detention," and "torture killings." District Judge Richard A. Lazzara called the complaint "nothing more than a nonsensical recitation of various state and federal constitutional articles and amendments, federal statutory laws, and international treaties," the Associated Press reports. He also noted that police departments aren't legal entities and therefore cannot be sued.

The complaint cites everything from the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution, to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, to the Convention Against Torture, to the UN's charter. And, even more oddly, it cites Article I, section 8, clause 10 of the Constitution, which gives Congress the power to "define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations."


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http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.c ... d_over.php

The complaint (PDF) via Quantloos:
http://www.box.net/shared/static/c3fvj3ftgx.pdf



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According to the pdf of the complaints (thanks), Donna Lee Wray-Kane of Clearwater, Fla., has filed this lawsuit in the US District Court for the Middle District of FLORIDA. But all the defendants live in or near West Memphis, Ark. Considering that most of them have absolutely no contact with Florida, and that she's suing (by her own account) more than 200 people, some of them unknown, it would appear that a Florida court is a forum non conveniens and she will have to re-file in a court in Arkansas. And perhaps not a federal court since there has to be complete diversity of citizenship between the two sides and it's possible that at least one of those unknown 200 John Does is a Florida resident.


http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtop ... =37&t=7149


I guess they'll just throw it out. :-?


I saw a YouTube from a crazy guy who is still saying Kanes were set up. Even with the video showing them coming out of that van shooting, there will be people who say it's a cover-up. That federal snipers killed those cops.

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In the days immediately following this event there was an interview with this woman. It was very clear that she was of the same mindset as was her husband. She also did not seem to be grieving. I wonder if Sovereign Citizens more or less expect to be sentenced to prison or be killed by law enforcement? Cordwood is making noises very much like that now.

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Crikey - I'd love to be able to win a settlement in gold where I got to set the value of the gold, wouldn't you? At $38 per troy ounce, she'd end up with $3,000,000 worth of gold for each of her $75,000 "claims".

If she wins in court, I may have to find myself a Sovereign Citizen (or two) who's willing to make the ultimate sacrifice for me.

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Didn't Ford figure out each life was worth about $235,000.00 when they weighed the benefit versus cost of fixing the "Firebomb Pinto". I would say that even today 3 mil for a couple of folks born to hang is a bit steep.

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Wray-Kane is suing on three counts, for "violations of due process," "arbitrary arrest and detention," and "torture killings." [highlight]District Judge Richard A. Lazzara[/highlight] called the complaint "nothing more than a nonsensical recitation of various state and federal constitutional articles and amendments, federal statutory laws, and international treaties," the Associated Press reports. He also noted that police departments aren't legal entities and therefore cannot be sued.

The complaint cites everything from the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution, to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, to the Convention Against Torture, to the UN's charter. And, even more oddly, it cites Article I, section 8, clause 10 of the Constitution, which gives Congress the power to "define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations."


I doubt Judge Lazzara will put up with it for long. He booted Cook v Simtech in about 24 hours. :lol:

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Wray-Kane is suing on three counts, for "violations of due process," "arbitrary arrest and detention," and "torture killings." [highlight]District Judge Richard A. Lazzara[/highlight] called the complaint "nothing more than a nonsensical recitation of various state and federal constitutional articles and amendments, federal statutory laws, and international treaties," the Associated Press reports. He also noted that police departments aren't legal entities and therefore cannot be sued.

The complaint cites everything from the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution, to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, to the Convention Against Torture, to the UN's charter. And, even more oddly, it cites Article I, section 8, clause 10 of the Constitution, which gives Congress the power to "define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations."


I doubt Judge Lazzara will put up with it for long. He booted Cook v Simtech in about 24 hours. :lol:


Shit, I thought y'all were talking about the latest "article" up at the Pest and Efail!

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60 Minutes will have a segment tonight (May 15, 2011, 7:00PM EDT) on Sovereign Citizens. The Kanes will be featured.

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60 Minutes will have a segment tonight (May 15, 2011, 7:00PM EDT) on Sovereign Citizens. The Kanes will be featured.


I saw that segment is posted online now, but I haven't watched it yet.


Meanwhile....


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Sovereign Citizen Apologizes After Trillion-Dollar 'Paper Terrorism' Scheme
Jillian Rayfield | May 16, 2011, 12:17PM



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A sovereign citizen in upstate New York apologized for harassing government officials with "paper terrorism," which resulted in a sentence of 21 months in federal prison for mail fraud.

Ed Parenteau was sentenced last week and ordered to pay about $8,000 to Ulster County, after he, along with two other sovereign citizens, was convicted of mail fraud after filing fake indictments and sending fake bills, totaling $1.24 trillion, to government officials. "I have learned my lesson and I will never do anything like this again," he told District Judge Thomas McAvoy Friday.



They did the whole lien thing against cops, a justice, and a prosecutor. Of course they held a 'trial' and found them guilty first. No word whether it was in a Denny's backroom or not.

They learned from Tim Turner.

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Parenteau claims he learned how to falsify legal documents at a seminar taught by sovereign citizen guru Tim Turner, who charges people for courses about the movement. "I'll tell people not to get involved with this guy because he's trouble," Parenteau said in his apology, the Albany Times-Union reports.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.c ... dollar.php

We posted about Parenteau last July. He had a haircut like Moe. Or did in the photo.

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Christ, that guy looks like someone who got rejected as an extra for Deliverance for being too creepy and inbred looking.

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Another arrest. Nothing big, but do you think it indicates the movement is growing?

I guess he'll have just a small fine?

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Sovereign Citizen Resists Traffic Stop Arrest As A 'Free Citizen On A Free Highway'
Jillian Rayfield | May 18, 2011, 11:05AM


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Jones locked his doors and barely cracked open his window and refused to identify himself. He told Simmons he was a "free citizen on a free highway" and provided different names. The trooper asked for identification at least 10 times.

Jones also said he did not have to provide a driver's license, and only got out of the car when Simmons threatened to arrest him and break the car window. Jones struggled when Simmons tried to handcuff him. He was later charged with "resisting arrest, obstruction of justice with force, driving without a license, having an expired inspection sticker and defective equipment," Staunton's News-Leader reports.

Simmons said he found documents relating to the sovereign citizens movement and their activities in the trunk of the car, as well as a Geiger counter, according to the News-Leader.


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"Kelly claimed to be a "sovereign citizen," telling deputies he does not have to follow the law or obey law enforcement officers, deputies said. Also found in the truck was the book "The Sociopath Next Door."

According to a 2010 FBI briefing paper: "Sovereign citizens are anti-government extremists who believe that even though they physically reside in this country, they are separate or 'sovereign' from the United States. As a result, they believe they don't have to answer to any government authority, including courts, taxing entities, motor vehicle departments or law enforcement."

Kelly initially was booked on charges of fleeing police, aggravated assault and weapons violations and was given a $32,000 bond. Kelly posted the bond Monday morning and was released, but he was rearrested that afternoon on new charges of firing at a building, firing from a vehicle and criminal mischief."


'Sovereign Citizen' Opens Fire On Store Because It Ran Out Of Crawfish

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"42 year-old Larry Wayne Kelly allegedly fired upon the L&T Seafood Market with an AK-47 from the window of his pickup truck, after he was told they had sold out of crawfish on Sunday."


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According to the Sheriffs Department, four loaded guns were found in Kelly's car, including a 12-gauge shotgun, a pistol, and a revolver. The book "The Sociopath Next Door" was also found. Kelly told law enforcement that he is a sovereign citizen (someone who believes that almost all forms of government in the U.S. are illegitimate), and that he doesn't have to follow the law."

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Is it just me, or do there seem to be more and more stories about Sovereign Citizens?

the pic that goes with the article posted by Pat:

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You gotta figure out who is who though.

Then I had to go to Amazon to see what "The Sociopath Next Door" had to do with this stuff. :-? Why did he have that book with him?

http://www.amazon.com/Sociopath-Next-Do ... 076791581X

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Then I had to go to Amazon to see what "The Sociopath Next Door" had to do with this stuff. :-? Why did he have that book with him?

http://www.amazon.com/Sociopath-Next-Do ... 076791581X


Just being polite, his neighbor wrote it after all...

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