Internal consistency is not the strong suit of any of these birfers, any more than spelling, grammar, or competence of any sort (any sort of license == competence in their eyes).

But yes, what you're missing is that something must be wrong because there's a ******* in Our White House, so any doubt they can cling to, no matter how improbable (or even impossible) or internally inconsistent "proves" in their minds that Obama is a usurper.

In one way, it's sort of like a rockribbed fundamentalist who clings to their belief that the world was made 6,000 years ago, because if ANY part of their belief is questioned, the whole thing would come crashing down. That's how they think, so they assume that it applies to everyone else.

If this has been posted here, I have completely missed it, so if so I apologize for the duplicate.

At Jacky Ryan's Scribd page I just noticed this comment by Georgetown JD...



in response this being posted on Scribd by "troom" with the title "Adjacent SSN to Obama."

http://www.scribd.com/troom

Ah, Helen Tansey. Friend of Walter Fitzpatrick, and a former PUMA gone birther.

Wasn't Ayers still a fugitive in 1977?

Yes, Ayes and his wife, Bernadette Dohrn were fugitives until 1980. It was impossible for Ayers to have furnished any help with a fake identity for Obama since there is no evidence of their meeting until 1995. That would be true for the Corsi /Cashill claims of Ayers writing DOMF which was first published in July, 1995. There is no evidence of the being more than acquaintances who served on a board together and lived in the same neighborhood. Could Ayes and the publisher have dreamed up the book and then had to pull Obama in to put his name on it? I have been absorbing too much Corsi/Orly -dream-thinking.

Yeah, but is Georgetown's posting really the way numbers are assigned?



I know Georgetown usually knows that of which she speaks. That just sounds odd to me and I admittedly don't know, so just askin'.

No, I don't think she could possibly have meant to be serious.

My brother and I have consecutive SS # numbers, like this:

### - ## - ###1
###- ###- ###2

They were issued in the late 60's. Back in those days kids didn't get SS number until they needed them, usually about the time they were applying for their first job. I was about 15 when I first needed a SS # for something or other, and my dad decided to save himself a trip and filled out 2 applications - one for me & one for my younger brother -- and when we got the cards they just came that way, sequentially numbered.

That doesn't mean that all numbers issued at about the same time would be sequentially numbered, however. It is likely that there were hand entries being done by human beings -- so when my dad submitted 2 applications together, they both would have been handled by the same employee. But that doesn't mean that there weren't half a dozen other employees in the same office also working on their own batches of applications. I have no idea how they would have controlled the issuance back in pre-computer, pre-internet days.

I think she's joking. My sisters' numbers and mine are sequential XXX-XX-XXX1, -XXX2, -XXX3. Think about how many numbers combinations are possible.

According to the SSA, the first three numbers are the Area Number and originally were assigned geographically based on the zip code of the mailing address. The second set of numbers is the Group Number which were created simply for organizing purposes and are not issued in sequential order, but ODD first, 01, 03... then EVEN 02, 04....

The last four are the Serial Number and they run consecutively 01 - 9999. So for each XX-XX-XXXX, let's say XX-23-XXXX, the numbers are issued XX-23-0001 up to XX-23-9999, then the sequence moves to XX-25-0001 to 9999. 10,000 numbers each.

http://www.socialsecurity.gov/employer/ssnweb.htm
http://www.ssa.gov/history/ssn/geocard.html


Starting this year, the numbers issued will be completely random by area number because eliminating the dedication of numbers to an area will extend the life of the 9 digit system. SSA stresses the Area Number does not really mean anything other than for their record keeping organization:
http://www.socialsecurity.gov/employer/randomization.html

Based on the info at the link that Kimba posted - http://www.ssa.gov/history/ssn/geocard.html -- my SS (and my brothers) would have an area number corresponding to the office where issued, because it was prior to 1972. I seem to have a recollection of actually going to the SS office with my father to do the application, but I could have that confused in my mind with the time we went to get my passport, when I was 16.

You might have actually gone in, but in 1972 if you mailed in your application it would have gone to a local or regional office. The applications now go to a central location, but they are still being assigned their area number geographically by the zip code of the mailing address on the card. But SSA says it's only for their record-keeping, and it's not meant to indicate any usable information by any one of us.



http://www.thefogbow.com/special-reports/social-security-number/

Apparently there is a rumor that goes around that the group number is assigned by race, and poor old SSA has had to do some myth debunking of their own. They're eliminating the area number assignments because in higher population areas like CA and NY, they're running out of numbers. Randomizing the area group number assignment extends the life of the 9 digits available.

http://www.ssa.gov/history/ssnmyth.html

My brother and sister are twins and they do not have consecutive SS numbers. Theirs were issued to them in 1984.

I would say that's because after 1972, the applications all went to a central location and their applications probably didn't stay together during the process. Ours were probably issued from a local office and that's why they stayed together and were consecutive.

My family (Mom, Dad, me, brother) immigrated from Canada in 1981 and we were all issued SSNs at the same time. Our numbers are not consecutive to each other, though they are close and of course have the same prefix (that corresponds to Arizona subject to the SSA disclaimer).

Since it was after 1972, your applications went to the central office in Baltimore for numbers to be assigned. Before that, you could bring or mail your application into a local office where the cards were processed and the card and number were issued from that local office. I think that meant a higher possibility of 3 applications staying together through the process because they probably went right from the counter to the processing person. I think it would be unlikely anyone who applied after 1972 would get consecutive numbers and 3 sisters getting consecutive numbers is probably pretty unusual.

But I swears we committed no frauds!! We didn't knock down old people and steal their numbers!

Susan Daniels has emailed that she has "reached the pinnacle of my career" as she is mentioned in an article at the American Stinker.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/04/ ... econd.html

The usual crazy...

I'm not sure that is right. I checked the socials for two sets of twins I have as cliets and its the last 2 number that changes by one. So after 042-68-4424 would be 042-68-443something. For example my 2 sets of twins last four numbers are: 0754 & 0768 and 8472 & 8488

They actually stopped doing that once the 70's came around because of "fraud" . If you knew your SSN you would know your siblings.

I know my sisters, because I learned by accident that her number is 9 numbers off of mine. Our applications were filed at the same time by my parents as well. we were not issued consecutive numbers.


ETA: Ah yes, 1972/73 -- that's the reason why...

Huh. Here are some interesting facts.

1. President Eisenhower's social security number was 572-xx-xxxx. This is a public record taken from the SSN Death Index

2. The prefix 572 corresponds to California.

3. But Eisenhower was born in Texas. I am not thoroughly familiar with Eisenhower's biography, but it doesn't appear he spent any significant time of his life in California. After his presidency, he retired in Pennyslvania. He may have spent about a year in California between 1939 and 1941, when he was a lieutenant colonel.

If these records are correct, Obama may not even the first President to have a geographical anomaly associated with his SSN.

I checked a few more presidents. Judging from the history of SSNs in general, many adult Americans signed up and received their numbers in the late 1930s. It appears that President Reagan did so while he was living in Iowa, judging from his number which corresponds with his stay in that state until his move to Hollywood in 1937. Eisenhower may also have signed up for his around the same year, even though his stay in California was a brief and temporary one.

IIRC correctly Eisenhower didn't get his SSN until after he left the presidency. In the early days there were quite a few exemptions to the Social Security system - Military, Civil Servants, Domestic Servants(?),Railway workers etc. I even saw somewhere that lawyers were exempted.

So... Eisenhower has committed social security fraud!

The first numbers were issued in 1936, 37 million numbers were issued in 1936-37. http://www.ssa.gov/history/ssn/ssnvolume.html
The first blank applications were sent to large employers and given out to employees at work in jobs covered by the prior old-age pension insurance law. Eisenhower was at Ft Ord in 1940. Prior to that he had been in the Phillipines since 1935, so maybe he just hadn't had a chance to sign up. You'd have to request his SS-5 to see the date he applied for the first time.

http://www.ssa.gov/history/ssn/ssnforms.html



Here's what was given out - their application, SS-5 and some materials explaining:

http://www.ssa.gov/history/ssn/ss5.html
http://www.ssa.gov/history/ssn/ssb36.html

http://www.dwightdeisenhower.com/general.html

Sounds like he wouldn't have been there long enough.

But:



From December '39 to Feb '40, it looks like he was in California.

Theoretically, he could have been there plenty long enough. Just had to sign up and his mail would follow his PCS to Ft. Lewis.