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Listen to the live report


Wow thanks for that. Even got a glimpse of Taitz in the background!

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Listen to the live report


Wow thanks for that. Even got a glimpse of Taitz in the background!


Someone is going to be spending time in a FEMA camp.... :evil:

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Wow thanks for that. Even got a glimpse of Taitz in the background!


Is that CEL III she's with? Is all forgiven?

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HORNBECK v SALAZAR (E.D. LA)
SUMMARY OF MOTION TO INTERVENE HEARING OF ORLY TAITZ
HELD MAY 11, 2011


AS REPORTED BY BUTTERFLY BILDERBERG

For those of you who have problems with viewing a Scribd document I am going to paste the summary here as well.

HORNBECK v SALAZAR
MOTION HEARING MAY 11, 2010

AS REPORTED BY BUTTERFLY BILDERBERG


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This matter was heard today before Judge Magistrate Wilkinson in the Eastern District of Louisiana.
I arrived at the courtroom at about 10:45 a.m. The clerk asked me to sign in. Everyone was being asked to sign in so they would know who was there. I did state I was not there to make an appearance.
Orly was there, seated in the second row. As I approached the gallery area she leaned over and asked me if I was one of the counsel in the Hornbeck case. I indicated that I was not, I was simply here on behalf of one of the agencies as an observer. I did not say what party I was observing for.
Throughout the period before the hearing actually began, Orly would occasionally stare at me. Seated behind her were two supporters who showed up. It was a well dressed couple seated directly behind Orly. Occasionally she would lean back and whisper in conversation with them. The husband was wearing a brown subtle check or plaid sport jacket. The wife was wearing black slacks and a leopard print blouse and flip flops. Orly was in the same striped black suit that she had worn for the Ninth Circuit, with a black blouse.
As everyone entered the courtroom, Orly would ask them if they were there for the Hornbeck case. Hornbeck was not the only matter being heard, so occasionally people would say no, I'm here for something else.
Eventually a gentleman in a dark suit came in. He did answer affirmatively that he was there for the Hornbeck matter but didn't give any specifics. The gentleman was Carl Mansfield from the Department of Justice. After Mr. Mansfield can signed in Orly walked over and spoke to him and he introduced himself.
Another gentleman came in and I later learned that he was counsel for Hornbeck Offshore Services, LLC, Mr. Rosenblum.
The proceedings started promptly at 11:00 a.m. Judge Wilkinson called the Hornbeck case first, and he indicated that he was doing this because no oral argument had been scheduled, but because his staff had learned that Ms. Taitz had flown in all the way from California for oral argument he was going to hear the matter.
He indicated that he had his clerk call counsel for the other parties and ask them to appear. They had come over on very, very short notice for an oral argument that had never been scheduled.
The judge told Orly, "In the future, I need to tell you, you need to study the local rules."
Orly went first. She was trying to desperately, I think, in her argument, tie this to the Hornbeck case and tailor it to the case at hand and drilling. She stands up in her first argument and said, "Hornbeck is much more than a case on deep water drilling. It's about the administration, the federal government," and then she said something to the effect that the very foundations of the, or the legitimacy of the, government and all the actions it takes are riding on this.
About 90 seconds into the argument her cell phone went off, so she rushed back to the gallery area and got it out of her purse and stopped the ringing. The Court admonished her that she was not supposed to have a cell phone, and then Mr. Rosenblum said, "That's another local rule."
Then she continued, "I have developed an expertise in constitutional and eligibility law. I have have been prosecuting this matter for the last three years to courts around the country.
The Magistrate stopped her and said, "It's my understanding you have a case pending in another court. She says yes, in the Ninth Circuit. I argued that last week.
Then she pulled out her gigantic exhibit. She didn't have an exhibit stand, so she stood, holding it, and tried to point, which forced her away from the microphone occasionally, so she could not be heard.
She begins pointing to this and doing basically the same argument she made to the Ninth Circuit. Obama has been using a selective draft registration that's invalid, because it was an invalid Social Security number. And she went on for a couple of minutes about that, and then the Magistrate interrupted her again and then said, "Aren't these the same things that you attached to your motion"?
"Yes," she says.
He says, "I've already seen them."
She says "Well, you've seen some of them but there's one you haven't, and then she points to the birth strict that Obmama released and she starts talking about that, and then she says, "Obama calls people like me carnival barkers, but I've had numerous document experts look at this," and then she goes on about her document experts, that this is an invalid birth certificate, it was pieced together from different things, and that Mr. Obama is basically trying to fool the public with this.
Then the judge, who again wants to direct back to the argument the issues that concerns them says, "Did I understand you argued to the Ninth Circuit? Did you present these to the Ninth Circuit"?
She said, "Some of these I did, but this birth certificate came later, and I didn't.
"Did you do this before or after his birth certificate was released?"
And she said it was after the birth certificate was released, so the judge says, "Is this all before the California court"?
She says, "No, it's the Ninth Circuit."
"Well, what did the district judge do"?
So she starts into this long response, that was not responsive, and he interrupts again and says, "Just tell me in one word."
She does not answer with one word. She starts again going into all this stuff about this was about subject matter, and I had all these plaintiffs, and so forth, and finally she gets to the answer that it was dismissed.
At this point her cell phone goes off again, in the middle of her exchange back and forth with the Magistrate, so the Magistrate again advises her that the rules are that you are not even allowed to bring a cell phone into the courtroom. And he admonishes her and says, "Anyone who has one, we can confiscate these."
She turns off her cell phone and then the judge states, "This is a federal court. If the Ninth Circuit does not have jurisdiction don't you think this court does not have jurisdiction"?
So she tries then to distinguish this case from the Ninth Circuit case. She says this is different because this case has damages.
Then she again launches into the birth certificate, and she's pointing to the birth certificate and the Magistrate says, "You have 2 more minutes."
She says, "This is a birth certificate of a woman who was born a few hours after Obama," and she points to all these different distinguishing features. You can see how, this woman, the paper was turning yellow, there's a distinctive border, she was born at such and such a time, and the doctor signed it as such and such a time, and this number is a lower number than Obama's. She points out some things about Obama's and she says, "This is unbelievable," referring to the Obama birth certificate.
Then she says, "There has to be an emergency hearing on this," referring to an emergency hearing on Obama's birth certificate, and she says, "This is clearly a forgery."
Now she's holding up the exhibit again and pointing to different things, and then she goes into, if you open this up in Adobe Illustrator you can see lots of layers. He might have used his sister Maya Soetoro's birth certificate.
She then concludes with, "I feel this is an assault on the system of justice in this country," and she wrapped up her argument. She argued for about 10 minutes.
At that point then Mr. Mansfield stood up and he basically said our arguments are on our papers. We're going to basically rest on submission.
Then Mr. Rosenblum stood up and said, "On behalf of the plaintiffs we're pretty much going to rest, but I do want to correct one statement by Dr. Taitz. "Hornbeck has never sought monetary damages. If we wanted monetary damages we would have to go to the Court of Claims. All that was sought here was a preliminary injunction. We got the preliminary injunction. A lot of water has gone under the bridge since then."
At that point the Magistrate kind of joked with Mr. Rosenblum and he said, "Are you sure you want to say 'water under the bridge'"?
Well, no, this was last summer."
And the judge says, "Well, water under the bridge"?
And Mr. Rosenblum says "Well, you know," and goes on a couple of minutes, and then finally Mr. Rosenblum gets the joke, and he goes, "Oh, yeah, with all the water these days maybe that's not a good choice of words."
Mr. Mansfield spoke for almost 10 seconds.
Mr. Rosenblum spoke for about one minute.
Then the judge indicated that because this was an oral argument that had not been scheduled he was not going to make a ruling today, so he took it under advisement.
All the parties rested and the proceeding concluded at 11:15 a.m.
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Sorry for the delay.

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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 1:56 pm 
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Well, I'm gettin' worried that realist has had another "episode". :cry:


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Can we start a contribution pool to pay for this transcript purchase? It looks worth it to me!

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So she got her way again.

Outstanding. :evil:

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Shit. What alternate universe do I

<cell phone goes off>

live in? I follow the rules in my cases and no judges ever

<cell phone goes off again>

give me any slack. How can the worst lawyer in the world keep on getting away with it, without consequences? I feel as if

<cell phone goes off again -- "Not now, Orly, I'm busy!">

I'm in an episode of Fringe meets Groundhog Day.

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Sounds like the end result is that Orly, without bothering again to study local rules, gets to fly in on her broomstick and smear our President in another courtroom without any consequences whatsoever.

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Summary: Once again, Orly repeatedly violates the rules of court, gets away with it, causes enormous inconvenience to other attorneys and wastes court time and taxpayer money with her bullshit. And I'm glad her well dressed supporter wore flip flops!

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I'm dying to know what the court reporter did with the two cellphone interruptions. They must be in the record since she was admonished for them. What about Rosenbaum's snide remark? Transcript-worthy?

So jealous of BB for being able to check out the live action! And thankful, as always, to both her and realist for the outstanding reporting work.

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AS REPORTED BY BUTTERFLY BILDERBERG
Sorry for the delay.
Enjoy. :-bd


Thank, you, thank you!

Dr Obly NEVER disappoints!

Why the heck do they let her skate by the local rules?

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Thank you, thank you, Butterfly Lady. A most excellent job, to say the least!

Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Shit. What alternate universe do I

<cell phone goes off>

live in? I follow the rules in my cases and no judges ever

<cell phone goes off again>

give me any slack. How can the worst lawyer in the world keep on getting away with it, without consequences? I feel as if

<cell phone goes off again -- "Not now, Orly, I'm busy!">

I'm in an episode of Fringe meets Groundhog Day.


'Zactly. I used to believe that if I went into a friggin' court and babbled and dissembled and broke all the rules of civility and procedure that bad things would happen. You know, reprimands, sanctions, orders to show cause, referrals to the bar...stuff like that.

Silly me. The tiger has no teeth.

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Why did Orly sit down in the courtroom?
Lack of standing

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From the judge's questions to her about the same issues being before other courts, already decided and appealed pending a decision in another, what would you guess his ruling will be? Is there a rule against venue shopping?

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Okay.... which one of you guys kept calling Orly's cell phone?

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Is the number she has on her Web site her cell number? I ask because there are a bunch of people in the "Disbar Orly Taitz" Facebook group who have decided to call her and basically ask her why she's such a bitch. I wonder if it was some of them.

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Piffle wrote:
'Zactly. I used to believe that if I went into a friggin' court and babbled and dissembled and broke all the rules of civility and procedure that bad things would happen. You know, reprimands, sanctions, orders to show cause, referrals to the bar...stuff like that.


Well IANAL, but I speculate that those bad things would happen to you, Piffle, because it would not be obvious to everyone in the courtroom that you were a complete lunatic.

And thanks, BB, for a great job!!

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Is the number she has on her Web site her cell number? I ask because there are a bunch of people in the "Disbar Orly Taitz" Facebook group who have decided to call her and basically ask her why she's such a bitch. I wonder if it was some of them.


Well, you could call it and find out.

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Is the number she has on her Web site her cell number? I ask because there are a bunch of people in the "Disbar Orly Taitz" Facebook group who have decided to call her and basically ask her why she's such a bitch. I wonder if it was some of them.


Well, you could call it and find out.



ewww. Then I'd have O'rly cooties on my phone ...

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Is the number she has on her Web site her cell number? I ask because there are a bunch of people in the "Disbar Orly Taitz" Facebook group who have decided to call her and basically ask her why she's such a bitch. I wonder if it was some of them.


Rikker's gonna need a link.

Also, great thanks to the BB and the realist!

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The report is longer than I anticipated... have patience please.


I guess this would be a bad time to call my boyfriend with fascinating stories of new coupons I found and the cat's epic battle with a stink bug? :-

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From the judge's questions to her about the same issues being before other courts, already decided and appealed pending a decision in another, what would you guess his ruling will be? Is there a rule against venue shopping?


The rejection of her motion is a foregone conclusion, obviously. The judge was merely looking for a good hook to hang his rejection order on, and the fact that she's slopped her crap all over the docket of some other court is a pretty good one, as well as many others.

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