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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 12:34 pm 
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HuffPo is reporting that Seymour Hersh will say in a forthcoming book that some high-ranking members of the Joint Special Operations Command, including its former head Gen. Stanley McChrystal, are "Crusaders" who want to turn mosques into cathedrals. This is based upon a report by a unnamed writer for Foreign Policy, who supposedly took notes from a speech that Hersh supposedly gave in Doha (UAE) at the Doha Branch of Georgetown University's School of Foreign Service. Hersh points to Opus Dei and the Knights of Malta, the first a Catholic organization and the second a historically Catholic organization, in conjunction with this claim, saying that the "Crusaders" are members of one or both of these organizations.
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"What I'm really talking about is how eight or nine neoconservative, radicals if you will, overthrew the American government. Took it over," Hersh said.

Charles Lane, writing for the Washington Post, does not think much of Hersh's latest claim:
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You would have thought these covert warriors would have tried to keep some Christians around to attend mass in their newly converted houses of worship. But apparently their crusade has been a failure. Or maybe it's all just a part of the cover-up.

At least Hersh has switched targets from the days when he was blaming "Jewish money from New York" for inducing Hillary Clinton to support a U.S. war with Iran.

I sure hope Hersh's editor at The New Yorker, David Remnick, is doing a careful cost-benefit analysis of the decreasingly lucid Hersh's impact on his magazine's reputation.

Edit: ETA: There is an article in Foreign Policy by Blake Hounshell in which a report of this speech appears, and it is consistent with the HuffPo report.
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DOHA, Qatar—David Remnick, call your office.

In a speech billed as a discussion of the Bush and Obama eras, New Yorker journalist Seymour Hersh delivered a rambling, conspiracy-laden diatribe here Monday expressing his disappointment with President Barack Obama and his dissatisfaction with the direction of U.S. foreign policy.

"Just when we needed an angry black man," he began, his arm perched jauntily on the podium, "we didn't get one."

It quickly went downhill from there.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 1:39 pm 
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I really don't put much stock in anything Hersh says these days.

The only thing I noticed when I was on active duty is that the military chaplain's core has been over-run by crazy Evangelicals. I stopped going to services while in country, because I couldn't stand our Chaplain. He was prone to show the goofy videos from Christian Evangelicals that claimed it was the duty of all Christians to protect Israel.

A.) That's completely off-topic as to our mission in Afghanistan.
B.) The implied message is frightening.

For those interested, this is well documented in a little known, but excellent, book: The New American Militarism by Andew Bacevich.

As for the flag officers? I highly doubt this. Actions like this would be completely detrimental to our mission. Attacking Islam in country is the most idiotic thing we could do and Mosques are "off limits". We wouldn't even touch Korans in houses we went into.

Even it it were true, this is why we have a civilian chain of command. MacChrystal had to go, but I've been impressed that he's been a professional after he was relieved (not becoming a right wing darling to the detriment of the mission). I don't see the point in another Hersh hatchet job.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2011 2:33 pm 
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Old Grunt wrote:
I really don't put much stock in anything Hersh says these days.
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Even it it were true, this is why we have a civilian chain of command. MacChrystal had to go, but I've been impressed that he's been a professional after he was relieved (not becoming a right wing darling to the detriment of the mission). I don't see the point in another Hersh hatchet job.

What you say (in the section that I elided to conserve bits and bytes) makes more sense to me than what Hersh wrote. He may have been reading too much Dan Brown. The next step would have been to discern Vatican involvement. Or the Illuminati. Or Hersh may just be an aging conspiracy theorist of the left. Because I've been the target of two of them, I know they do exist.

It is interesting that most of the comments on Hounshell's piece are critical of Hounshell. One way to summarize a few of them would be "How dare this young whippersnapper of a 'reporter' dare to question the great Seymour Hersh?" Hounshell was writing from a recording, which ought to provide him some proof of what Hersh said. The recording may be of really poor quality, in that Hounshell has added a note:
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*Note: Listening to the recording a second time, I believe Hersh said "whackos," not "radicals."

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HuffPo is reporting that Seymour Hersh will say in a forthcoming book that some high-ranking members of the Joint Special Operations Command, including its former head Gen. Stanley McChrystal, are "Crusaders" who want to turn mosques into cathedrals.

Speaking of McChrystal: McChrystal to oversee White House initiative
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Nearly a year after President Barack Obama fired Gen. Stanley McChrystal as his top commander in Afghanistan, the White House has asked him to head a new advisory board to support military families.

The three-person panel will oversee the Joining Forces program, an initiative led by Michelle Obama and Jill Biden, wife of Vice President Joe Biden. The effort will focus on mobilizing communities, businesses and the government to assist the families of those serving their country.

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McChrystal resigned in June after he and his aides were dismissive of their civilian bosses in a Rolling Stone magazine article. McChrystal was quoted as calling the period in 2009 when the president was deciding whether to send more troops to Afghanistan "painful" and said the president appeared ready to hand him an "unsellable" position.

McChrystal retired from the Army a month later, with the White House allowing him to keep his status as a four-star general. Since then, the 56-year-old McChrystal has been teaching at Yale University.

Recall McChystral was a birther hero for about a week.

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Seymour Hersh is still alive?? Huh.

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Seymour Hersh is still alive?? Huh.

No. His estate licensed out his name.

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BFB wrote:
Seymour Hersh is still alive?? Huh.

No. His estate licensed out his name.

Somebody needs to pass on the news to Mr. Hersh. He is probably owed a lot of money.

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Sterngard Friegen wrote:
BFB wrote:
Seymour Hersh is still alive?? Huh.

No. His estate licensed out his name.


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