LIBERTY LEGAL FOUNDATION, et al. v NDP of the USA, INC., et al. (USDC AZ)

bob · **Posted:** Fri May 11, 2012 1:58 pm

TexasFilly wrote:

Come on people, everybody knows the footnotes are always the best part!

True, but it isn't sporting to bury the truffle. The pig may be blind....

TexasFilly · **Joined:** Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:52 pm **Posts:** 10651

bob wrote:

TexasFilly wrote:

Come on people, everybody knows the footnotes are always the best part!

True, but it isn't sporting to bury the truffle. The pig may be blind....

Oh, let's not get into the squirrel and the acorn thing again. :lol:

See, it's kinda like the Texas Bar Journal. It still comes monthly, in a magazine format. Every lawyer I know goes to the "Disciplinary Actions" first (you know, to see if anyone you know is in there). The most satisfying is when you see one of your former idiotic adversaries in there. But this is Texas, where the Grievance structure may not be lightning fast, but it actually exists.

kimba · **Joined:** Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:24 pm **Posts:** 6633

My favorite word of the whole thing is "panoply". :xo

Piffle · **Posted:** Fri May 11, 2012 6:07 pm

Sterngard Friegen wrote:

This seeks sanctions under Rule 11, F.R.Civ.P. The defendants can also seek sanctions under 28 U.S.C. sec. 1927, which doesn't have a "safe harbor" provision.

Beginning with the first line in their brief, defendants are taking the 1927 tack as well as the Rule 11 approach.

This judge is on the record as having already engaged in pushing back Venn Aryan's unconscionable attempts at chicanery. VennMan ain't gonna slide out from under this one cheaply, IMO.

realist · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm **Posts:** 23559

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AnitaMaria · **Joined:** Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:41 pm **Posts:** 2113

I know that Orly Taitz is far too stupid and far too rich to be deterred by the possibility of writing a big check to the Democratic Party, but I hope that Mario Apuzzo sees this in his future if he pursues this BS theory in his NJ ballot challenge.

Piffle · **Posted:** Fri May 11, 2012 6:36 pm

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Thanks realist. Yeah, I did miss that link. And, hardly surprisingly, the attachments say what I inferred, i.e., that Venn Aryan was properly put on notice.

Tarrant · **Joined:** Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:05 pm **Posts:** 757

Even if Van Irion escapes sanction for the redundant arguments, I hope they slap him silly for the sham defendant. To me, that's an absolute abuse of the judicial process, particularly after he doubled down and insisted he still be granted a default against the sham organization even after being put on notice that it wasn't the Democratic Party. That's wholly and completely unethical for an officer of the court.

Sterngard Friegen · **Posted:** Fri May 11, 2012 6:43 pm

TexasFilly wrote:

Come on people, everybody knows the footnotes are always the best part!

I concur.

realist · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm **Posts:** 23559

Sterngard Friegen wrote:

TexasFilly wrote:

Come on people, everybody knows the footnotes are always the best part!

I concur.

I agree with Stern. :lol:

Suranis · **Joined:** Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:04 am **Posts:** 5248

*checks the Mayan prophecies again"

GreatGrey · **Posted:** Fri May 11, 2012 9:34 pm

Page 7 --- TISDALE!

Sterny and I told youse guys to remember that one.

allison · **Posted:** Sat May 12, 2012 11:47 am

Wow. I cannot believe we are coming up on another election and these lunatics are still at it. I was watching C-SPAN this morning and a caller was going on about the FEMA camps- of course that made me think of you all, so I had to check in and say hello. Papa Axe keeps sending me on these no contact assignments- but I am happy to report that all is in place for the Summer and- more importantly- for November and beyond! It's going to be a really exciting year.
And the Mitt thing worked out just as we had planned! No surprise there.

Can't wait till he announces his VP!

Glad to be back in the world and on contact status again!

realist · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm **Posts:** 23559

allison!!!

Great to hear from you! :-bd

If you poke around a bit while you're here you'll see it's still crazy out there.

And those morons STILL don't understand "standing". ](*,)

viewtopic.php?f=24&t=300&start=23825#p375949

:hug:

allison · **Posted:** Sat May 12, 2012 12:06 pm

Wow. They really have zero learning curve. Just wow. And I see Orly is back on the "fraudulent social security numbers" argument now that the "long form" birth certificate was released. Ugh. I knew that would not help! We all knew- it looks really good, though!

June bug · **Posted:** Sat May 12, 2012 12:17 pm

Allison! Welcome back!!!!! :hug:

Nice to see you're out of deep cover, at least for a little while. The birthers continue to entertain - glad you're here to enjoy it with the rest of us.

majorbabs · **Posted:** Sat May 12, 2012 12:24 pm

allison wrote:

Wow. I cannot believe we are coming up on another election and these lunatics are still at it. I was watching C-SPAN this morning and a caller was going on about the FEMA camps- of course that made me think of you all, so I had to check in and say hello. Papa Axe keeps sending me on these no contact assignments- but I am happy to report that all is in place for the Summer and- more importantly- for November and beyond! It's going to be a really exciting year.
And the Mitt thing worked out just as we had planned! No surprise there.

Can't wait till he announces his VP!

Glad to be back in the world and on contact status again!

Glad you were able to pop in. :hug:

Birtherism is like a soap opera, you can miss a month or two and come back and see very little has changed since you last watched. And like a soap opera, birtherism has all kinds of unbelievable plot twists and turns.

allison · **Posted:** Sat May 12, 2012 12:25 pm

I just cannot really believe they are still at it! I guess all the preparations Team 6 has been doing for HQ are actually going to be needed after all. Some of you may recall the internal battle at HQ over a certain contingency 2013 plan that some of us thought was quite unnecessary! Who knew? (Well, Jimbot and Papa knew!)

*sigh*

They are always right.

MaineSkeptic · **Joined:** Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:48 pm **Posts:** 5295

Allison!!

Plutodog · **Posted:** Sat May 12, 2012 4:41 pm

Allison? Sounds vaguely familiar... :lol:

WB, Allison!

A Legal Lohengrin · **Joined:** Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:56 pm **Posts:** 9369

MaineSkeptic wrote:

Allison!!

Dittoes.

PatGund · **Posted:** Sat May 12, 2012 11:41 pm

allison wrote:

And I see Orly is back on the "fraudulent social security numbers" argument now that the "long form" birth certificate was released. Ugh. I knew that would not help!

Considering she's talked about gallows of late, ti think the only thing Dr. Orly wants at this point is to see President Obama hanging at the end of a rope.

realist · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm **Posts:** 23559

Docket Update...

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U.S. District Court
DISTRICT OF ARIZONA (Phoenix Division)
CIVIL DOCKET FOR CASE #: 2:11-cv-02089-SRB

Liberty Legal Foundation et al v. National Democratic Party of the USA Incorporated et al
Assigned to: Judge Susan R Bolton
Cause: 28:2201 Declaratory Judgment

Date Filed: 10/25/2011
Jury Demand: Plaintiff
Nature of Suit: 360 Personal Injury: Other
Jurisdiction: Federal Question

05/15/2012 29 ORDER dismissing Defendant National Democratic Party of the USA Incorporated. Signed by Judge Susan R Bolton on 5/15/12. (DMT) (Entered: 05/15/2012)

AnitaMaria · **Joined:** Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:41 pm **Posts:** 2113

Venn Aryan is outraged--OUTRAGED--at the DNC's motion for sanctions against him:

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Last week the DNC filed a motion for sanctions against me. They accuse me of an “inexcusable attempt to perpetrate a fraud on the Court.” They claim that I colluded with unnamed members of the Tennessee Republican Party to name a sham organization so that LLF could get a default judgment against a defendant with “Democratic” in its name. They also accuse me of asserting frivolous legal claims.
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The truth is that we still don’t know who set up the NDPUSA. It could be a scam perpetrated by the Tennessee Republicans, or the Tennessee Democrats, or someone else completely. We simply don’t know. That is why we wanted to get a default judgment against this organization. A default judgment would have forced the organization to show up in court, or accept the judgment and injunction against them. If they are working with the DNC, a default judgment would have effectively prevented them from certifying Obama. If they’re not working with the DNC, then the NDPUSA wouldn’t have cared about the default judgment.

But here’s the really interesting part: the DNC shouldn’t care about the NDPUSA or a judgment against the NDPUSA. If the NDPUSA truly has nothing to do with the DNC, then a judgment against it will have no effect on the DNC. So, why does the DNC care? We don’t know. That is why we wanted to get a default judgment against the NDPUSA.
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My ability to continue practicing law is being threatened. My ability to continue advocating for the Constitution is under attack. We need your support now more than ever.
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So, the request for default was a good faith attempt to flush out the people behind the NDPUSA. :roll:

More at the link: http://libertylegalfoundation.org/1942/ ... van-irion/

Tarrant · **Joined:** Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:05 pm **Posts:** 757

Mr. Van Irion, is your goal to figure out who is behind this random organization known as NDPUSA, or is your goal to have a judgment on whether or not the Democratic Party has a duty to verify the NBC status of its candidate, like your briefs say? You consistently say in your posts that it is the latter; if that is true, then "Who is behind the NDPUSA" should be irrelevant - you've been told repeatedly that the correct defendant is the DNC, they're now a party to the case, and you can move forward. The fact that you still to this day are almost quadrupling down on this NDPUSA thing is more evidence than ever that this lawsuit is simply a sham suit to get a judgment - even a fake one - against an entity with "Democratic Party" in its name, so you could parrot it all over the country to smear the actual Democrats.

Any argument that the actual Democratic Party shouldn't care if a fake organization also called the Democratic Party gets a judicial judgment against it saying Barack Obama cannot be certified for the ballot is absolutely ridiculous.

Go away.

Falsehoods unchallenged only fester and grow.

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