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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:35 am 
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He's this summer's Lucas Smith! So he might as well get his own thread.

Here's the video that's got the Birthers all hot and bothered:



(Note, this video was apparently made by a fan at Stormfront, not by anyone directly affiliated with the show.)

Here is the show's website, the show's mission statement, and full audio of the show. The live broadcast was done from the 2010 Council of Conservative Citizens National Convention. According to Wikipedia, Stormfront Radio is one of the show's syndicators.

WorldNetDaily, of course, has a headlining article today that conveniently forgets to mention the show's white supremacist angle.

As for Mr. Adams, here is his Facebook page and his YouTube account. He's got a bunch of videos debating Satanism, of all things. He's 45 years old, and uses the handle 'xray3delta' all around the web.

Google Books has an extended preview of his self-published book "Stories I've Finished Before I'm Dead".

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WND's story all over de twitter machine.




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Hawaii elections clerk: Obama birth not here
Official who oversaw ballots in 2008 race says hospital birth certificate non-existent
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WND's story all over de twitter machine.

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WND Exclusive BORN IN THE USA?
Hawaii elections clerk: Obama birth not here
Official who oversaw ballots in 2008 race says hospital birth certificate non-existent
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"There is no birth certificate," said Tim Adams, a graduate assistant who teaches English at Western Kentucky University in Bowling Green, Ky. "It's like an open secret. There isn't one. Everyone in the government there knows this."

Maybe he is confused.

Star Bulletin 6/6/09 wrote:
"The electronic record of the birth is what (the Health Department) now keeps on file in order to provide same-day certified copies at our help window for most requests," Okubo said.

Asked for more information about the short-form versus long-form birth documents, Okubo said the Health Department "does not have a short-form or long-form certificate."


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Note that he says "he was told by his boss"... He did not say that he looked up the information in the databases he had access to (which if we recall what happened when some over-eager law-enforcement officers tried to run a background check on Obama, would had a similar result). Perfect, unverifiable hearsay, particularly when his boss remains decidedly ambiguous.

Question: Why did this guy, who admits he preferred Clinton and McCain, sit on this for close to two years now, when this damning information could have swung the election for his candidate?

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"I had direct access to the Social Security database, the national crime computer, state driver's license information, international passport information, basically just about anything you can imagine to get someone's identity," Adams explained. "I could look up what bank your home mortgage was in. I was informed by my boss that we did not have a birth record [for Obama]."


Three questions:

1. Who is his boss and will his boss confirm the above allegtion? (doubtful)
2. Does he have any evidence to support his allegations? (doubtful)
3. Why didn't he come forward with these allegations when Obama was place on the presidental ballot?

BS, BS, BS as usual. :lol:


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Free Republic pulled the thread due to connections to White Supremacist groups.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2531165/posts

http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-chat/2531366/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-blo ... 1511/posts

Is Timmy a member?

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1. Why would a Hillary supporter switch to McCain (racist much)?

2. Where's his W2 to confirm he actually worked there?

3. "It's like an open secret. There isn't one." I'll bet it's more like a departmental joke, and IF he really worked there, being a birfer, he didn't get it.

4. Barack Obama would not be registered to vote much less vote in Hawaii. There would be no checking of his registration.

5. Those 50 stolen documents?

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Stolen, according to Tim, because the thief would then know if these people had voted for the current president and use it as blackmail or something.


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Tim worked as elections clerk from the spring until [highlight]August[/highlight], when 50 documents related to voter registration info of U.S. diplomats were stolen.


No one had voted yet. So no, they wouldn't "know if these people had voted for the current president".

Pure utter bullshit.

I have long wanted to send flowers or a gift basket to the poor folks at Hawaii DoH. Maybe now would be a good time. any suggestions?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:18 am 
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..the question is moot

...obama didnt vote in hawaii in 2008


he casted his vote in chicago illinois


so theres no voters documentation for that tim adams to have access to


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http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.ph ... &page=2510












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There is no such thing as a "Chief Elections Clerk " in Honolulu


The Office of the City Clerk is in charge of elections in Honolulu and that was Denise C. De Costo back in 2008 and not Tim Adams.

The current Office of the City Clerk is Bernice Mau .

The state Chief Election Officer was Kevin B. Cronin who served from 2007 to 2009 so it was not Tim Adams.


http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?p=74692001






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Tim Adams, Chief Elections Clerk for the City and County of Honolulu, Hawaii, under temporary contract, during the 20008 Presidential Election. Verified voter eligibility and had a staff of about 18 people. "When this question came up, I had access to all the usual government databases to verify identity: NCIS, [inaudible] all these other things that we use on average voters. There were two people higher than me in our office who were under the City Clerk of Honolulu, and the question came up about the birth certificate and about President Obama's birthplace."

"TIM: In our professional opinion, Barack Obama was not born in the United States and there is no Hawaii long-form birth certificate."

"HOST: Tim, was it common knowledge within that office that there was no long-form birth certificate?"

"TIM: It was openly admitted by everyone in the office who was above me; at least my immediate supervisors."

"TIM: Barack Obama was not born in Hawaii."

Tim worked as elections clerk from the spring until August, when 50 documents related to voter registration info of U.S. diplomats were stolen. Stolen, according to Tim, because the thief would then know if these people had voted for the current president and use it as blackmail or something.

He then left (apparently in the middle of that investigation) and enrolled in the University of Hawaii and "let them figure it out for themselves."


Currently teaching in Western Kentucky University in the Veterans' program.
You notice Mr. Adams never states that he had access to the "long form copy" of Obama's birth certificate. Nor was it his job to verify Obama's eligibility for President. The person whose job it was to do that has stated she saw all the relevant documentation.

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Note that he says "he was told by his boss"... He did not say that he looked up the information in the databases he had access to (which if we recall what happened when some over-eager law-enforcement officers tried to run a background check on Obama, would had a similar result). Perfect, unverifiable hearsay, particularly when his boss remains decidedly ambiguous.

Question: Why did this guy, who admits he preferred Clinton and McCain, sit on this for close to two years now, when this damning information could have swung the election for his candidate?


Bingo! He's a PUMA.

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Tim Adams, Chief Elections Clerk for the City and County of Honolulu, Hawaii, under temporary contract, during the 20008 Presidential Election. Verified voter eligibility and had a staff of about 18 people. "When this question came up, I had access to all the usual government databases to verify identity: NCIS, [inaudible] all these other things that we use on average voters.


I would love to know if Adams actually said NCIS or if that was a transcription error. NCIS is the Navel Criminal Investigative Service. If he's talking about the crime database, that's the NCIC - National Crime Information Center. Pretty big difference there :)

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Tim worked as elections clerk from the spring until August, when 50 documents related to voter registration info of U.S. diplomats were stolen. Stolen, according to Tim, because the thief would then know if these people had voted for the current president and use it as blackmail or something.

He then left (apparently in the middle of that investigation) and enrolled in the University of Hawaii and "let them figure it out for themselves."


Left? Or was asked to leave? I also find it odd that he was brought in as a temporary working for a national election, ostensibly because they were expecting to have more work than normal - but then ended up leaving 3-4 months *before* the election in the middle of an investigation. Things that make you go "hmmmmm....," eh?

Edit: Had to fix early morning tyops

Edit: And then remove some extraneous text

Edit: And then again to fix the damn edit tag! I think I should go to bed soon. I've been awake way too long!!

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A Stormfront member is taking credit for the video. He goes by british74

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Wow, 5,330 views in two days! I really should have put a greater effort in. (Oh well, I was in a rush.)


FWIW, it's at over 11,000 views now.

Breaking link for obvious reasons:

xxxhttp://www.stormfront.org/forum/t715837/#post8205977


He started that thread with the video and this title:
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James Edwards of Political Cesspool: Tim Adams Chief Elections Clerk exposes Obama Birth Certificate Scandal


I didn't know that was a Stormfront radio program:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Political_Cesspool

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But sometimes a graduate student who is 40 years old has a certain weirdness about him, often the aroma of years of failure. Tim has that aroma to me.

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He's 45 years old, and uses the handle 'xray3delta' all around the web.


No surprise to find that either WND and/or Timothy Adams are telling porkies. This guy never had any 'empathy for Obama' as claimed in the WND article. A search using 'Xray3delta + obama' turned this up:
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#626 - Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:41 PM EDT
(my emphasis)
http://herbwhite.newsvine.com/_news/200 ... Id=3663763

Also results about Luciferianism, eg. 'Author: xray3delta. Length: 00:02:39. Rating: Views: 317 ... Views: 1416. Tags: obama barack michelle luciferian satan devil NWO bush cheyney ...


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Racism is going against Obama, except it isn't, no wait, it really is...no wait, we have to bring up the race issue because the real racists are too smart to do it...no wait, if you don't vote for a Daly Machine, corrupt, racist, islamist, liberal candidate, it's because you're racist...or not, we can't say, but of course we just did, because our chosen messiah is getting whipped like a hebrew slave child by a white woman from Alaska. Wait, I can't say that, it's racist, or is it? Looks like Hillary Clinton (who still had more votes) should have been the nominee. Democrats alienate their own membership by forcing agenda with Obama candidacy, the reason? Dems are overwhelmingly, still, racists...or not, SHUT UP AND RUN THE IDIOT YOU NOMINATED, SEE YOU AFTER NOVEMBER. Had all of us voting for your ticket, not now, oh wait, I guess that's cause we're all racists. FUBAR!@

Reply#735 - Sat Sep 20, 2008 4:42 PM EDT


huh? okay then.

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Note that he says "he was told by his boss"... He did not say that he looked up the information in the databases he had access to (which if we recall what happened when some over-eager law-enforcement officers tried to run a background check on Obama, would had a similar result). Perfect, unverifiable hearsay, particularly when his boss remains decidedly ambiguous.

Question: Why did this guy, who admits he preferred Clinton and McCain, sit on this for close to two years now, when this damning information could have swung the election for his candidate?


I have asked that question in the youtube comments. *Chirp* *Chirp* *Chirp*.

I also noticed that he has removed a video called "Your Pastor's a Whore" (Sic) from his user acct. But then it is there. Confusing. He is a Christian, but have very strange beliefs. I hope to listen to more of his videos before they go *poof*.

"God doesn't love everybody. ..... The great majority of mankind God hates."

Disturbing video linked to below.

EastWestRain, who posted the youtube video, is a Holocaust Denier. I won't link to any of EastWestRain's videos.

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Share your info at youtube!! I would, but I have to give a final exam. Damn students. Wanting grades and all that. :roll:

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"God doesn't love everybody. ..... The great majority of mankind God hates."

He would fit right in at Westboro Baptist Church, which says exactly the same thing -- except that Phelps applies it to entire countries, such as America.

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"God doesn't love everybody. ..... The great majority of mankind God hates."

He would fit right in at Westboro Baptist Church, which says exactly the same thing -- except that Phelps applies it to entire countries, such as America.


He has bad things to say about Heritage Christian University. He did not graduate from there. I didn't watch any of his videos in full. I clicked on a couple, but I couldn't make it through any of them. :?

http://www.youtube.com/user/xray3delta#p/u/

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..the question is moot

...obama didnt vote in hawaii in 2008


he casted his vote in chicago illinois


so theres no voters documentation for that tim adams to have access to


Casted?

Is there a birther anywhere that got past 4th grade?

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Google Books has an extended preview of his self-published book "Stories I've Finished Before I'm Dead".


By his own account in the the first chapter, 'My Story', Tim Adams has a history of mental health problems extending back into early childhood. :(


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... has a history of mental health problems ...

Sadly, if we look at the world of birthers, that phrase I believe can be applied almost universally. And, no, I'm not saying this in a mean spirited way, but as an honest observation. Think about each character and tell me I'm not right. :(

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A search using 'Xray3delta + obama' turned this up:
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...All of your, both McCain and Obama supporters are filth, civil war now, kill them all.
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...and they let him teach ENGLISH?

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A search using 'Xray3delta + obama' turned this up:
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...All of your, both McCain and Obama supporters are filth, civil war now, kill them all.
(my emphasis)


...and they let him teach ENGLISH?

Good point. But they shouldn't be letting him teach ANYTHING at a public university after that statement.

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... has a history of mental health problems ...

Sadly, if we look at the world of birthers, that phrase I believe can be applied almost universally. And, no, I'm not saying this in a mean spirited way, but as an honest observation. Think about each character and tell me I'm not right. :(


I understand you're not being insulting, but keep in mind that there are a lot of non-birthers who would also have a history of mental health problems. For me, it's clinical depression and certain aspects of my Tourette's Syndrome (that affect my mental functioning.)

Granted, the types of mental health issues birthers have seem - by and large - to be personality disorders (narcissism, borderline personality disorder, etc.) as opposed to the depressive/anxiety branch, so there is that.

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