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 Post subject: John Dummett in 2012!
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ORYR: Presidential Candidate To File Multi-State Constitutional Eligibility Lawsuit Against Barack Hussein Obama
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As campaign manager for 2012 Presidential candidate John Dummett, we have just aligned ourselves with a prominent Constitutional Eligibility attorney by the name of Van Irion of the Liberty Legal Foundation from Tennessee...He has agreed to file a constitutional eligibility lawsuit on behalf of John Dummett as lead FEC presidential candidate..This lawsuit will be filed within the next 3 days, if not earlier...It will be filed in 3 states, local and federal of this great country in a massive concerted effort to bring honor and integrity to our ballot box and to prevent ineligible un-constitutional candidates such as barack hussein obama from ever appearing on the state ballot in any US state...It is our fervent hope and prayer that we will spread this lawsuit to all 50 states...There will be an upcoming press release within the next few days that will set out a little more in detail as to our approach on this novel matter that we believe will be embraced by the courts.

Irion is failed republican candidate, a 10th-er, and has filed suit challenging HCR.

In other words: Tennessee's Kreep.

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According to the FEC, Dummett is running as a republican.

He's claiming he's going to file eligibility lawsuits within the week, but his only current opponent who he can challenge is Andy Martin.

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sincerely, campaign manager william odom

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Excellent response to defendants motion to dismiss [in Barnett v. Obama]….This, in my opinion, has to be the best written, most well thought out response I have ever read!!!………………bill

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He's claiming he's going to file eligibility lawsuits within the week, but his only current opponent who he can challenge is Andy Martin.

:-bd


But...but...[the lawsuit] will be filed in 3 states, local and federal of this great country in a massive concerted effort...

WTF? This is the perfect job for a patent attorney.

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WTF? This is the perfect job for a Constitutional patent attorney.


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Let him file whatever he wants. He doesn't have standing now/yet.


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Hmm, a prominent eligibility lawyer who has yet to file a single eligibility lawsuit? How did we miss his "prominence"? Filing in the next 3 days too. Huh. I guess every time a new lawyer hops aboard the eligibility train, the courts have to educate the new guy on the topic of standing.

Gawd, these people are thick.

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Hmm, a prominent eligibility lawyer who has yet to file a single eligibility lawsuit? How did we miss his "prominence"? Filing in the next 3 days too. Huh. I guess every time a new lawyer hops aboard the eligibility train, the courts have to educate the new guy on the topic of standing.

Gawd, these people are thick.


Hey, he has a much better record than any other so-called "eligibility lawyer." After all, he is so far undefeated, unlike the other "prominent eligibility lawyers" who have defeat after defeat under their belts. He has yet to lose even one completely frivolous lawsuit!

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raicha wrote:
Hmm, a prominent eligibility lawyer who has yet to file a single eligibility lawsuit? How did we miss his "prominence"? Filing in the next 3 days too. Huh. I guess every time a new lawyer hops aboard the eligibility train, the courts have to educate the new guy on the topic of standing.

Gawd, these people are thick.


Hey, he has a much better record than any other so-called "eligibility lawyer." After all, he is so far undefeated, unlike the other "prominent eligibility lawyers" who have defeat after defeat under their belts. He has yet to lose even one completely frivolous lawsuit!


It also looks like this guy has been actually making a living as a lawyer as oppose to Orly, Berg, etc. The question I have is just how much time and money (as in lost billable hours) is he willing to expend?

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A Legal Lohengrin wrote:
raicha wrote:
Hmm, a prominent eligibility lawyer who has yet to file a single eligibility lawsuit? How did we miss his "prominence"? Filing in the next 3 days too. Huh. I guess every time a new lawyer hops aboard the eligibility train, the courts have to educate the new guy on the topic of standing.

Gawd, these people are thick.


Hey, he has a much better record than any other so-called "eligibility lawyer." After all, he is so far undefeated, unlike the other "prominent eligibility lawyers" who have defeat after defeat under their belts. He has yet to lose even one completely frivolous lawsuit!


It also looks like this guy has been actually making a living as a lawyer as oppose to Orly, Berg, etc. The question I have is just how much time and money (as in lost billable hours) is he willing to expend?


Apparently quite a bit. He has this case, originally filed in TN...

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U.S. District Court - Eastern District of Tennessee (Knoxville)
CIVIL DOCKET FOR CASE #: 3:10-cv-00402

Liberty Legal Foundation et al v. Obama et al
Assigned to: District Judge Thomas W Phillips
Referred to: Magistrate Judge H Bruce Guyton
Cause: 28:2201 Declaratory Judgement
Date Filed: 09/16/2010
Jury Demand: Plaintiff
Nature of Suit: 465 Other Immigration Actions
Jurisdiction: U.S. Government Defendant


It was tossed in a ruling on the papers, then he "re-filed" in TX after doing some judge shopping. It is awaiting ruling on a MTD and a MSJ.

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Docket #: 5:11-cv-00026
Case Name: Enloe et al v. Obama et al
PACER case #: 203159
Date filed: 2011-02-11
Assigned to: Judge Sam R Cummings
Case Cause: 28:2201 Constitutionality of State Statute(s)
Nature of Suit: 440 Civil Rights: Other
Jury Demand: Plaintiff
Jurisdiction: U.S. Government Defendant


Much more info on the cases and the attorneys and parties here viewtopic.php?f=46&t=6756&view=unread#p301544

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 Post subject: John Dummett in 2012!
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Dummett, 55, is a staff programmer analyst for the California Department of Fish and Game. He was born in Sterling [in Illinois; 2 hours outside of Chicago!] in October 1955. His family moved to Sacramento a year later.

[...]

“I am a constitutional historian,” he said. “Let’s put somebody that is educated and knows what they are doing. That’s what got me interested in running.

[...]

“If we don’t stop voting for Ivy League-trained attorneys, career politicians or wealthy businessmen, the only change we will ever get is a change in faces and not in the way politics are carried out or with our ideology as a nation,” he wrote.

Dummett’s campaign manager, William Odom of Ocala, Fla., knows how difficult it will be to get his candidate any national media attention.

Good thing Dummett planning on going birther! He should be dining with Trump* in no time.


* A wealthy businessman.

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“If we don’t stop voting for Ivy League-trained attorneys...


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Sit down; breathe deeply: Taitz is right about something:
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What about John Dummett, why he does not have standing or case against Obama

I am sure Mr. Dummett is a good person, I wish him all the best, but he does not have standing. I was contacted by Mr. Dummett and a couple of his friends probably a couple of months ago. His two friends wanted to travel from FL, where they reside, to CA, in order to persuade me to file a class action law suit with Mr. Dummett as a lead plaintiff, they wanted me to take this case and represent Mr. Dummett.

I explained to them, that first and foremost, during the primary neither he, nor even legitimate candidates on the ballot, do not have standing to challenge Obama. Even, if Romney, Cain and Perry wanted to sue Obama today and seek adjudication of the BC issue, they cannot do it during the primary, as they do not face Obama during the Primary, they face each other, so the judge will say, that the law suit is just hypothetical, conjectural, not ripe. Republican nominee can sue Obama later during the general election, but not during the Primary.[*]

2. From what I understand, Mr. Dummett simply filled out one page form, saying that he has an intention to run for President. Most people do not know, that there are some 250-260 people, who simply filled out this one page form and are considered candidates for President, however, it is really nothing. In order to even run in the Primary, one has to be on the ballot. In order to be on the ballot, one has to pay necessary fees. For example, in order to run for Senate, and have my name on the ballot, I need to pay $3420 to the state of CA. In order to run for President, one has to pay a fee in each and every state. As far as I know, John Dummett did not pay fees yet and he is not on the ballot yet.

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In order for the judge to certify a law suit, as a class action, the judge has to certify a class. It means, that the damages of all the members of the class have to be similar. For example, all candidates running in the General election: Republican, Libertarian, Independents can make a class, however the public at large, are not part of this class.

4. Readers of this blog know, that I work 24/7, I travel a lot. If I would have believed, that there is a case there, I would have filed it and would even travel long distance, however I just did not see any case there. Even when I do have a case, as it is with the former UN Ambassador, Dr. Alan Keyes,[**] who, indeed, was a Presidential candidate in general election facing Obama, due to enourmous corruption in our Judiciary, we can’t even get a hearing on the merits, but in Dummet case, there wasn’t really a case or standing.

xxx-http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=26948


* Which is why Dummett should sue Andy Martin.

** Which, of course, explains why your suit also included 40, 80, 200 service members (many retired), state legislators, and your dog.

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 Post subject: John Dummett in 2012!
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I have read a lot of threads concerning my cases to make the DNC show us what they used to certify an obvious usurper to our Presidency. From what I read nearly everyone has had their argument shot down since I first decided to employ the strategy I came up with to expose the traitor Obama.

First of all is the issue of Standing. If anyone would care to check the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals granted anyone running for President including myself Standing. Also currently my attorney Van Iirons is in Georgia conducting a case against the DNC. Obama attempted once again to hide any information that could identify him and the courts told his attorneys to take a hike and refused to dismiss the suit. This means this will be the first time that the merits of the case whether Obama is eligible or not will finally be decided.

To top this there are now over twenty State ballot commissions who are facing lawsuits and the end of the week we expect to file against twenty more. A week after this we should get the other seventeen ? No wait is there fifty States or fifty-seven. Maybe we should ask Obama.

In Tennessee the Secretary of State has already put to writing his willingness to keep Obama off the Tennessee ballot until this case is settled. It is going to be my guess that Obama will not be on any ballot in 2012 and it was I who saved the nation from itself.

So keep making stupid remarks about things most of you know nothing about. To prove a point there are three types of citizens in the United States. Native born, Naturalized and Natural Born Citizens. Since Obama has already admitted that his father was born in Kenya the issue is academic. HE IS NOT ELIGIBLE TO BE PRESIDENT BECAUSE AT THE BEST HE IS ONLY A NATIVE BORN AND ACCORDING TO ARTICLE II SECTION I CLAUSE V Obama has no business holding the office he does.


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Another one for the Birther Cage!

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Hey, Dummett:

What, exactly, is the National Democratic Party of the USA, Inc.?

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Mr.Dummett, you do know you're talking to a board full of lawyers, do you not? Of course you don't. They have no idea what they're talking about? Hahahahahahahahaha! You really are a Dummett, dude. I would venture to say you could find several people here who know as much, if not more, about your field of expertise as you do. They know a whole lot more about politics and the law than you.

You and Orly have taken the losers position. Come see us in 14 days and tell us all about your trial. :lol:

Hahahahahahahaha!

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I have read a lot of threads concerning my cases to make the DNC show us what they used to certify an obvious usurper to our Presidency. From what I read nearly everyone has had their argument shot down since I first decided to employ the strategy I came up with to expose the traitor Obama.

As will yours be. Of course, you have to serve someone first to have a lawsuit.

First of all is the issue of Standing. If anyone would care to check the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals granted anyone running for President including myself Standing.

[No, they didn't.]

Also currently my attorney Van Iirons is in Georgia conducting a case against the DNC. Obama attempted once again to hide any information that could identify him and the courts told his attorneys to take a hike and refused to dismiss the suit. This means this will be the first time that the merits of the case whether Obama is eligible or not will finally be decided.

[And based on Minor, you will lose. It's a flawed legal theory.]

To top this there are now over twenty State ballot commissions who are facing lawsuits and the end of the week we expect to file against twenty more. A week after this we should get the other seventeen ? No wait is there fifty States or fifty-seven. Maybe we should ask Obama.

[Good for you. Come back when Obama is on all the ballots and let us know how that worked out for you.]

In Tennessee the Secretary of State has already put to writing his willingness to keep Obama off the Tennessee ballot until this case is settled. It is going to be my guess that Obama will not be on any ballot in 2012 and it was I who saved the nation from itself.

[Really? I'd love to see that Order. I have somehow missed it. If that's so, it will be overturned in short order.]


So keep making stupid remarks about things most of you know nothing about.

[Don't like tit for tat?]

To prove a point there are three types of citizens in the United States. Native born, Naturalized and Natural Born Citizens. Since Obama has already admitted that his father was born in Kenya the issue is academic. HE IS NOT ELIGIBLE TO BE PRESIDENT BECAUSE AT THE BEST HE IS ONLY A NATIVE BORN AND ACCORDING TO ARTICLE II SECTION I CLAUSE V Obama has no business holding the office he does.

That proves no point except your abject ignorance of the Constitution.]

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Mr. Dummett -- Can you tell us why your family tree is, at some point, a straight line? Why is your daughter also your daughter-in-law? Is there something we should know? You know, when you have a fake vanity candidacy for POTUS you become an open book.

Also, why do you discount your granddaughters and say you hope for a grandson?

As for your ideas, you may want to go back to counting fish. You have no idea what you're talking about. But you're also not worth debating.

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I have read a lot of threads concerning my cases to make the DNC show us what they used to certify an obvious usurper to our Presidency. From what I read nearly everyone has had their argument shot down since I first decided to employ the strategy I came up with to expose the traitor Obama.


How. Dare. You.

Barack Hussein Obama II is, whether you like it or not, the President of the United States of America. Your failure to treat him with the respect due to his office speaks volumes - about you.

Your "strategy" is based on nothing more than your desperate desire to see birthright citizenship - something that all of us were taught was an integral part of what makes America exceptional - discarded simply because you don't like the current President of the United States of America. You don't like Obama. You don't like that he's President. So you are attacking one of the cornerstone promises of our civic faith - if you are born here, if you work hard, if you study hard, if you take advantage of all that America has to offer, you might be able to be the President someday.

That's what America is. That's what makes America great. That's part of the hope and dream that lead most of our ancestors to these shores. It's something that we all were taught, that we all learned, and that we all believed was part of the Promise that we make to the citizens of our country. Then President Obama was elected. And now a vociferous but narrow-minded minority has chosen discarding part of the American Way over discarding their own petty bigotries.

And you - you who are attempting to discard one of the things that makes our country great - dare to label the President a traitor?

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First of all is the issue of Standing. If anyone would care to check the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals granted anyone running for President including myself Standing. Also currently my attorney Van Iirons is in Georgia conducting a case against the DNC. Obama attempted once again to hide any information that could identify him and the courts told his attorneys to take a hike and refused to dismiss the suit. This means this will be the first time that the merits of the case whether Obama is eligible or not will finally be decided.

To top this there are now over twenty State ballot commissions who are facing lawsuits and the end of the week we expect to file against twenty more. A week after this we should get the other seventeen ? No wait is there fifty States or fifty-seven. Maybe we should ask Obama.

In Tennessee the Secretary of State has already put to writing his willingness to keep Obama off the Tennessee ballot until this case is settled. It is going to be my guess that Obama will not be on any ballot in 2012 and


It is my guess that you are wrong.

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Why, granny, what a big ego you have.

And what a capacity for error.

You are not even attempting to save the nation from itself. You are attempting to force the country into your pathetically narrow view of what it should be. You want us to transform from the beacon on the hill to the light locked under the basket. You want to strip the American dream from anyone unlucky enough to be born the child of immigrants, legal or otherwise. You - a man who is himself descended from people who dared to uproot themselves and travel to a country that offered hope they did not have at home - want to strip some of that hope from those who arrive later than your ancestors.

That is not an attempt to save the country from itself. It is an assault on a central facet of American life.

I promise you that we will not let your assault on America go unchallenged. As long as you continue your pathetic efforts to diminish the stature of the nation, we will be there to ensure that you continue to fail.

Edit: Fixed quote position issue

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Once again, =)) =)) =)) =)) =)) =))

This is what the birfers have in common - delusional thinking.

This may be a surprise to you, Mr. Dummett, but you aren't really running for President. I'm not sure what you're doing, but no one will see your name on any ballot. 8>

Also, I think you spelled your attorney's name wrong. Iiron?

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That's not quite true, Kate520. Mr. Dummett will see his name on the ballot because he'll write it in -- on his. Other than that, not so much.

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Monsieur Doo-may - In any future communications, please substitute the following for your signature:

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Hey Dummett -- crawl back under your rock. According to my calendar, you're not due for your 15 nanoseconds of Fail until June:



But that gives you plenty of time to fundraise pick the pockets of all your supporters the fixed-income retirees who are terrified of the thug in THEIR White House. :-bd


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