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PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:48 am 
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Montgomery Blair Sibley Files Birther Lawsuit, Is Running For President On D.C. Voting Rights Platform

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On Tuesday, Sibley filed suit in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia against President "Barrack" Obama. The misspelling is ironic given the nature of the suit.

The suit seeks a judgment "ousting Obama as President of the United States and/or preventing him from holding the franchise of being on the ballot for that office in 2012 insomuch as he is not a 'natural born Citizen' of the United States as required by Article II, sec. 1, of the U.S. Constitution." In the suit, Sibley presents the evidence that he is a natural-born citizen, and is eligible to be president. He is asking for a jury trial.


a bunch more:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/0 ... 90420.html

Here's the pdf for the suit:
http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/sibley.pdf


As I recall, Sibley was also Larry Sinclair's lawyer at one point.

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It's the guy in the kilt (because his package takes up too much space in regular pants).

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As I recall, Sibley was also Larry Sinclair's lawyer at one point.


Sinclair and Palfrey. Kilt wearing loonie!

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Did I fail to mention that he has some allegedly large junk that can't be contained by normal pants?

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Did I fail to mention that he has some allegedly large junk that can't be contained by normal pants?


That video is posted at the HuffPo link. :roll:

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It's the guy in the kilt (because his package takes up too much space in regular pants).
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Did I fail to mention that he has some allegedly large junk that can't be contained by normal pants?
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TMI?

Folks at TheRegulator should have tons of stuff on Sibley.

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IANAL, but I don't think this one is going anywhere. Did you look at it? The suit, I mean.

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Wonder what Justin is up to these days. :-

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IANAL, but I don't think this one is going anywhere. Did you look at it? The suit, I mean.

One of Orly's FAILS in 2010 was a request for the USDC for the DC to issue a writ of quo warranto against President Obama to determine his eligibility for office. Orly's bestest friend Royce Lamberth signed the order denying it. This suit will probably end in the same fashion except Judge Lamberth's ears will be spared some screeching.

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bwahahaha

According to his pleadings, he's on a "watch list" and had to be escorted by U.S. Marshals while in the building. :lol:

What a great presidential candidate. =))

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Jack has this on up at his Scribd.

Ex Rel Sibley v Obama

Petition for Writ of Quo Warranto and Mandamus

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He's just trying to get some attention to sell more copies of his book to the gullible

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Oh, uncle, I like your new avatar! Mrrrrrowww!

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Oh, uncle, I like your new avatar! Mrrrrrowww!

As soon as the court stops LIAO, what will happen?


The same thing that always happens...

He's already been disbarred, so no worry for him there, but I do believe he's still got a stack of bills he needs to pay off so having nothing to lose I give it a 30% chance he'll amp up the crazy to try to get more money coming his way.

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He's just trying to get some attention to sell more copies of his book to the gullible


How sad to come from a family that contributed so much to American history -- and to end up such a failure and a laughingstock.

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How sad to come from a family that contributed so much to American history -- and to end up such a failure and a laughingstock.


What, you're not giving him credit for the Leonidas statement, and acknowledging that his campaign will be as epic and important as the stand at Thermopylae? :lol:

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Welcome back, Uncle Spike!

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Blair and Sibley -- both families are old-line Washington blue-bloods with histories of public usefulness. It's sad to see the debauched "scion" reduced to silliness like this.

Just as I hope that the Georgia Alabama court will throw Orly out at the door on Monday for not being a licensed attorney in 'Bama, I hope this Court will nip this in the bud -- at least the part about his bringing quo warranto as a relator. Because the relator in a quo warranto action represents, in part, the United States, I've long maintained that non-attorneys (of which disbarred attorneys are a subset) cannot act as relators pro se. Judge Lamberth ignored this aspect in handling Orly's quo warranto debacle (but then again, the government never moved for her disqualification either).

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About the district judge: I consider Amy Berman Jackson a personal friend and a truly brilliant attorney. She's been on the bench less than a year and I haven't taken time out to follow any or her cases, but this is one woman who knows the law, loves the law and writes exceedingly well. However, this case is not likely to pose much in the way of an intellectual challenge to her.

Edit: Fixed the state names above. h/t to Stern for reporting my blunder to the proper authorities (i.e, me). Other misc. edits.

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Someone correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Sibley suspended for 3 years in 2008 rather than disbared ?

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Someone correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Sibley suspended for 3 years in 2008 rather than disbared ?


Yup, I think you're right. But the DC Bar currently lists him as suspended for disciplinary reasons:

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Montgomery B. Sibley

Membership Status: Suspended
Reason for suspension: Disciplinary suspension.
Disciplinary history: Yes
Date of admission: September 13, 1999

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Just as I hope that the Georgia Alabama court will throw Orly out at the door on Monday for not being a licensed attorney in Georgia, I hope this Court will nip this in the bud. Because the relator in a quo warranto action represents, in part, the United States, I've long maintained that a non-attorney (including, of course, a disbarred attorney) cannot act as a relator pro se. Judge Lamberth ignored this aspect in handling Orly's quo warranto debacle (but then again, the government never moved for her disqualification either).


The Ninth Circuit agrees. Stoner v. Santa Clara County Office of Educ., 502 F.3d 1116, 1127 (9th Cir. 2007) (in a qui tam context). So, as far as I know, does every other Circuit Court of Appeals that has addressed the issue. Stoner cites the Second, Seventh and Eighth. The Eleventh appears to have followed suit.

I don't see why the analysis would be any different in a federal quo warranto proceeding, which like the False Claim Act (allowing federal qui tam), is also statutory in nature. The analysis seems to be that a relator never has a stand-alone cause of action personal to herself that can be separated from the origin of the relator's standing (the nominal plaintiff), and that a non-attorney cannot represent the interests of another. Makes sense to me.

I'm not entirely sure this is consistent with the common law origin of quo warranto, but it doesn't have to be. The statute clearly abrogated any contradictory common law authority. I'd be surprised if there were any such authority, though. Qui tam is short for qui tam pro domino rege quam pro se ipso in hac parte sequitur, which means who pursues this action on our Lord the King's behalf as well as his own. "[O]n our Lord the King's behalf" clearly indicates representation of the interests of another.

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Someone correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Sibley suspended for 3 years in 2008 rather than disbared ?

Yes, and he's still suspended. In Florida, too.

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Someone correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Sibley suspended for 3 years in 2008 rather than disbared ?


From April, 2008, the Florida bar suspended him for 3 years. It does not show that he has been re-instated however.

http://www.floridabar.org/names.nsf/0/6 ... enDocument

Click on 'yes' to see the court order.

No results for the DC bar membership.

http://www.dcbar.org/find_a_member/results.cfm

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