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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:50 am 
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Can we just get this clarified, because I have a real hard time finding information on this:

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As I reported earlier, the McCain campaign has declined to publicly release the senator's birth certificate. But a senior campaign official showed me a copy of his birth certificate issued by the "family hospital" in the Coco Solo submarine base. (McCain's grandfather commanded the Coco Solo Naval Air Station in 1936; his father was the executive officer of a submarine based in Coco Solo.)

The birth certificate was signed by Captain W. L. Irvine. I have now checked that name against the Naval Register for 1936, and I find that William Lorne Irvine was director of the medical facility at the submarine base hospital in Coco Solo, Panama Canal Zone, during that time period. You can see the entry here. I think this effectively disposes of any remaining doubts that McCain was born inside the Canal Zone


http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-c ... place.html

I cannot for the life of me believe I am asking this 4 years later.... did the McCain campaign and the RNC release a birth certitificate?

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cannot for the life of me believe I am asking this 4 years later.... did the McCain campaign and the RNC release a birth certitificate?


No they did not. It was only showed to some reporters and they were not allowed photograph it as discussed in the article you linked. The only McCain birth certificate that ever appeared was filed by a plaintiff in one of the eligibility suits against McCain. Doc C did an analysis and it is almost certainly a forgery (and a pretty bad one as I recall). Some of the folks with good memories might recall the case. I am too tired to look right now.

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Reality Check wrote:
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cannot for the life of me believe I am asking this 4 years later.... did the McCain campaign and the RNC release a birth certitificate?


No they did not. It was only showed to some reporters and they were not allowed photograph it as discussed in the article you linked. The only McCain birth certificate that ever appeared was filed by a plaintiff in one of the eligibility suits against McCain. Doc C did an analysis and it is almost certainly a forgery (and a pretty bad one as I recall). Some of the folks with good memories might recall the case. I am too tired to look right now.


I'm still in the battle fields fighting bitherism here RC, but still determined to call out the liars :x

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Wolf wrote:
cannot for the life of me believe I am asking this 4 years later.... did the McCain campaign and the RNC release a birth certitificate?


No they did not. It was only shown to some reporters and they were not allowed photograph it as discussed in the article you linked. The only McCain birth certificate that ever appeared was filed by a plaintiff in one of the eligibility suits against McCain. Doc C did an analysis and it is almost certainly a forgery (and a pretty bad one as I recall). Some of the folks with good memories might recall the case. I am too tired to look right now.


I'm still in the battle fields fighting bitherism here RC, but still determined to call out the liars :x

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You can tell how tired I am "showed". :lol:

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:09 am 
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links for wolfie.

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/bookmark ... igibility/

the fake birth certificate is one of 'em.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:19 am 
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The case was Hollander v. McCain.

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2009/02/ ... a-forgery/

That document was provided originally by a man named Don Lamb, a guy who has long claimed to be the legal representative of the Panama Railroad Company, a position from which he makes spurious assertions regarding the ownership of huge tracts of Panamanian land. Lamb attested by affidavit that the Panama Railroad Company recorded the live birth of John Sidney McCain III in the city of Colon, Panama and provided the certificates as "proof." It is not clear to me what his personal objective was re: the McCain suits. Like Lucas Smith, he appears primarily to have been running an unrelated scam and saw this as an opportunity to buttress his own efforts by strap hanging on the eligibility issue.

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