Syria - Stepping into the Void

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Post by RTH10260 » Fri Aug 25, 2017 4:01 pm

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YouTube Removes Videos Showing Atrocities in Syria
By MALACHY BROWNEAUG. 22, 2017

In an effort to purge extremist propaganda from its platform, YouTube has inadvertently removed thousands of videos that could be used to document atrocities in Syria, potentially jeopardizing future war crimes prosecutions, observers and rights advocates say. :snippity:
Depending where a court may be seated in unknown future time, the clips may have some documentary value. As evidence they will not be worth much as they seldom can be used to identify a perpetrator, and to locate a person a decade later with such images will hardly be possible. Also the videographer will generally not be able to tell his story how he made this video, posting mostly under an alias and neither cannot be located.



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Post by Suranis » Fri Aug 25, 2017 4:16 pm

"Machine Learning"?? Oh fuck. Thats a disaster waiting to happen. It will learn the wrong thing and will be manipulated by organized trolls like a musical instrument once they figure out how to manipulate its learning algorithm

Fucking Youtube. They have been automating their content flagging system for years and its been a total screwup... but its cheap so hey.


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Post by Addie » Thu Sep 07, 2017 6:19 pm

WaPo
United Nations accuses Syrian government of April sarin attack

BEIRUT — United Nations investigators formally accused the Syrian government Wednesday of using the banned nerve agent sarin in a deadly chemical weapons attack in April that left dozens of civilians dead and hundreds more wounded.

The daybreak attack, the investigators said in a report, was one of more than 20 government assaults involving chemical weapons since March 2013, most of them targeting families with no part in the conflict.

The United Nations Commission of Inquiry on Syria is tasked with investigating alleged war crimes that have taken place during the six-year conflict. But it has no capacity to prosecute any party, underscoring the geopolitical constraints that hamstring the world’s response to the war.

The commission’s report marked first time that a U.N. body has explicitly accused the Syrian government of using sarin, a chemical that pushes the nervous system into overdrive and can kill in minutes.


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Post by RTH10260 » Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:14 am

US is 'playing with fire', Turkey warns
By Euronews
last updated: 15/01/2018
Turkey claims the US is 'playing with fire' over plans to set up a border force on the Syrian frontier.

Turkey has warned the US-led coalition is ‘playing with fire’ over its plan to set up a new border force made up of 30,000 of its Syrian militia allies.

Washington’s support for Kurdish-dominated forces in Syria has long angered Ankara.

"Just like we do not let the separatist terror organisation Kurdistan Workers' Party or PKK operate within our borders, we are also determined to vanquish them on the other side of our border. God willing, in the coming days, we will continue the operation to purge our southern border from terror, for which the first step was taken with the Euphrates Shield military operation, with the Afrin region of Syria, which is under Kurdish control," Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said.

Erdogan’s spokesman labelled the latest developments 'worrying' and 'unacceptable'.

A statement from the foreign ministry reiterated the sentiment and condemned the what it called the US’s persistently ‘incorrect’ approach, adding that it was 'determined and able to eliminate all kinds of threats'.

Russia, which backs Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s forces in the civil war, has said 'a zone controlled by US-backed rebels' could lead to Syria being divided up.

http://www.euronews.com/2018/01/15/us-i ... rkey-warns



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Post by Suranis » Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:54 pm

So how does the thought of a firefight with Turkish Troops grab you? Turkey is pepping to attack the Kurds in a town with American Troops in it. The last time the Americans drove out flags flying and the Turks back down. This time, they say, they are not backing off. Ergoden is such a Stable Genius!

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-42704542
Turkey says it is getting ready to launch a massive assault on Kurdish forces on the other side of the border with Syria - potentially putting it in direct conflict with its Nato ally, the United States.

...

Ankara has condemned the US for supporting the YPG and was alarmed when it emerged on Saturday that the coalition was helping it form a 30,000-strong "border security force".

While Turkey has long threatened to clear YPG fighters from the Kurdish enclave of Afrin, in north-western Syria, and Manbij, a mainly Arab town to the east, the news appears to have brought those plans forward.

A day after vowing to stop the US "creating a terror army on our border", Mr Erdogan declared on Tuesday that Turkish troops and allied Syrian rebels would soon destroy "nests of terror".
Whole article worth a read.


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Post by neeneko » Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:05 pm

Suranis wrote:
Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:54 pm
So how does the thought of a firefight with Turkish Troops grab you? Turkey is pepping to attack the Kurds in a town with American Troops in it. The last time the Americans drove out flags flying and the Turks back down. This time, they say, they are not backing off. Ergoden is such a Stable Genius!
I was wondering when this was going to happen. Trump has been vocally pro-Ergoden and anti-Kurd, so it was only a matter of time till Turkey decided to test this shift in friendship.

Though Turkey has to be really careful here, since if they push too quickly and actually injure American soldiers public opinion could snap on them quickly.. and since American soldiers stationed in Kurdish areas typically have pretty good working relationships with the locals, the chance of something going wrong is high.



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Post by Volkonski » Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:12 pm

Oh great, Trump is going to get us into a war with Turkey.


The New York Times

@nytimes

An armed conflict between the U.S. and pro-Turkish forces may be brewing in northern Syria. Our reporters went to see for themselves.
http://
nyti.ms/2C2Ro2F

7:03 PM - Feb 7, 2018
Actually, on behalf of my Greek ancestors, I say go for it! Create a rump Turkey around Ankara. Give the eastern part of Turkey to the Kurds and the Armenians. Give western coastal Turkey to the Greeks. :thumbs:

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Post by RTH10260 » Fri Feb 09, 2018 9:50 am

A big SNAFU for the USA
Syrian war spirals as US kills 100 Assad troops
Richard Spencer, Beirut
February 9 2018, 12:01am, The Times

There were airstrikes on the rebel-held eastern Ghouta near Damascus yesterday — after fighting between American soldiers and President Assad’s troops elsewhere in the war-torn country

American warplanes and coalition ground forces have opened fire on President Assad’s soldiers, killing more than a hundred in defence of a secret base occupied by US and British troops that they believed was about to come under attack.

The incident is the most serious confrontation yet pitting Kurdish and American soldiers against those of the Assad regime, which is funded and armed by Russia and Iran.

There were unconfirmed reports that Russian “contractors” and Iranian revolutionary guards were also active in the vicinity; a sign of America’s growing competition for influence with the regional powers.


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/syri ... -wwshsd3tk
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Post by RTH10260 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:21 am

Unsure about the quality of the reporting website, but:
That's the real Figure of Russian fatalities by US-Led International Coalition raids of Deir al-Zour
12 Feb, 2018 23:44 Syria

Western media sources revealed the deaths of hundreds of Russian special forces and the Wagner-supported mercenaries in the bombing of US-led coalition aircraft in Deir al-Zour a few days ago.

"Some 215 Russian mercenaries were killed last week in Syria, most of whom are believed to have been killed in the US raid on a convoy of Russian and Iranian militias trying to advance toward positions of the US-backed militias in Deir al-Zour," the Devins Post reported.

The site says: "The death toll was calculated through Russian social networking sites." There were recordings via Whatsapp for Russian mercenaries belonging to Wagner and taking part in the Russian war on Syria.

Russian website "Viche1" reported details about the process of targeting the fighters jet of the International Alliance a military convoy containing Russian soldiers, where it said that the number of Russian fighters was about 530 killed, more than 182 were killed in raids.


http://nedaa-sy.com/en/news/4235



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Post by RTH10260 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:49 pm

US special forces 'operating illegally in Syria', Sergey Lavrov tells euronews
By Euronews
last updated: 16/02/2018

Russia's Foreign Minister tells euronews US special forces show no sign of leaving Syria.


Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov claims US special forces are illegally operating in Syria. In an exclusive interview with euronews, he said the soldiers are there to support the Kurds. It comes amid reports of Russian mercenaries being killed by US special forces in Syria.

"They have been there consistently for two or three years - almost for the whole period that the Washington-led coalition has worked in Syria and all this time the US special forces and other units are in Syria on the ground, illegally, without any invitation from Damascus, or without any mandate of the UN Security Council", he said.

Lavrov said the US forces show no sign of leaving.

"It is clear that the US probably have such a strategy to settle in Syria forever, with its armed forces, just as they want to do in Iraq and Afghanistan, despite all promises made. And so when they settle forever in Syria, which they are already doing now, and despite all promises, they isolate a huge piece of the Syrian territory, in infringement of the sovereignty of the Syrian Arab Republic, and create there some kind of quasi-local authority. And in every possible way try to create there an autonomous unit with the support of the Kurds."


http://www.euronews.com/2018/02/16/excl ... s-euronews



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Post by Suranis » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:30 pm

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-43131600
Syria war: Pro-government forces enter Kurdish-held Afrin

Syrian pro-government forces have entered the Kurdish enclave of Afrin, provoking an immediate response from Turkish forces besieging the area.

The government was asked for military help by a Kurdish militia that has been trying to repel an offensive by Turkish troops and allied Syrian rebels.

Fighters were seen passing through a checkpoint in armoured vehicles.

Turkish troops then shelled the area and Turkey said it had forced the pro-government fighters to retreat.

Turkey had threatened to confront government forces if they intervened, raising the prospect of direct conflict between two of the main players in Syria's civil war.

The development comes as:

Syrian government warplanes continued to bombard the besieged rebel-held Eastern Ghouta region outside Damascus, reportedly killing dozens of civilians a day after strikes left more than 120 dead
The government's ally Russia acknowledged that dozens of its citizens were killed or wounded in a recent armed clash in Syria - an apparent reference to a confrontation this month with US-backed forces in Deir al-Zour
Yes its Assad Vs Erodgen in the battle of the biggest dickhead.

in other news.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43125506
Russia admits dozens of Russian casualties in Syria battle

10 minutes ago

Russia's foreign ministry has confirmed that "several dozen" Russian citizens - not regular soldiers - were killed or wounded in a recent battle in Syria.

The statement did not give a date. Previously the Russian government said "probably five" Russians had died in a clash in Deir al-Zour province.

Some reports have said more than 100 Russian mercenaries were killed in US air strikes on 7 February.

Russia does not divulge firm details of "volunteer" fighters in the conflict.

What does Russia say?

The latest Russian statement said no Russian regular forces had been involved in a "recent armed clash".

The foreign ministry spoke of "several dozen" citizens from Russia and other ex-Soviet republics, who have been killed or wounded. It said the injured are undergoing medical treatment at a number of hospitals.

"It has been pointed out that certain Russian citizens in Syria have arrived there of their own free will and for different reasons. The foreign ministry does not have the authority to assess the validity and legality of their decisions," it added.


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Post by RTH10260 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:59 pm

Suranis wrote:
Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:30 pm
:snippity:
in other news.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43125506
Russia admits dozens of Russian casualties in Syria battle

10 minutes ago

Russia's foreign ministry has confirmed that "several dozen" Russian citizens - not regular soldiers - were killed or wounded in a recent battle in Syria.

The statement did not give a date. Previously the Russian government said "probably five" Russians had died in a clash in Deir al-Zour province.

Some reports have said more than 100 Russian mercenaries were killed in US air strikes on 7 February.

Russia does not divulge firm details of "volunteer" fighters in the conflict.

What does Russia say?

The latest Russian statement said no Russian regular forces had been involved in a "recent armed clash".

The foreign ministry spoke of "several dozen" citizens from Russia and other ex-Soviet republics, who have been killed or wounded. It said the injured are undergoing medical treatment at a number of hospitals.

"It has been pointed out that certain Russian citizens in Syria have arrived there of their own free will and for different reasons. The foreign ministry does not have the authority to assess the validity and legality of their decisions," it added.
The numbers that get quoted from parties in the conflict suggest like 300+ mercenaries got killed. Quite a job for the US to bomb the ammassed fighters. I seem to remember that a Moscow ministery released a message saying that Putin was not amused by this US hit-and-run.

PS. while I quietly believe he didn't mind that post-war there were some fighters less to care with once they decide to return and start in-fighting with Russia in those far away provinces.



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Post by Foggy » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:17 pm

... Putin was not amused ...
Putin has a problem. He can only use the pee hookers tape once. He has to save it for a special occasion. :daydream:


... and how does that make you feel?
What is it you're trying to say?
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