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Before Sandy Hook, 9/11, the hoax moon landings and the JFK assassination, there was a Titanic Konspiracy. Specifically, the White Star Lines ship Titanic was deliberately sunk.

I've not watched this video, but it's apparently making the rounds of various conspiracy-minded people.



Conclusion: you can make a conspiracy out of anything. Including, I'm sure, mayonnaise.

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You know, I know a conspiracy theory about Mayonnaise. But I don’t want to talk about it. If Orly hears about it she’ll blame that on Obama too.

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You know, I know a conspiracy theory about Mayonnaise. But I don’t want to talk about it. If Orly hears about it she’ll blame that on Obama too.


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You know, I know a conspiracy theory about Mayonnaise. But I don’t want to talk about it. If Orly hears about it she’ll blame that on Obama too.

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You know, I know a conspiracy theory about Mayonnaise. But I don’t want to talk about it. If Orly hears about it she’ll blame that on Obama too.

I've heard the same. Only my version involves hot dogs.

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Daisy's home?! :hug: yay! Regale us!

My dad was in on the great mayo conspiracy, but he misdirected us with the eggs thing. If a jar of mayo sat for more than a minute on the counter after someone finished using it he'd chuck it in the trash. We always had a mayo hoard in our pantry. :roll:

Are you sure about the onions, Tollie? Back in the day, I heard it was the olive oil, into which Mussolini ordered each manufacturer to insert the desire for trains to run on time. These days, though, it's a craving for pasta fagioli.

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Are you sure about the onions, Tollie? ...

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The Mayo Konspiracy goes deeper then you think. It has nothing to do with eggs or onions...


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I believe Tol is right...it is the onions. As for mayo sitting around, I have a confession. For the first time in ten years, I have a fridge, and this is the first time I have put the mayo in it. Yup. That's right. YEARS of using mayo and not having a fridge and I haven't croaked one time. That said, it is possible I am so pickled by other consumable items that it is impossible to get sick. -xx

...wait...is this off topic?

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Conclusion: you can make a conspiracy out of anything. Including, I'm sure, mayonnaise.


http://www.christianmanga.com/smf/index ... 090.0;wap2

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"I've got me a little Conspiracy Theory here that I like to call "Sauce of Evil" or "Why I Think Mayonnaise is Part of an Insidious Plot to Take Over the World." Before you start to think I've lost my mind, please follow my line of reasoning. For a long time, I've been a despiser of this repugnant, accursed condiment because it has neutralized the flavors of many a hearty sandwich. Whenever I go to Wendy's I ask them NOT to put mayonnaise on my chicken club sandwich, but each time they get the order wrong and end up ruining the meal. How can the capitalist food service industry, the one that proudly preaches "Have it Your Way," not deliver up on their long-touted promise? This, I believe is the result of dark and demonic work. Don't believe me yet? I've dug up some pretty darn good evidence to support my theory.

First, let's look at the brand names of mayonnaise. Most of them have generic, seemingly harmless brand names such as "Kraft", "Duke's", or, if you're in Japan, "Kewpie." But then there's another brand, one which incites my suspicion: "Hellmann's."

Most people are mistaken about Hellmann's. They think it's a name, but it's actually a pseudonym. If one carefully analyzes the word, he can see that it is made up of two preexisting words: Hell and Man. The second "n" is put in there to throw you off. The brand name literally means "Hell Man." Who is the Hell Man? Satan!

And as we all know, Satan is evil, and he uses ANYTHING and EVERYTHING to destroy. Because of this known fact, and because of the devil's association with this mayonnaise, IT IS POSSIBLE THAT HE IS RIGHT NOW USING THIS AS A DEVICE FOR MIND CONTROL."


Granted, it's a joke, but still....

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But if you don't refrigerate your jars of mayonnaise, how difficult is is to sit and peel off the label if it's not sweaty? Didn't you have to win the wish-bone pull in order to win the right to peel the mayonnaise jar?

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Jesse Ventura has unearthed a government conspiracy that dwarfs even the Mayonnaise and Bounel/Robinson conspiracies. It confirms the Orly's worst fears: Connecticut is at the heart of it all. Damned Connecticut :twisted:


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And we would have got away with it too if it wasn't for those damn wrestlers and their steroid induced clarity of vision.

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mmmirele wrote:
Conclusion: you can make a conspiracy out of anything. Including, I'm sure, mayonnaise.


http://www.christianmanga.com/smf/index ... 090.0;wap2

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"I've got me a little Conspiracy Theory here that I like to call "Sauce of Evil" or "Why I Think Mayonnaise is Part of an Insidious Plot to Take Over the World." Before you start to think I've lost my mind, please follow my line of reasoning. For a long time, I've been a despiser of this repugnant, accursed condiment because it has neutralized the flavors of many a hearty sandwich. Whenever I go to Wendy's I ask them NOT to put mayonnaise on my chicken club sandwich, but each time they get the order wrong and end up ruining the meal. How can the capitalist food service industry, the one that proudly preaches "Have it Your Way," not deliver up on their long-touted promise? This, I believe is the result of dark and demonic work. Don't believe me yet? I've dug up some pretty darn good evidence to support my theory.

First, let's look at the brand names of mayonnaise. Most of them have generic, seemingly harmless brand names such as "Kraft", "Duke's", or, if you're in Japan, "Kewpie." But then there's another brand, one which incites my suspicion: "Hellmann's."

Most people are mistaken about Hellmann's. They think it's a name, but it's actually a pseudonym. If one carefully analyzes the word, he can see that it is made up of two preexisting words: Hell and Man. The second "n" is put in there to throw you off. The brand name literally means "Hell Man." Who is the Hell Man? Satan!

And as we all know, Satan is evil, and he uses ANYTHING and EVERYTHING to destroy. Because of this known fact, and because of the devil's association with this mayonnaise, IT IS POSSIBLE THAT HE IS RIGHT NOW USING THIS AS A DEVICE FOR MIND CONTROL."


Granted, it's a joke, but still....


Ah, but it's only Hellmann's in the east. In the glorious states of the west, like California, Washington, and Oregon, it is Best Foods. I see angels and unicorns just typing that name.


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Damn, so now I spent several hours viewing and reviewing video on this old Titanic conspiracy. I've long been amongst those fascinated by the whole Titanic story but had never heard of this conspiracy.

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Damn, so now I spent several hours viewing and reviewing video on this old Titanic conspiracy. I've long been amongst those fascinated by the whole Titanic story but had never heard of this conspiracy.


Was mayonnaise involved in any way? :)

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Damn, so now I spent several hours viewing and reviewing video on this old Titanic conspiracy. I've long been amongst those fascinated by the whole Titanic story but had never heard of this conspiracy.


Was mayonnaise involved in any way? :)

No, silly. Miracle Whip!
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Since White Star Line made a net loss after the sinking - the insurance money nowhere near covered the resulting costs and claims - what was their supposed motive for the sinking? I'm a bit you-tube challenged at the moment.

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Basically, Olympic was severely damaged when it collided with a Warship. The naval investigation found Olympic at fault (surprise!) So the insurance didn't pay out. The conspiracy is that to save money on the huge amount of repair work, White Star swapped the almost complete Titanic with Olympic to get "Olympic" back earning money, and then patched up "Titanic" and sank her on her maiden voyage to avoid the huge costs of repairing her.

The thing is, I could see them swapping the ships to get money flowing back in and to spend more time getting the Olympic hull back into operation, but there is no way on Gods earth that they would have sunk Titanic. Titanic meant a hell of a lot more than just a ship. When Titanic sailed, the home rule bill for Ireland was being debated, and Harland and wolf employed only Protestants in its shipyard. Titanic was meant as a shining symbol of Protestant industrialism verses Catholic lazyness, and its voyage was being touted as a potent symbol of the Union between Ireland and England. When it sank, it was a deep shock to Northern Ireland.

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Ah, cheers, Suranis. A non starter, given the obvious and visible differences between the two ships!

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Part of what helps the conspiracy theorists believe and push their theory is that there weren't a lot of pictures of the Titanic taken and there were apparently a lot of times when pictures of the nearly identical sister ship Olympic were used to illustrate stories about Titanic. Also, when the Olympic was in drydock several times, there were upgrades that made it look more like Titanic.

Regardless, there are too many holes in this fantastic story that require the unthinking acceptance of the conspiracy theory telling. I don't personally doubt that corporations are not always above doing greatly illegal, immoral things to save/make money but this story just doesn't hold together from my four or five hours of reviewing both sides stories/video/pictures on the web.

So I'm not an expert but I can play an Orly expert! :oops:

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