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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:36 pm 
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Keywords: Series RG36 of the Family Records, Kew, British National Archives

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The books containing hand written line records of vital events attributed to Obama are contained in Series RG36 of the Family Records section in the Kew branch of the BNA. The hand written line records first discovered in 2009, indicate several events were registered to the name Barack Obama (appears to be handwritten and spelled “Burack” and “Biraq”) beginning in 1953 and include two births recorded in 1958 and 1960, a marriage license registration in 1954 and a birth in 1961. Barack Obama is said to have died in 1982 and had married at least once more in Kenya and had at least one more child in 1968, but no record of these were found in the BNA because, according to the Archives’ desk reference, the events occurred after Kenya achieved independence from British colonial rule in 1963.


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viewtopic.php?f=25&t=8013

Summary: There's nothing to debunk. There's no actual claim buried in the gibberish. Is there?


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:43 pm 
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I don't think The Fogbow bothered to debunk the 'Obama went to Mars' claim.

The latest witterings from The Daily Pen are about on that level. Some things are just too stupid to even bother with.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:44 pm 
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verbalobe wrote:
http://www.thefogbow.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=8013

Summary: There's nothing to debunk. There's no actual claim buried in the gibberish. Is there?


Well...

It's hard to tell ...

The title of the "post" seems to suggest that some "researcher" found some file... I don't know... It's making the round of the forums and I wanna be able to squash it...

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:47 pm 
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:48 pm 
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It is self-debunking.

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The hand written line records first discovered in 2009, indicate several events were registered to the name Barack Obama (appears to be handwritten and spelled “Burack” and “Biraq”) beginning in 1953 and include two births recorded in 1958 and 1960, a marriage license registration in 1954 and a birth in 1961.


Burack and Biraq are different people. Any "events" registered under those names are not "events registered to the name Barack".

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:49 pm 
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twinx wrote:
I don't think The Fogbow bothered to debunk the 'Obama went to Mars' claim.

The latest witterings from The Daily Pen are about on that level. Some things are just too stupid to even bother with.


hahaha... I know I know... I just like to squash all this as soon as I can, and to keep a list of debunked crap, so that when people bring it up I can just say, "debunked"...

I hadn't seen this particular nonsense, and so I thought, who better to ask than Fogbow ;)


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:49 pm 
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That information appears to be accurate, pace the comments above on names belonging to different people.

Barack Obama was born in Kenya in 1934. Died in 1982. Had a couple of marriages and children, etc.

What's to debunk?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:50 pm 
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raicha wrote:
It is self-debunking.

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The hand written line records first discovered in 2009, indicate several events were registered to the name Barack Obama (appears to be handwritten and spelled “Burack” and “Biraq”) beginning in 1953 and include two births recorded in 1958 and 1960, a marriage license registration in 1954 and a birth in 1961.


Burack and Biraq are different people. Any "events" registered under those names are not "events registered to the name Barack".


I saw that... It's hard to know what the claim actually is...

I asked one guy who posted it to distil the gibberish into a coherent claim...


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:51 pm 
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raicha wrote:
It is self-debunking. ... Burack and Biraq are different people.

This ^^

Barack Sr. began to use the name "BARACK" when he was about 6 years old, changed from the Muslim form "Baraka," according to The Other Barack.

He was a highly educated man. He was never confused about how to spell his own name, nor about how to pass on that name to his son.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:51 pm 
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raicha wrote:
It is self-debunking.

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The hand written line records first discovered in 2009, indicate several events were registered to the name Barack Obama (appears to be handwritten and spelled “Burack” and “Biraq”) beginning in 1953 and include two births recorded in 1958 and 1960, a marriage license registration in 1954 and a birth in 1961.


Burack and Biraq are different people. Any "events" registered under those names are not "events registered to the name Barack".


And if you look up the name Burack, it means "Bright One". So, obviously, the names are common. It would be like someone looking up John Johnson and finding records for James Johnson, Jack Johnson, Joseph Johnson, etc. Has absolutely no meaning at all...so a perfect birther non issue.

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Res Ipsa wrote:
That information appears to be accurate, pace the comments above on names belonging to different people.

Barack Obama was born in Kenya in 1934. Died in 1982. Had a couple of marriages and children, etc.

What's to debunk?


"OBAMA’S KENYAN BIRTH RECORDS DISCOVERED IN BRITISH NATIONAL ARCHIVES"


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lies wrote:
"OBAMA’S KENYAN BIRTH RECORDS DISCOVERED IN BRITISH NATIONAL ARCHIVES"


Yes, so?

Lots of Obamas have been born, and continue to be born, in Kenya.

This seems to be yet another instance of people not realizing that Barack Obama's father's name was "Barack Obama", and that he was most certainly born in Kenya.

I mean....

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Barack Obama is said to have died in 1982


Yes, that's the year he died.

I guess I'm missing something here.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:56 pm 
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Some "Obama" Kenyan birth records were discovered in the British National Archives.

But there is no proof that a Kenyan birth record for the President of the United States was discovered in the Archives.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:56 pm 
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Res Ipsa wrote:
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"OBAMA’S KENYAN BIRTH RECORDS DISCOVERED IN BRITISH NATIONAL ARCHIVES"


Yes, so?

Lots of Obamas have been born, and continue to be born, in Kenya.

This seems to be yet another instance of people not realizing that Barack Obama's father's name was "Barack Obama", and that he was most certainly born in Kenya.


I totally get that, but obviously the implication is that it's the President's records.

Anyway, it seems ludicrous and I'll consider it just more retarded birther BS.


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If you wish to debunk it, you have what you need: the records are not the records of the President but are the records of other Obamas.

It doesn't have to be complicated.

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I totally get that, but obviously the implication is that it's the President's records.


Considering the fact that these "records" (which I assume haven't been posted in original form anyway) state that he died in 1982, then I'm sure this will come as a surprise to Michele and the girls.

That is, however, when Barack Obama died.

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Self debunking... I like that.

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Personally, I think you're all still giving too much credence to the Daily Pen's recitation of facts.

The only evidentiary thing in this story that checks out is that Series RG36 does indeed include "Registers and Returns of Births, Marriages and Deaths in the Protectorates etc of Africa and Asia." And you can (obviously) learn that online.

Beyond that, it's all unsupported allegations about what's supposedly *in* that register. Which no one photocopied, or photographed, or scanned, or printed, or even transcribed. They didn't even screenshot the online search results that supposedly produced results for searches of "Obama." We don't even know if the assertion of "hand written line records" is an accurate description of what's in that archive. And we currently have no more evidence that any associate of "Dan Crosby" ever set foot in the British National Archives than we have evidence that Lucas Smith has ever been to Africa.

In other words, everything in that Daily Pen story is 100% consistent with "Dan Crosby" noticing online that the British National Archives has a record for vital records in Kenya circa 1961, and then making everything else up.

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Birthuh, please.

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It may be more constructive to debunk The Daily Pen. They have been caught flat-out making things up (such as Obama's lawyer admitted that the BC was a forgery), altering images, and putting the wrong images up to "prove" their allegations. Doc C has lots of instances.

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/tag/the-daily-pen/

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