Obama was working at Baskin Robbins in 1977. BR doesn't "pay people under the table".

Is the 4425 number the one that was on his draft registration, or is that a different one?

And if it is, why do we care about the 4425 number?

Sooo ... he went back in time to 1977 to get an SSN he would need in the 1980s? Maybe he is a reptilian shape-shifter

As I said when I posted my postulated surmise in an attempt to explain reported events that are found in the site at the top posted comment in this thread and others one finds when searching on Sean Paul Ludwig or Jean Paul Ludwig via google ...

"This allegation has not been 100% proven that I know of. But I thought I'd pass it along for the readers here in order to get further vetting of this. But such an event would explain how the SSN from a CT person ended up in Hawaii and used by Obama."

With the added search tip from you, I found the SSDI entry you reported. Thanks for you input. I will add your data to the pot of what is known about the Ludwig who died in Hawaii.

But we still have that SSN that Obama is using with the CT prefix clearly tied to him in the [highlight]backdated[/highlight] Selective Service registration. If one enters the CT prefixed SSN into the Selective Service database it comes back with Obama's name. Search google for that and you will find many examples and screen shots going back 1-2 years on that data point. And others report Obama is using the CT prefix SSN ending in 4425 to this day up to including his latest tax returns.

Kerchner walks it back:

How do they know that?

... Thus if the elderly man originally from CT died intestate in Hawaii with no known relatives, Grandma Dunham would have known this person is a prime candidate to steal the SSN of since there would be no known surviving family worrying about the death benefit from SSN and that the benefit was not likely applied for and thus SSA did not know he died.

Grandma Dunham did part-time or volunteer work in the Honolulu probate office. She thus had access to people with SSNs dieing intestate and no known surving relatives. Grandma Dunham simply gives that SSN of a deceased man who died in HI in June 1981 to her grandson Obama to use for his application to Columbia University when he transferred there in 1981. That is the connection and how a CT SSN got from CT to HI and into the hands of the Dunham family and then to Obama.

And others report Obama is using the CT prefix SSN ending in X to this day up to including his latest tax returns.

Another problem with Chuckie Kerchner's fantasy construction theory postulated surmise:



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But but but ... didn't Orly's crack team of genealogy researchers identify Mr. Ludwig's surviving relatives? Like Florence J. Ludwig, born in 1978 in San Luis Obispo -- the same city where Jean Paul died? And John P. Ludwig and Phyllis H. Ludwig, both of Honolulu?

The only connection they've proven between Obama and Ludwig is they both have SSN's usually issued by to applicants from CT.

What she and fellow investigator Neil Sankey unearthed was a nugget that could have ended the career of a George Bush or a Sarah Plain: Barack Obama had been using a SocialSecurity number issued in Connecticut between 1977 and 1979, a state in which he never lived or even visited at that time in his life.

"[highlight]There have been many playing junior investigator from the start," [Daniels] jokes. "I don't know if they even have their decoder rings yet."[/highlight]

This being the case, I asked Daniels to guide me through the data mine field and help me ascertain what we know for sure about the world's best-known Social Security number – [SSN ending 4425].

"All I can say," says Daniels of [SSN ending 4425], "is that it's phony and [Obama] has been using it, with it first appearing on his Selective Service document in 1980."

Daniels sent me a copy of the hand-written application of the individual who held the number immediately before Obama's, [SSN ending 4424]. The applicant, Thomas Wood, died at age 19, which is why his information is available.

Wood's Social Security number was issued sometime between March and May of 1977. Obama would turn 16 in August of that year. Wood lived on Glenview Drive in Newington, Conn., the state from which all "042s" applied. Obama lived in Hawaii.

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Daniels also sent me a copy of Obama's Selective Service data. Obama appears to have registered on Sept. 4, 1980, a month after his 19th birthday. The form lists the telling last four digits of his "042" number, "4425."

This is the first use of the "042" number that Daniels could find. She is just not sure it is legitimate. [highlight]Some have credibly argued[/highlight] [who?] that the Selective Service information was forged and backdated once Obama became a presidential candidate.

[highlight]"They were stupid to use the CT number on the [Selective Service] card," Daniels adds, "because now there is no way for [Obama] to back out of that number."[/highlight]

Other than the 1980 Selective Service registration, the first time Daniels could find Obama using the "042" number was in 1986 in Chicago.

Daniels and Sankey have tracked Obama's many uses of the "042" number in Chicago, in Massachusetts and in Washington. Others numbers appear with the "Obama" name, but Daniels cautions against attributing these numbers – with the exception of those from Obama's college days at Occidental – to the president.

After analyzing the data, we grouped the typos, by their patterns, into the following categories: single digit replacement (49%), single digit omission (27%), reverse (9%), shift (6%), mirror (2%), duplication (2%), and others (5%).

Furthermore, we identified the subgroups in the two largest categories— single digit replacement and single digit omission.

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With this new information on numerical typos by Epectitus and the 1976 zip codes by Sequoia - the zip code for the Dunhams in 1976 was 96814 - if one replaces the 9 with a 0, one gets zipcode 06814, a zip code for Danbury, CT . I would like to make a motion to agree going forward that the most likely explanation for why Barack Obama was issued a SSN intended to be issued to someone with a CT mailing address is because the zip code on his SS - 5 Application for Social Security number was keyed into the system incorrectly and to declare the Bogus Social Security Number Claim Officially Debunked. All those in favor say Aye? All those opposed? Can I help in getting this explanation enshrined and captured on the Home page as a Debunked Claim?

With this new information on numerical typos by Epectitus and the 1976 zip codes by Sequoia - the zip code for the Dunhams in 1976 was 96814 - if one replaces the 9 with a 0, one gets zipcode 06814, a zip code for Danbury, CT . I would like to make a motion to agree going forward that the most likely explanation for why Barack Obama was issued a SSN intended to be issued to someone with a CT mailing address is because the zip code on his SS - 5 Application for Social Security number was keyed into the system incorrectly and to declare the Bogus Social Security Number Claim Officially Debunked. All those in favor say Aye? All those opposed? Can I help in getting this explanation enshrined and captured on the Home page as a Debunked Claim?

I randomly did a Westlaw search for any court decisions that have dealt with SSN geographical/assignment issues, and still haven't found a good one but did find one case where a certain report was cited that sounds interesting. It is entitled, Predicting Social Security Numbers From Public Data, and I don't have time to go through it right now but anyone who wants to can: PDF