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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:57 pm 
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Orly hangs out with the NICEST people NOT!

http://webapps6.doc.state.nc.us/opi/off ... &obscure=N

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Incarceration Status: INACTIVE Total Incarceration Term: 25 YEARS
Conviction Date: 04/28/1987 Projected Release Date: 08/03/1996
Primary Crime: RAPE SECOND DEGREE (PRINCIPAL) Primary Crime Type: FELON
Special Characteristics: REGULAR Current Status: N/A
Admission Date: 04/30/1987 Admitting Location: CENTRAL PRISON
Control Status: REGULAR POPULATION Next Control Review: UNKNOWN
Custody Classification: MEDIUM Next Custody Review: UNKNOWN
Current Location: LOCATION UNKNOWN Previous Location: ROCKINGHAM CC
Last Movement : TERMINATED PAROLE Last Movement Date: 07/11/1996


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INITIAL 86050801 RAPE SECOND DEGREE (PRINCIPAL) FELON CLASS D
CONSOLIDATED FOR JUDGMENT 00000000 INDECENT LIBERTY W/CHILD (PRINCIPAL)


Funny someone who can't vote filing an Elections challenge.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:08 pm 
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Great find, mimi.

Just another prime example of a birther. And a perfect clientplaintiff for Orly.

and obviously quite a match for Mr Fitchgibbon:
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Vestal began his pro se legal career claiming that during his incarceration at Davidson Correctional Center in Lexington, North Carolina, he was subjected to cruel and unusual punishment and that his First Amendment right to religious freedom was violated because he was denied his request to visit his terminally ill grandmother.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:11 pm 
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And one wonders ... does this felon have voting rights?

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And one wonders ... does this felon have voting rights?


With those convictions, he probably has to register and check-in as a sex offender. Britty, do they have that list on-line in NC for all the parents to check?

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And one wonders ... does this felon have voting rights?


I think he does.

A quick Googling indicates that North Carolina automatically restores the right to vote once the felon is free and clear of incarceration and parole.

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We do, not sure what the requirements were though when he was convicted in 1987, they have become much stricter since then. I searched the NC Registry and he does not show up.

http://sexoffender.ncdoj.gov/search.aspx

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And one wonders ... does this felon have voting rights?


With those convictions, he probably has to register and check-in as a sex offender. Britty, do they have that list on-line in NC for all the parents to check?


North Carolina created its registry after the date of Vestal's conviction and sentencing.
http://sexoffender.ncdoj.gov/about.aspx

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Thanks Raicha - obviously why he is not showing up.

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I'm thinking of changing the name of this thread to "Convicted Rapist Threatens NC Elections Board".

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From the Dec 22 Meeting Agenda:

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That's not Orly and Vestal is it? Something else? You think you'll make it there Foggy?


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I'm thinking of changing the name of this thread to "Convicted Rapist Threatens NC Elections Board".

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Do you suppose O'rly or a FM has checked here and seen his criminal and judicial record? Would it matter to her?

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I'm thinking of changing the name of this thread to "Convicted Rapist Threatens NC Elections Board".

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How about "Orly Taitz Helps Convicted Rapist Threaten NC Election Board"?

SEO and all that jazz....

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raicha wrote:
I'm thinking of changing the name of this thread to "Convicted Rapist Threatens NC Elections Board".

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Do you suppose O'rly or a FM has checked here and seen his criminal and judicial record? Would it matter to her?


Yes.

No.

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I'm thinking of changing the name of this thread to "Convicted Rapist Threatens NC Elections Board".

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"Child molester" might be more accurate.

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I'm thinking of changing the name of this thread to "Convicted Rapist Threatens NC Elections Board".

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"Child molester" might be more accurate.


No, it wouldn't. He was convicted of rape in the 2nd degree. Rape of a person under 13 is 1st degree.

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Yes, but :

INITIAL 86050801 RAPE SECOND DEGREE (PRINCIPAL) FELON CLASS D
CONSOLIDATED FOR JUDGMENT 00000000 INDECENT LIBERTY W/CHILD (PRINCIPAL)
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I don't even see where that language is on the link Britty gave.

I'm not willing to characterize this any further than I have.

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raicha wrote:
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raicha wrote:
I'm thinking of changing the name of this thread to "Convicted Rapist Threatens NC Elections Board".

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"Child molester" might be more accurate.


No, it wouldn't. He was convicted of rape in the 2nd degree. Rape of a person under 13 is 1st degree.


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INITIAL 86050801 RAPE SECOND DEGREE (PRINCIPAL) FELON CLASS D
CONSOLIDATED FOR JUDGMENT 00000000 INDECENT LIBERTY W/CHILD (PRINCIPAL)


So what is "indecent liberty with child?"

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So what is "indecent liberty with child?"


Since I don't know and there are no details, I'm going with the fact of his principal conviction.

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Do you suppose O'rly or a FM has checked here and seen his criminal and judicial record? Would it matter to her?

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Will be back with the full text of the indecent liberties statute in a mo, in the meantime what follows is a draft of an e-mail to the NC State Bar person in charge of Unauthorized Practice of Law please let me know your thoughts on changes, corrections, etc., etc., etc.

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Dear Mr. Johnson:

I am not sure if you are aware of the above referenced attorney who is well known as "Queen of the Birthers" and who is constantly filing lawsuits against President Obama in her quest to have him removed from office for various reasons. In any event she is currently soliciting clients in North Carolina (where she is not licensed to practice) asking her "prospective" clients to write to the NC Elections Board to allow her to represent them there.

This of course would be funny (and generally myself and many others who follow her antics do it for the pure entertainment value). However Orly frequently crosses the line when she is told "no" by someone and it then becomes a vendetta against that person. Don Wright, General Counsel for the NC State Board of Elections recently responded to a request from one Danny Vestal (a convicted rapist no less) that not only could an out of state attorney represent him but that there was no case to pursue.

What follows is Orly's response to him (clipped from her website which should not be visited without the most stringent anti-virus software in place. )

"Dear Mr. Wright,
I am a licensed attorney in the state of CA. Mr. Danny Vestal asked me to assist him. I am not filing a legal action against you, Elections Board and Secretary of State in either state or federal court yet, I am simply providing you with some clarifications and requesting a hearing."

"5. I demand an immediate hearing for me and for Danny Vestal to appear before the Secretary of State or the elections board and provide all the evidence, Mr. Obama can provide his rebuttle and a decision has to be made, if he can be on the ballot in N.C. primary. If this is not done, than you are criminally complicit in elections fraud, forgery, uttering of forged identification documents by Obama, obstruction of justice, misprision of multiple felonies and possibly treason, and a criminal complaint will be filed with all the proper agencies against you, elections board and the Secretary of state in due time."

I am aware that threatening criminal action is a violation of the California Rules of Professional Conduct as I am sure it is in NC. While I am sure that Mr. Wright can handle Orly (as he has so ably done so far) I thought you should be aware of Orly's activities. She has just made a complete fool of herself before the elections board in New Hampshire and is now cluttering up the State Supreme Court there with a frivilous "appeal" (which is not allowed for under any interpretation of the rules). My concern is here that if Orly does not get her way she will begin littering our courts here in North Carolina with frivilous pleadings which are going to overstretch even further a court system that is suffering from budget constraints and packed courtrooms.

I believe that this sort of activity on the part of Orly Taitz should be "nipped in the bud" so to speak so that she is not allowed to continue to harass our dedicated public servants and eventually our over burdened court system.

Thank you for your assistance

Sincerely

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§ 14‑202.1. Taking indecent liberties with children.
(a) A person is guilty of taking indecent liberties with children if, being 16 years of age or more and at least five years older than the child in question, he either:
(1) Willfully takes or attempts to take any immoral, improper, or indecent liberties with any child of either sex under the age of 16 years for the purpose of arousing or gratifying sexual desire; or
(2) Willfully commits or attempts to commit any lewd or lascivious act upon or with the body or any part or member of the body of any child of either sex under the age of 16 years.
(b) Taking indecent liberties with children is punishable as a Class F felony. (1955, c. 764; 1975, c. 779; 1979, c. 760, s. 5; 1979, 2nd Sess., c. 1316, s. 47; 1981, c. 63, s. 1, c. 179, s. 14; 1993, c. 539, s. 1201; 1994, Ex. Sess., c. 24, s. 14(c).)


http://law.justia.com/codes/north-carolina/2009/Chapter_14/GS_14-202_1.html

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I don't even see where that language is on the link Britty gave.

I'm not willing to characterize this any further than I have.


It was on the second page of the link.

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So what is "indecent liberty with child?"


Since I don't know and there are no details, I'm going with the fact of his principal conviction.


Works for me. It's an inflammatory enough offense that caution is probably prudent.

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§ 14-202.1. Taking indecent liberties with children


(a) A person is guilty of taking indecent liberties with children if, being 16 years of age or more and at least five years older than the child in question, he either:

(1) Willfully takes or attempts to take any immoral, improper, or indecent liberties with any child of either sex under the age of 16 years for the purpose of arousing or gratifying sexual desire; or

(2) Willfully commits or attempts to commit any lewd or lascivious act upon or with the body or any part or member of the body of any child of either sex under the age of 16 years.

(b) Taking indecent liberties with children is punishable as a Class F felony.



See WD beat me to it :)

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