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Post by wavey davey » Tue May 08, 2018 8:10 pm

Sugar Magnolia wrote:
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wavey davey wrote:
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I haven’t seen this anywhere:



Is this no longer true? How could a police officer, a traffic officer no less, not have known this? Unbelievable.
How is it possible? Easy, hire morans for cops. That's actually the policy in some departments. Remember the guy who didn't hired as a cop because he was too smart? I think it might have been in New York or New Jersey a few years back.
Or possibly, hire normal people who may or may not know every single, municipal, local, county, state and federal law that might be applicable in any circumstance, in a town of 5,000, which has a police force of 17 officers and one K-9.
Yes, there is a large body of knowledge there, and not likely anyone would know all the details. But given that, wouldn't this idiot cop have thought perhaps she should call into the station for clarification? That seems a heluva lot more reasonable course of action than putting the poor girl in cuffs, hauling her off to jail and presenting her with a $800 bail fee, which if she was not able to pay, she was going to have to sit in jail for weeks awaiting trial. I mean come on.



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Post by Sugar Magnolia » Tue May 08, 2018 8:12 pm

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We have driven many times in Canada, and I've seen Canadian cars here. We are not that far from the Canadian border, but far enough away not to be in that 100-mile ICE zone. I never knew the driving in each other's country could be a problem.
Ought not to be a problem in this day and age. Usually an International Drivers License is required. That booklet essentially translates specific fields of the license into some other language so that different formatted licenses can be correctly interpreted. It is surely unusual that a cop thinks they have identified a fake license when the person matches the license and the car details indicate and identify a foreign automobile. What I don't understand in this case is why the cop didn't get info from the dispatcher or ask a superior along.
There is no such thing as an international drivers license. It's an international driving permit and the only thing it does is translate your home country license and it is only used in a specific list of countries with different languages. Canada and the US both use English. The IDP isn't a license, it is a translation tool and must be carried along with your legally issued license. FL is the only state that has ever required an IDP for EVERY foreign license holder, regardless of native language, and that law was repealed. Getting a fake driver license is relatively cheap and easy, and there's nothing on the ID that identifies a vehicle in any way.



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Post by Sugar Magnolia » Tue May 08, 2018 8:23 pm

wavey davey wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 8:10 pm
Sugar Magnolia wrote:
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wavey davey wrote:
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How is it possible? Easy, hire morans for cops. That's actually the policy in some departments. Remember the guy who didn't hired as a cop because he was too smart? I think it might have been in New York or New Jersey a few years back.
Or possibly, hire normal people who may or may not know every single, municipal, local, county, state and federal law that might be applicable in any circumstance, in a town of 5,000, which has a police force of 17 officers and one K-9.
Yes, there is a large body of knowledge there, and not likely anyone would know all the details. But given that, wouldn't this idiot cop have thought perhaps she should call into the station for clarification? That seems a heluva lot more reasonable course of action than putting the poor girl in cuffs, hauling her off to jail and presenting her with a $800 bail fee, which if she was not able to pay, she was going to have to sit in jail for weeks awaiting trial. I mean come on.
SOP in most small towns on a major interstate, at least in the south, is that you go to jail for any traffic violation that will be over a certain amount. She was initially stopped for speeding, not the DL. The Judge has since made a statement to the effect that the girl's understanding of being held for trial was incorrect. Once she posted her bond, just like anyone else would have to do, she was free to leave. All charges against her have since been dropped, they are expunging the record and her bail has been refunded.

There were lots of time when out-of-state drivers were booked for traffic violations here. It keeps them from going home to Michigan or wherever and not paying the ticket. They post bond, go home and just forfeit the bond. As for calling in to the station, the dispatchers don't have any idea what the laws are, and a supervisor would probably have the same training the officer did. GA is a minimum standards state so they all go through the same academy training.

I'm not trying to excuse the officer's actions at all, I'm just saying there is more to it than her being an idiot. I've made similar mistakes in the past due to ignorance of some esoteric law and it got sorted out, just like this did, with nothing more than some hurt feelings, wasted time, and red faces. Thank god mine were all pre-internet though or I might have been shared 30,000 times as the idiot cop who picked on the poor foreigner.



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Post by RTH10260 » Mon May 14, 2018 10:29 pm

Prison guards behaving badly
Former inmate bitten by police dog files $500,000 lawsuit against Columbia County
Updated 3:01 AM; Posted 1:41 AM

By Maxine Bernstein mbernstein@oregonian.com
The Oregonian/OregonLive

The first known use of an attack dog to bite an inmate to get him out of his jail cell in Oregon amounts to an excessive use of force, a federal lawsuit filed Monday alleges.

The dog bit the inmate's thigh and left arm, pulled him to the ground and continued to tear at his arm inside a locked cell at the Columbia County jail in St. Helens last Aug. 1.

The six sheriff's deputies involved waited about six weeks to file any reports on the cell extraction and when they did included "false and misleading'' information that contrasted with images from body cam video, the suit alleges.

Former inmate Christopher Bartlett filed the civil rights lawsuit in U.S. District Court in Portland against Columbia County and the deputies. He seeks $500,000 in damages.

He alleges that the dog attack amounted to assault and cruel and unusual punishment in violation of the Eighth Amendment.

"The defendants knew that their conduct was wrong and conspired to 'sweep it under the rug,' and make it appear as if the attack had never happened,'' attorney Jacob Johnstun wrote in the suit.


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Post by RTH10260 » Mon May 14, 2018 10:31 pm

No criminal charges in case of inmate bitten by police dog while in jail, DA says
Updated Mar 14, 2018; Posted Mar 14, 2018

By Everton Bailey Jr. ebailey@oregonian.com
The Oregonian/OregonLive

The Columbia County District Attorney says criminal charges won't be filed in connection with a deputy who sent a patrol dog into a county jail cell last summer to bite an inmate who wasn't complying with staff's orders.

A review of the evidence in the case showed K9 handler Deputy Ryan Dews and other deputies used a reasonable amount of force against Christopher Bartlett on August 1, District Attorney Jeff Auxier said in a February memo to Sheriff Jeff Dickerson.

Bartlett, 47, was bitten on the arm by Lars, a 3-year-old Belgian Malinois, because he wouldn't follow deputies' instructions when they were moving Bartlett from a temporary holding cell in one jail block to another cell in a high-security unit, Dickerson told The Oregonian/OregonLive in December.


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Post by DejaMoo » Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:54 pm

Cops Lose Qualified Immunity After Arresting Man For A Snarky Facebook Comment
Three cops have just had their qualified immunity stripped by an appeals court for turning an innocuous, snarky Facebook comment into an arrest. It wasn't all the officers' fault. A "helpful" citizen playing internet telephone forwarded the comment to someone who happened to be married to a police officer and everything went from bad to worse to unconstitutional from there.
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Medlin then forwarded the screenshot to two other cops and they all decided to find Ross and arrest him when they started their next shift. This was handled as badly as possible by all three officers. Ross was approached at work by a plainclothes officer presenting himself as a customer. When he stepped out from behind the counter to speak to this person, he was arrested.

Ross attempted to explain himself but was instead read his Miranda rights and taken to the station. There, he wrote a statement explaining his snarky response to the Facebook post. This should have ended everything. Even the cops felt they had nothing to pin on Ross. Nevertheless…
According to Ross, several officers at the station told him they did not think the case was likely to go any further than the prosecuting attorney’s office. However, Ross was not allowed to leave. He was held at the Jackson Police Station until the next day, during which time he was served with a warrant for “Peace Disturbance.” The next day, he was transferred to the Cape Girardeau County Jail where he was held for another two to three days, until he bonded out by paying $1000 in cash. At some point during that period, Ross was formally charged with the class B misdemeanor of “Peace Disturbance” under Mo. Rev. Stat. § 574.010(1)(c) (2015).
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This unconstitutional situation was further aggravated by the officers refusing to listen to anything Ross had to say until they had booked him and then deciding -- after coming to the conclusion charges likely wouldn't be pursued by the DA -- to charge him anyway and keep him locked up until he made bail.



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Post by RTH10260 » Wed Aug 01, 2018 11:10 pm

Bluffton police officer resigns after using excessive force. It wasn’t his first time
BY LANA FERGUSON
August 01, 2018 03:53 PM

A police officer who showed a pattern of using excessive force — and was hired by the Bluffton Police Department last year while on probation with the Beaufort County Sheriff’s Office — resigned in early July, days after an internal investigation found he did not properly de-escalate an incident in Old Town and subsequently lied to investigators.

Since September 2015, Johnathon Bates, 38, had been investigated four times for the way he dealt with citizens. Three of those incidents involved Bates physically pulling or shoving a handcuffed, intoxicated man, according to Bluffton Police and Sheriff’s Office files.

Two of the four investigations found Bates in violation of department policies.

Bates, who had been with the Bluffton department since July 2017, submitted his handwritten resignation July 6, according to his personnel file.


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Post by RTH10260 » Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:07 pm

Alameda County Sheriff’s Office secretly recorded juvenile, attorney, video reveals
Megan Cassidy Aug. 20, 2018 Updated: Aug. 20, 2018 9:53 p.m.

The Alameda County Sheriff’s Office illegally recorded at least one confidential conversation between a juvenile crime suspect and his attorney, the county public defender’s office said Monday, and an exchange between two sheriff’s officials captured on video suggests that the practice may have been routine.

The allegations that the agency made recordings that violated the attorney-client relationship were laid out in a motion filed Monday in Alameda County Superior Court by the public defender’s office, and are supported by a body-camera video obtained by The Chronicle.

In the video, a sheriff’s sergeant appears to say he’s made a habit of recording privileged conversations at the Eden Township Substation in San Leandro since January.

The revelations have prompted the Sheriff’s Office to open an internal investigation into the matter. Meanwhile, the Alameda County district attorney’s office has thrown out the case that involved the allegedly illegal recording of a juvenile, and is reviewing every juvenile criminal case submitted by the Sheriff’s Office this year, according to a spokeswoman.


https://www.sfchronicle.com/crime/artic ... 170239.php
Alameda County DA: ‘Dozens’ of youth cases being reviewed in fallout from sheriff’s recording
Megan Cassidy Aug. 21, 2018 Updated: Aug. 21, 2018 5:57 p.m.

The Alameda County district attorney’s office is reviewing “dozens” of juvenile cases dating back to January following revelations that the county Sheriff’s Office recorded at least one confidential conversation with a youth suspect and his attorney, a prosecutor said Tuesday.

The announcement comes a day after The Chronicle published a video of a sheriff’s sergeant suggesting he routinely recorded juvenile crime suspects having private legal discussions with their attorneys at a substation in San Leandro.


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Post by RTH10260 » Fri Aug 24, 2018 6:45 pm

The day after his birthday, the deputy told other cops about his interest in child porn
BY DAVID J. NEAL
August 23, 2018 09:30 PM
Updated August 23, 2018 10:44 PM

When Palm Beach Sheriff’s Office detectives tracked the child pornography tip from social network Tumblr, they didn’t need to go far to confront the suspect at his place of work Wednesday: the Palm Beach County Sheriff’s Office.

Deputy Kurt Castaldo, who turned 46 Tuesday, turned into a defendant Wednesday, charged with five counts of child pornography possession, one count of obscene communication for transmitting child pornography, one count of directly promoting a sexual performance by a child and one count of using a two-way device to facilitate a felony.

Castaldo remains in Palm Beach County jail on no bond


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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:34 pm

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/courts/ ... an-edwards
Jurors find cop who killed 15-year-old Jordan Edwards guilty of murder

A Dallas County jury found the former Balch Springs police officer who killed 15-year-old Jordan Edwards guilty of murder Tuesday.

Roy Oliver, 38, was found not guilty, however, on two counts of aggravated assault for firing his rifle into a car full of teens as they left a house party last year.


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Post by TexasFilly » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:57 pm

Amazing! I wonder if it helped that his partner (who he claimed was endangered by the car) testified that he never felt threatened? Look for the Dallas Court of Appeals to find some kind of reversible error.


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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Tue Aug 28, 2018 6:38 pm

https://www.texastribune.org/2018/08/28 ... urder/amp/
Police officers are almost never convicted of murder. Body cameras may have made the difference in this Texas case.

The body camera footage changed everything from the beginning.

The day after police officer Roy Oliver fatally shot 15-year-old Jordan Edwards in April 2017, the Balch Springs police said the car of unarmed teens leaving a party was moving aggressively toward officers when Oliver fired into it. But the next day, after the chief saw the video, he walked back the statement and acknowledged that the car was moving away from police.

Oliver was quickly fired and charged with murder. During his eight-day trial, which held closing arguments Monday, the footage from the cameras clipped to the chests of Oliver and his partner was played repeatedly and touched almost every piece of evidence brought forward by the Dallas County District Attorney’s Office.

Jurors watched videos and detailed frame-by-frame comparisons that showed the officers peacefully responding to a house party before gunshots rang into the night, prompting them to dash from the house up the street. They heard Oliver’s partner yell for the car driven by Edwards’ brother, Vidal Allen, to stop as it slowly backed onto the intersecting street, and they saw Oliver fire five rounds into the vehicle as it was moving away from the officers.


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Charges against off-duty Dallas police officer who allegedly shot a man in his apartment could be changed from manslaughter to murder when the case is presented to a grand jury, prosecutor says. https://abcn.ws/2Qjs1lm


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Cause it was mentioned elsewhere
Border Patrol agent arrested, accused of killing 4 women and kidnapping a 5th
By Paulina Dedaj | Fox News

A Border Patrol agent was arrested early Saturday after allegedly killing four women -- believed to have been prostitutes -- and kidnapping a fifth, officials say.

Juan David Ortiz, an intel supervisor for the Border Patrol, was found about 2 a.m. when state troopers tracked him to a hotel parking lot in the border city of Laredo, Texas. He was found hiding in a truck.

Officials say they were alerted about the 35-year-old Ortiz after a fifth woman allegedly escaped from him and notified authorities.

Despite withholding information surrounding the killings, including the victims’ identities, Webb County Sheriff Martin Cuellar said investigators have "very strong evidence" that Ortiz is responsible for the deaths of the four women. Cuellar said investigators believe heacted alone.



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an intel supervisor for the Border Patrol
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Jim wrote:
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When will it ever end???

TWEET SHARE EMAIL Police K9 relieved of duty after killing dog at Bacon Fest
But can you really blame the police dog for attacking a [dog named] Bandit?



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vic wrote:
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When will it ever end???

TWEET SHARE EMAIL Police K9 relieved of duty after killing dog at Bacon Fest
But can you really blame the police dog for attacking a [dog named] Bandit?
That's Bandit discrimination. We MUST stamp out discrimination in all forms!



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Post by Volkonski » Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:10 pm

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BREAKING: Dallas Police chief has fired Police Officer Amber Guyger "for her actions" in the killing of Botham Jean. http://NBCNews.com


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Volkonski wrote:
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So much news today!

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BREAKING: Dallas Police chief has fired Police Officer Amber Guyger "for her actions" in the killing of Botham Jean. http://NBCNews.com
In her arrest affadavit, Guyger told investigators she mistook Jean's apartment for her own and thought she was being burglarized. She lived in the unit directly below Jean in South Side Flats in Dallas and moved out this month.

Lawyers for the Jean family have called the affadavit "self-serving" and said it contradicts accounts from neighbors in the apartment complex.
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Post by Somerset » Mon Sep 24, 2018 4:34 pm

RTH10260 wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 2:55 pm
Volkonski wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:10 pm
So much news today!

https:// twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1044255421173813248
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BREAKING: Dallas Police chief has fired Police Officer Amber Guyger "for her actions" in the killing of Botham Jean. http://NBCNews.com
In her arrest affadavit, Guyger told investigators she mistook Jean's apartment for her own and thought she was being burglarized. She lived in the unit directly below Jean in South Side Flats in Dallas and moved out this month.

Lawyers for the Jean family have called the affadavit "self-serving" and said it contradicts accounts from neighbors in the apartment complex.
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Somerset wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 4:34 pm
RTH10260 wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 2:55 pm
Volkonski wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 12:10 pm
So much news today!

https:// twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1044255421173813248

In her arrest affadavit, Guyger told investigators she mistook Jean's apartment for her own and thought she was being burglarized. She lived in the unit directly below Jean in South Side Flats in Dallas and moved out this month.

Lawyers for the Jean family have called the affadavit "self-serving" and said it contradicts accounts from neighbors in the apartment complex.
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Post by Patagoniagirl » Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:16 pm

I suspect the officer's rendition of the events is all bullshit.



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Post by Flatpointhigh » Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:05 pm

Patagoniagirl wrote:
Mon Sep 24, 2018 5:16 pm
I suspect the officer's rendition of the events is all bullshit.
I seem to recall that she fled to another town after the event, and a warrant was sent out for her arrest.
Guyger was not identified as the officer involved in the shooting until Saturday and the Texas Rangers' manslaughter warrant was not signed until Sunday. Guyger surrendered to law enforcement at the Kaufman County Sheriff's Department Sunday night and bonded out of jail about two hours later.
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