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Butter A birfer "Investigator" asked Mrs. Sunahara if she would request a BC for Virginia. Mrs. Sunahara said no.

Butter No report on whether or not "Investigator" tried to convince Mrs. Sunahara to do so. She was pretending to be research "infant deaths". I don't know who she could keep up the pretense and twist Mrs. Sunahara's arm at the same time.

Birfers ... they're so sensitive to the feelings of others.

Edit: I thought Investigator was Butterbazillion; I was wrong. See following posts.

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Do we know for certain that Butterditz is the one who went to Hawaii in July 2010. I have seen this person identified as "Researcher" on Pest and Efail and "Interrogator" on Ladyforest's blog.

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I don't believe "researcher/the interrogator " is Butter. The story was posted on Butter's blog.

I think she's probably miki booth.

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I don't believe "researcher/the interrogator " is Butter. The story was posted on Butter's blog.

I think she's probably miki booth.


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Do we know for certain that Butterditz is the one who went to Hawaii in July 2010. I have seen this person identified as "Researcher" on Pest and Efail and "Interrogator" on Ladyforest's blog.


I thought it was BDZ as well until I went back and read her blog about the incident and all the stuff on Ladysforest blog and the same reporting on P&E. I think it was Miki Booth who was the third person on the trip in 2010 and she certainly considered herself a researcher of Hawaiian birth certificates often going to and writing to the DofH officials and others trying to get information out of them. It makes sense that she would take Haskins back to the Sunahara's if she were incommunication with Duncan. I believe she was the one who first came up with the imaginary account of the child's identity being stolen for some reason no one has ever explained. As far as I know, we have seen no one claiming to be Virginia Sunahara and she never had a SS# assigned to her. Now that they know that Obama's bc # and Virginia's are different, they are still trying to make something of the fact that the DoH assigns numbers to the COLB in a pattern we do not recognize from the small sample we have seen.

Remember how shocked Miki was when she realized that Dr. Sinclair was also the one who delivered her son in Hawai'i.

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Remember how shocked Miki was when she realized that Dr. Sinclair was also the one who delivered her son in Hawai'i.


Yeah. I think she spent several months bathing in Lysol to try and remove the Obama cooties.

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Trowbridge: A Birth, A Death, A Point Of Entry For Evil

Executive summary: Sunahara's death certificate is a FAKE!; Doc C. is an idiot.

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Trowbridge: A Birth, A Death, A Point Of Entry For Evil

Executive summary: Sunahara's death certificate is a FAKE!; Doc C. is an idiot.



Martha has been a little over the top lately. The birfers are starting to get suspicious.

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We now must question how Martha found a person named Bari Shabazz in the first place. She then traced him to streets close to where Malcolm X lived in New York, found a video showing a gal she has identified as Bari’s mother, purported to know that the child was brought up in a presidential palace, and then found obscure traffic tickets in Hawaii. Oh Martha, please show us the documents that you base your stories upon…you know the ones where you proved that Barack Obama was really Bâri′ M. Shabazz. Show us the documents that prove he was sent to live with Indonesia’s President Sukarno.

The person we really want to have identified is Jo Ann Newman and her whereabouts! Do you have some hospital documents in your possession as proof of your findings? We do so want to welcome Bâri′ Shabazz into the fray of Obama’s convoluted history as the pride and joy of the hateful, convicted felon, radical revolutionary, and anti-American, Malcolm X.

Has Martha been testing the waters for a reaction to what might be the truth of Obama’s background? Is Martha an Obot who is trying to further muddy the murky waters of Obama’s history? Did Martha help raise an enemy of the state? Is it you, Martha, that chose a path for little Bâri′ and yourself that you now regret? So many questions, so few definitive answers.

It’s time for Martha to get a reality check or to fess up! Is Martha the keeper of the real terrible truth? The Terrible Truth might set you free.

Who are you really, Martha? Is your name, Jo Ann?


http://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2011/12/27 ... as-abused/

There are others who are beginning to wonder. For example:


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Correction: I took the small amount of time to look up some information on Martha Trowbridge an it ain’t good. I found: Martha Trowbridge Radio, LLC provides inspirational, practical programming for women, in a variety of domains. With empathic inspiration for women who suffer emotional and mental agonies, The Martha Trowbridge Radio Hour focuses upon depression, trauma, complicated grief, betrayal, victimization, post-traumatic stress disorder, self-erosion, degradation, profound shame, perceived powerlessness, loneliness, and struggles with self-esteem and self-actualization.

I know think this is all a fake story of fiction. Keep that in mind as your read it. I think is is a distraction to help deter the public from the the fact obama claims to be a natural born citizen but is not therfore he is a usurper fraud president that should not have ever been on the ballot for president.

As I said above the Martha Trowbridge story is not valid and is as fake as obama’s US citizenship status as a natural born citizen. Obama’s BC is fake as is his SS number but MS Trowbridge’s story is from her fiction writing.) Record Master


http://obamarecords.com/?tag=fiction-by ... silly-girl


8-) Martha needs to dial it back a little.

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The Department of Health is (not unexpectedly) moving to dismiss this case.

A hearing on the Motion to Dismiss is scheduled in front of Judge Nishimura for 8 March 2012 at 0930.

The Motion to Dismiss is available on my Scribd site, and I'm sure it will be up on Jack Ryan's in the near future.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/79284831/Suna ... to-Dismiss

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Very well written. :-bd

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Very well written. :-bd

Practice makes perfect. I know what it says without having to read it.

Edit: Is this case also before Judge Nishimura?

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I was expecting an exegesis on the meaning of the word "or." :lol:


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Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Reality Check wrote:
Very well written. :-bd

Practice makes perfect. I know what it says without having to read it.

Edit: Is this case also before Judge Nishimura?


Yes. Lucky her.

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Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Practice makes perfect. I know what it says without having to read it.

Edit: Is this case also before Judge Nishimura?


Yes, it is, which raises a question. The attorney representing Sunahara appears to be a "hired gun" with no stake in birferism, but who practices locally in Honolulu and may likely appear again in front of Judge Nishamura. I would expect he'll draft a workmanlike opposition to the motion, but beyond that, how likely is he to do more if the motion is granted?

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I would expect he'll draft a workmanlike opposition to the motion, but beyond that, how likely is he to do more if the motion is granted?

Depends how willing Haskins is to open the checkbook.

Meaning: The attorney won't pull a Taitz and move for reconsideration (of the denial of reconsideration, etc.). But it is doubtful he'll file an appeal without getting paid (again).

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This motion was filed at 1:54 PM HAST today and Mike posted it here at 3:43 PM HAST.

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This motion was filed at 1:54 PM HAST today and Mike posted it here at 3:43 PM HAST.

Fear the Fogbow. 8-)


:oops: Nah. Just happened to be in the right place at the right time. Scanner is being balky. I'll get the other stuff I got up tomorrow (nothing earth-shattering in that mix), just some of the backlog from Wolf.

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Now at Jack's also. Too.

Sunahara v HI DOH, et al, - Motion to Dismiss

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I am glad to see Hawaii drew the line on this and told Dean and Duncan to go piss up a rope.

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Haskins claims Sunahara's birth certificate was commandered to allow for Obma's fake BC. Since it doesn't have the same number, what does Haskins mean, wasn't going to provr Sunahara's BC was stolen by Obma, now how did a one day old Obama steal it. What a silly case, does Haskin's have mental issues? What is his major BREAKTHROUGH?


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Haskins claims Sunahara's birth certificate was commandered to allow for Obma's fake BC. Since it doesn't have the same number, what does Haskins mean, wasn't going to provr Sunahara's BC was stolen by Obma, now how did a one day old Obama steal it. What a silly case, does Haskin's have mental issues? What is his major BREAKTHROUGH?


His breakthrough? That's easy. Dean learned a brand new word. That's such an unusual event as to determine a new birthing strategy and command the assent of all right-thinking birthers to the new strategy.

In this case, the word was apparently "or".

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Turns out the word "or" IS the key to this case. Was Dean right about something??

MtD at III.A., page 4 wrote:
Section 338-13 establishes the Director's authority to choose the process by which copies
of vital records are made.
  1. Subject to the requirements of sections 338-16, 338-17, and 338-18, the department
    of health shall, upon request, furnish to any applicant a certified copy of any certificate,
    or the contents of any certificate, or any part thereof.
  2. Copies of the contents of any certificate on file in the department, certified by the
    department shall be considered for all purposes the same as the original, subject to the
    requirements of sections 338-16, 338-17, and 338-18.
  3. Copies may be made by photography, dry copy reproduction, typing, computer
    printout or other process approved by the director of health.
Section 338-13, HRS (emphasis added).

The word 'or' is such a wonderful word, don't you think? When, um, read intelligently?
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Haskins claims Sunahara's birth certificate was commandered to allow for Obma's fake BC. Since it doesn't have the same number, what does Haskins mean, wasn't going to provr Sunahara's BC was stolen by Obma, now how did a one day old Obama steal it. What a silly case, does Haskin's have mental issues? What is his major BREAKTHROUGH?


Essentially, Haskins' theory is that Barack Obama stole the identity of Virginia Sunhara because the birth and death records were not cross referenced. So he wanted to prove they had the same number I mean had different numbers and he want to use Duncan to get access to a copy of the vault colb because he believes that will prove that Obama stole this baby girls identity.

If this makes no sense you have correctly understood the argument.

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richRocket wrote:
Haskins claims Sunahara's birth certificate was commandered to allow for Obma's fake BC. Since it doesn't have the same number, what does Haskins mean, wasn't going to provr Sunahara's BC was stolen by Obma, now how did a one day old Obama steal it. What a silly case, does Haskin's have mental issues? What is his major BREAKTHROUGH?


Essentially, Haskins' theory is that Barack Obama stole the identity of Virginia Sunhara because the birth and death records were not cross referenced. So he wanted to prove they had the same number I mean had different numbers and he want to use Duncan to get access to a copy of the vault colb because he believes that will prove that Obama stole this baby girls identity.

If this makes no sense you have correctly understood the argument.


Assuming for a moment that birfers actually believe their own BS and are honestly convinced that the long form released by the President's office is a computer generated forgery, I still wonder if their real motive isn't just to get a look at the vault copy of any birth certificate issued very near the time of Barack Obama's birth. They might honestly be convinced that the vault copy is going to look materially different from what's been released, thereby "proving" forgery.

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