Dumb like a fox, Abercommie my new hero. The man who brought Rush Limpballs firmly into the Birfer Camp.
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Outstanding plan, outstanding result. May he bring Beck along too.

I'm yappin' about it over in the WND thread.

HONOLULU – Democratic Gov. Neil Abercrombie will end his quest to prove President Barack Obama was born in Hawaii because it's against state law to release private documents, his office said Friday.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110122/ap_on_re_us/us_obama_birth_certificate

I agree with you Foggy. Don't underestimate Abercrombie. I think Abercrombie is playing dumb like a fox. Obama is a Constitutional Law expert's Constitutional Law expert, no? And what do they say about you lawyer types? Never ask a question you don't already know the answer to, right? Abercrombie and Obama already know there's a "long form", "longer form", "original form" somewhere that could be released with Obama's A-OK. This is a deliberate plan to draw all the birthers into thinking and saying Abercrombie is just a dumb old whatever the Hawaiian term is for "hick from the sticks", get the issue all heated up and then Wham!, they're going to hit them with the real deal. The closer to the 2012 Democratic Convention, the better. This is Obama jujitsu, "take the pebble from my hand, grasshopper" shit going on here.

Dumb like a fox, Abercommie my new hero. The man who brought Rush Limpballs firmly into the Birfer Camp.

Once a President has served his 8 years, wouldn't a document like a photo of the Hawaii 1961 micro-fiche at DOH, just become a historical document? How would privacy laws intervene at that point?

If you read Limbaugh's comments, he sounds as though Abercrombie is playing a "head fake" or rope-a-dope with the issue, trying to sucker Obama's opponents into the birther camp only so they can be made to look like fools at some later time. Limbaugh, agree with him or not, is wisely remaining cautious.

Hate to say it, but Abercrombie is off on a fool's errand. If the birfers wouldn't believe GOP Governor Lingle and her appointees, why would they believe him?

Abercrombie drops effort to disclose more information on Obama birth certificate

"There is nothing more that Gov. Abercrombie can do within the law to produce a document," said [spokeswoman Donalyn]Dela Cruz. "Unfortunately, there are conspirators who will continue to question the citizenship of our president."

Why is the State AG being asked to disclose Obama's 'birth documentation?' He isn't the custodian of the records? Actually, he isn't the administrator for HRS338-18(a) or the UIPA either. Of course, privacy laws don't allow him to release birth documentation--he's the state attorney general--not the Director of the Department of Health and he's not an attorney with the Office of Information Practices. Neither the State AG nor the Governor have administrative authority over Obama's vital records. Requests for vital records go to the DIRECTOR of the Department of Health. Hello? Abercrombie is stupid. There's no kind way to say it. The man is dumber than a rock....or he thinks WE are.

Where is the OIP on this matter? Where is the OIP's appeal decision? The people are STILL owed legal decisions from both the HDOH and OIP. If Abercrombie thinks this distraction is going to keep people from demanding their legal rights – he is wrong.

In the last month, Abercrombie has floated a couple of ideas--putting out a forgery and telling people Obama's birth records were *poof* gone. Neither idea was floating too well so like infantile cowards, they decide it's better to convince people that they are too dumb to see the writing on the wall (understand the UIPA) while robbing them of their rights at the same time.

And the dishonest excuse that privacy law prevents them from disclosing anything without Obama's consent just makes Obama look like a bigger baby than ever. What a whiny turd! As if anyone can respect either man. Abercrombie, you and Obama are criminals and you look like a couple of three year olds with your fingers in your ears. Just. Yuck.

He knew that privacy laws would prevent him from releasing the original before he started the ruckus.

I think his plan is what happened -- to give the issue more visibility without "resolving" it, since it's never gonna be resolved.

If Abercrombie really wanted to, he could request to personally inspect the documents, and then craft a legal statement (a la Fukino), e.g., "I've personally seen President Obama's Hawaiian birth certificate, and it says he was born in Hawaii."

If Abercrombie really wanted to, he could request to personally inspect the documents, and then craft a legal statement (a la Fukino), e.g., "I've personally seen President Obama's Hawaiian birth certificate, and it says he was born in Hawaii."

Is that true? I don't believe Gov. Lingle ever said she personally inspected Obama's birth record, but that she assigned the proper party with legal authority to inspect it. I don't know that Governors have that authority themselves. Yesno

If Abercrombie really wanted to, he could request to personally inspect the documents, and then craft a legal statement (a la Fukino), e.g., "I've personally seen President Obama's Hawaiian birth certificate, and it says he was born in Hawaii."

This is from the KQRS morning show from 1/20/2011. Their Hollywood reporter Mike Evans that knows Neil Abercrombie for Governor of Hawaii personally, gave an interesting story about the birth certificate situation

I'm not so sure about that.

Lawful access to the records by their official custodians is one thing. Access by other government officials, even the governor? Not so much. Governor Lingle was pretty explicit that she had not seen the records herself, but instead had Drs. Fukino and Onaka take a look and report back to her. And I would further expect the Director of Health to push back on any request by the governor to do otherwise....

Is that true? I don't believe Gov. Lingle ever said she personally inspected Obama's birth record, but that she assigned the proper party with legal authority to inspect it. I don't know that Governors have that authority themselves. Yesno?

There's a pre-amble where Mike Evans talks about having known Abercrombie for decades, and how Abercrombie has always said he knew Obama as a little kid.

At around the one minute mark:

Mike Evans: "Well Neil promised me that when he became Governor he was going to cut through all the red tape. He was going to get Obama's Birth Certificate once and for all, and end this stupid controversy that he was not born in the United States

Host sniggers:

Mike Evans: Yesterday, talking to Neils office, Neil says that he searched everywhere using his power as Governor, at the Kapiolani Women's and Children's Hospital and Queens Hospital, the only places kids were born in Hawaii back when Barack was born.

There is no Barack Obama birth certificate in Hawaii

Host: Really?

Mike Evans: Absolutely no proof, at all, that he was born in Hawaii.

And so it goes on.

There's a pre-amble where Mike Evans talks about having known Abercrombie for decades, and how Abercrombie has always said he knew Obama as a little kid...

Mike Evans: Yesterday, talking to Neils office, Neil says that he searched everywhere using his power as Governor, at the Kapiolani Women's and Children's Hospital and Queens Hospital, the only places kids were born in Hawaii back when Barack was born.

There is no Barack Obama birth certificate in Hawaii