John Dummett in 2012!

Suranis · **Joined:** Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:04 am **Posts:** 5248

Welcome Mr Dummett

jdummett wrote:

This means this will be the first time that the merits of the case whether Obama is eligible or not will finally be decided.

Incorrect. The Court of Appeals in Indiana looked at the merits of the case in 2009 Their ruling in part

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Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born Citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents. Just as a person “born within the British dominions [was] a natural-born British subject” at the time of the framing of the U.S. Constitution, so too were those “born in the allegiance of the United States [] natural-born citizens.”15

You can real the entire ruling here

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To top this there are now over twenty State ballot commissions who are facing lawsuits and the end of the week we expect to file against twenty more. A week after this we should get the other seventeen ? No wait is there fifty States or fifty-seven. Maybe we should ask Obama.

Dude, in all seriousness, its been 4 years since he made that slip, and that's the one and only gaffe that you people keep referencing in your unfunny jokes. Is that because there arn't any others, hmm? If Obama was the terrible speaker you want to insinuate he is, than surely you would have more material, hmm? I mean he could have forgotten the third thing he want's to Abolish, offered a 10 grand bet on something on live tv, said the fundamentals of the economy are strong and had crib notes for prepared questions on his right hand...

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So keep making stupid remarks about things most of you know nothing about. To prove a point there are three types of citizens in the United States. Native born, Naturalized and Natural Born Citizens.

Here is a link to US citizenship law. please point us to the place where those 3 types of citizenship are discussed.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/uscod ... 10_11.html

Sterngard Friegen · **Posted:** Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:04 am

John Dummett counts and sexes fish. Please do not ask him legal questions.

verbalobe · **Posted:** Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:05 am

Sterngard Friegen wrote:

John Dummett counts and sexes fish. Please do not ask him legal questions.

Except for Roe v Wade.

Mikedunford · **Posted:** Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:06 am

verbalobe wrote:

Sterngard Friegen wrote:

John Dummett counts and sexes fish. Please do not ask him legal questions.

Except for Roe v Wade.

*groan*

listeme · **Posted:** Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:08 am

Mikedunford wrote:

verbalobe wrote:

Sterngard Friegen wrote:

John Dummett counts and sexes fish. Please do not ask him legal questions.

Except for Roe v Wade.

*groan*

Don't encourage him.

(Or Dummett either, I guess.)

jtmunkus · **Joined:** Mon May 23, 2011 7:33 pm **Posts:** 3496

I think you might be surprised to find that your lawyer, Mr. Van Iirons, has been fibbing to you about the states in which he's filed challenges. Or you're both fibbing.

Let's see your daughter/daughter-in-law's birth certificate.

:flame:

kate520 · **Posted:** Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:00 am

Here's his campaign manager. The reason I know it's this guy is ...Shalice is one of his friends.

http://theregulatorsvigilancecommittee. ... illiamodom

:roll:

Jesus, these people give me a pain. WHO do they think they are, anyway?

raicha · **Posted:** Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:08 am

I think the doo-may is only committing a hit-and-run here. I'm not going to let his idiocy get to me. Why would he come back? Doesn't he have a million better things to do running for the US Presidency?

:roll:

Meh. They all show up here eventually. Fear the Fogbow.

nbc · **Joined:** Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:38 am **Posts:** 2530

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To prove a point there are three types of citizens in the United States. Native born, Naturalized and Natural Born Citizens.

Uh... Nope... All Native Born citizens are natural born citizens with few exceptions found in Common Law, namely born to foreign dignitaries and invading military, and in the US, Native Americans.

There is no legal or scholarly support for such a notion.

There are countless examples

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In Steinkauler’s case (15 Op Atty Gen 15 12 Alb L.J. 23) in an opinion by Mr Pierrepont Attorney General of the US we have the following .Young Steinkauler who was born in St Louis after his father had been naturalized in the United States the father subsequently returning to Germany and taking the boy with him is a native born American citizen. There is no law of the United States under which his father or any other person can deprive him of his birthright. He can return to America at the age of twenty one and in due time if the people elect he can become President of the United States but the father in accordance with the treaty and the laws has renounced his American citizenship and his American allegiance and has acquired for himself and his son German citizenship and the rights which it carries and he must take the burdens as well as the advantages.

majorbabs · **Posted:** Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:29 am

kate520 wrote:

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...and it was I who saved the nation from itself.

Once again, =))

This is what the birfers have in common - delusional thinking.

This may be a surprise to you, Mr. Dummett, but you aren't really running for President. I'm not sure what you're doing, but no one will see your name on any ballot.

Also, I think you spelled your attorney's name wrong. Iiron?

How can you doubt John, Kate? This is a man with real leadership experience, why he managed to be be a Webelos cub scout leader for a short while almost 30 years ago-- and as far as I know, John has not been accused yet of molesting any of his charges. What more can anyone ask of a leader of the most powerful nation on earth? Once you've handled a handful of pre-teen boys, dealing with America's problems will be easy peasy for John.

You want more, well there is that video of him racing across an open field on a horse. John sure knows to handle the reins of power.

You want more, sorry Kate but that's all John has in his arsenal -- except he can keep count of fish and maybe some wildlife. Maybe he take world leaders fishing or a horse ride -- or tell them the long story about how his daughter is also his daughter-in-law. Surely that should be good for a laugh or two. :mrgreen:

nbc · **Joined:** Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:38 am **Posts:** 2530

jdummett wrote:

In Tennessee the Secretary of State has already put to writing his willingness to keep Obama off the Tennessee ballot until this case is settled. It is going to be my guess that Obama will not be on any ballot in 2012 and it was I who saved the nation from itself.

ROTFL, but the DNC will still elect him to be their Presidential Nominee and certify him to be on the ballot in all 50 states. What then? But since your position is based on a flawed understanding of citizenship, I doubt that you will manage to keep him even from a single primary ballot. Sorry my friend but with the present GOP lineup, President Obama appears to be the most likely candidate for the next presidency. And there is really nothing you can do about through the courts.

jtmunkus · **Joined:** Mon May 23, 2011 7:33 pm **Posts:** 3496

jdummy wrote:

In Tennessee the Secretary of State has already put to writing his willingness to keep Obama off the Tennessee ballot until this case is settled.It is going to be my guess that Obama will not be on any ballot in 2012 and it was I who saved the nation from itself.

Wake up, Dum Dum. President (<---that's right!) Obama already won the New Hampshire primary in 2012.

](*,)

raicha · **Posted:** Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:35 am

no really, it's pronounced "doomay" wrote:

It is going to be my guess that Obama will not be on any ballot in 2012 and it was I who saved the nation from itself.

Of course Obama has already been on a ballot in 2012 in a state where a pitched birther battle was fought: New Hampshire

#-o

Somerset · **Posted:** Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:24 am

jdummett wrote:

So keep making stupid remarks about things most of you know nothing about. To prove a point there are three types of citizens in the United States. Native born, Naturalized and Natural Born Citizens.

Hi John - Welcome to The Fogbow. Wow, a real Presidential Candidate! Pretty cool

I hope you enjoy your time here. We have cookies and kitties (well, except under the bridge, where there aren't any cookies, and the kittehs have much bigger claws). We always welcome you smart folk coming here and teaching us new stuff. We learned a lot from the last John that hung out here for a while. He was some type of award winning doctor scientist, and he taught us quite a bit about how things really worked back in the 1980s.

Since we're making stupid remarks about things we know nothing about, can you please educate us with some case law about that three types of citizen idea? We've been looking for it for a while and we haven't been able to find it.

Thanks!

BFB · **Posted:** Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:50 am

Ya sure that's him?

Somerset · **Posted:** Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:34 am

BFB wrote:

Ya sure that's him?

No. But a new kitteh toy is a new kitteh toy :twisted:

Foggy · **Posted:** Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:45 am

raicha's right, this was probably another one-hit wonder, meaning one post and we'll never see him again.

I'm not even going to throw him beneath the bridge unless he returns.

kimba · **Joined:** Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:24 pm **Posts:** 6631

Gosh darn it, I hope he comes back and explains this:

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In Tennessee the Secretary of State has already put to writing his willingness to keep Obama off the Tennessee ballot until this case is settled

He's Tre Hargett. This informative bit is over at obamaballotchallenge:

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Per the Secretary of State’s Office

If the challenge is made prior to the ballot being approved, the challenge would be made to the election commission. There should be a public meeting held where the election commission approves the names for the ballot. I would recommend you contacting the election commission office if you believe a candidate is not eligible for the ballot. If the challenge is made after the ballot has been approved and printed, the challenge would have to be made in court.

But then there's this...

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Secretary Hargett Announces Candidates for Tennessee’s March Presidential Primary
(Published: December 5, 2011)
Secretary of State Tre Hargett announced the nine Republican candidates and one Democrat who are scheduled to compete in Tennessee’s March 6 presidential preference primary elections.

Secretary Hargett announced the candidates’ names during a State Election Commission meeting this afternoon.

The Republican candidates are: Michele Bachmann, Newt Gingrich, Jon Huntsman, Gary Johnson, Ron Paul, Rick Perry, Charles “Buddy” Roemer, Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum. The lone Democrat is President Barack Obama.

Any of the listed candidates who do not wish to participate in the Tennessee primaries have until noon Dec. 13 to withdraw, otherwise their names will appear on the ballot.

http://tnsos.org/Press/story.php?item=321

Welsh Dragon · **Posted:** Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:52 am

Thanks Kimba I was wondering where our pet presidential candidate got that from.

TN is one of those states where the SoS can simply nominate nationally recognised candidates although you can also get on the ballot by petition with 2500 signatures but the deadline was 6th Dec.

realist · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm **Posts:** 23548

Welsh Dragon wrote:

Thanks Kimba I was wondering where our pet presidential candidate got that from.

TN is one of those states where the SoS can simply nominate nationally recognised candidates although you can also get on the ballot by petition with 2500 signatures but the deadline was 6th Dec.

More birther lies from Dummett

http://tnsos.org/Press/story.php?item=321

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Secretary Hargett Announces Candidates for Tennessee’s March Presidential Primary
(Published: December 5, 2011)

Secretary of State Tre Hargett announced the nine Republican candidates and one Democrat who are scheduled to compete in Tennessee’s March 6 presidential preference primary elections.

Secretary Hargett announced the candidates’ names during a State Election Commission meeting this afternoon.

The Republican candidates are: Michele Bachmann, Newt Gingrich, Jon Huntsman, Gary Johnson, Ron Paul, Rick Perry, Charles “Buddy” Roemer, Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum. The lone Democrat is President Barack Obama.

Any of the listed candidates who do not wish to participate in the Tennessee primaries have until noon Dec. 13 to withdraw, otherwise their names will appear on the ballot.

Anyone remember Obama withdrawing his name by noon Dec. 13? Didn't think so.

kate520 · **Posted:** Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:36 am

Darn it, he coulda been fun. I hope he returns. ;;)

Foggy · **Posted:** Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:34 pm

realist wrote:

Anyone remember Obama withdrawing his name by noon Dec. 13? Didn't think so.

He knew better than to ruin my birfday like dat. ;;)

Sequoia32 · **Posted:** Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:52 pm

jdummett wrote:

To top this there are now over twenty State ballot commissions who are facing lawsuits and the end of the week we expect to file against twenty more. A week after this we should get the other seventeen ?

Better get to fundraising to cover all of those costs and fees that will be awarded to the Democratic party in all those states.

LM K · **Posted:** Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:46 am

realist wrote:

BFB · **Posted:** Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:01 pm

Sequoia32 wrote:

jdummett wrote:

To top this there are now over twenty State ballot commissions who are facing lawsuits and the end of the week we expect to file against twenty more. A week after this we should get the other seventeen ?

Better get to fundraising to cover all of those costs and fees that will be awarded to the Democratic party in all those states.

So is this the end of the week??

Falsehoods unchallenged only fester and grow.

John Dummett in 2012!

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