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Post by Kendra » Sun Dec 03, 2017 7:31 pm

I don't recall which news source I saw it on, but one of them asked Dowd for a copy of the sent email with the comments to the Trump staffer that then posted it to the Twitter account. Which, of course, wasn't produced.



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Post by Addie » Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:37 pm

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Hill testimony of Flynn's deputy appears at odds with court filing

Washington (CNN)Former national security adviser Michael Flynn's deputy told a key Senate committee she "was not aware" of any communications between Flynn and the Russian ambassador -- an assertion that appears to contradict a court filing unsealed Friday, according to documents obtained by CNN.

Written comments from K.T. McFarland, who was previously Flynn's deputy and is now President Donald Trump's nominee to be ambassador to Singapore, contrast with court documents unsealed Friday after Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his conversations with then-Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak.

"Did you ever discuss any of General Flynn's contacts with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak directly with General Flynn?" Sen. Cory Booker asked McFarland in July in written correspondence with the committee, which is overseeing her nomination.

"I am not aware of any of the issues or events as described above," McFarland wrote.

The court documents detailing the charge against Flynn state that he spoke to a senior transition team official about what to discuss with Kislyak after the Obama administration issued new sanctions against Russia on December 29.


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Post by AndyinPA » Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:42 pm

Dowd will, hopefully, get to learn the lesson that, no matter how much loyalty you show to 45, he will never reciprocate.



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Post by fierceredpanda » Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:01 pm

AndyinPA wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:42 pm
Dowd will, hopefully, get to learn the lesson that, no matter how much loyalty you show to 45, he will never reciprocate.
This reminds me of the line from Oliver Stone's otherwise meh (and probably ahistorical) flick Nixon, where Howard Hunt is being paid off by John Dean. Dean asks Hunt how he can have the temerity to blackmail the President of the United States. Hunt replies that Dean has asked the wrong question - the real question is: Why is he paying? He then hands Dean a piece of free advice:
John, sooner or later, sooner, I think, you're gonna learn a lesson that's been learned by everyone who's ever gotten close to Richard Nixon. That he's the darkness reaching out for the darkness. And eventually, it's either you or him. Your grave's already been dug, John.


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Post by Kendra » Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:15 pm

Rachel Maddow is currently rocking the house.



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Post by Notorial Dissent » Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:10 am

fierceredpanda wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:01 pm
AndyinPA wrote:
Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:42 pm
Dowd will, hopefully, get to learn the lesson that, no matter how much loyalty you show to 45, he will never reciprocate.
This reminds me of the line from Oliver Stone's otherwise meh (and probably ahistorical) flick Nixon, where Howard Hunt is being paid off by John Dean. Dean asks Hunt how he can have the temerity to blackmail the President of the United States. Hunt replies that Dean has asked the wrong question - the real question is: Why is he paying? He then hands Dean a piece of free advice:
John, sooner or later, sooner, I think, you're gonna learn a lesson that's been learned by everyone who's ever gotten close to Richard Nixon. That he's the darkness reaching out for the darkness. And eventually, it's either you or him. Your grave's already been dug, John.
I think that is a pretty good summation of the current administration. The thing that still amazes me is that otherwise supposedly intelligent competent people, admittedly a very teeny tiny contingent of the whole group, in the current administration don't seem to get what has been obvious to that he is going to screw them over if not today, then tomorrow, he doesn't understand the concept of loyalty or concern for ANYONE but him.


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Post by Addie » Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:43 pm

Talking Points Memo
Flynn Guilty Plea Revealed New Admissions About His Work For Turkey

Buried amid the news avalanche that erupted when former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn admitted Friday to lying to the FBI about his contacts with Russia was confirmation of key details of his work for another foreign nation: Turkey.

Flynn was not charged for his lobbying on behalf of Turkish interests, and his statement of offense made no mention of his alleged involvement in an outlandish plot to kidnap a Muslim cleric. But Flynn admitted that his belated application to register as a foreign agent for his Turkey lobbying was riddled with lies, and that he failed to divulge that the highest levels of Turkey’s government were behind his work.

According to court documents, “Flynn made materially false statements and omissions” in his Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) filing with the Justice Department entered in March, shortly after he was forced out of the White House.

As Flynn admitted, the FARA filing falsely stated that his firm, the Flynn Intel Group, “did not know whether or the extent to which the Republic of Turkey was involved” in a project undertaken during the 2016 election to smear Fethullah Gulen, an exiled cleric living in the U.S. and loathed by Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan. Flynn also omitted “that officials from the Republic of Turkey provided supervision and direction” over the project and falsely claimed that his Election Day op-ed in The Hill calling for Gulen’s removal from the U.S. wasn’t part of that work.


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Post by Addie » Wed Dec 06, 2017 1:56 pm

Business Insider - Natasha Bertrand
Whistleblower says Michael Flynn told business associate Russia sanctions would be 'ripped up'

Former national security adviser Michael Flynn told a business associate in January that one of the Trump administration's first priorities would be to "rip up" the sanctions imposed by the Obama administration in December, according to a whistleblower who described the incident to a Democratic congressman. ...

"At this event, the whistleblower met Alex Copson," Cummings wrote. Copson was working at the time with Flynn on a project to build nuclear reactors in the Middle East, and Flynn reported in August that he served as an "advisor" to Copson's company between 2015-2016.

"During their conversation, Mr. Copson informed the whistleblower that he 'just got this text message' from General Flynn saying that the project — "involving a joint partnership between the United States and Russia relating to the energy sector in the Middle East" — was "good to go."

"Mike has been putting everything in place for us...This is going to make a lot of very wealthy people," Copson told the whistleblower, according to Cummings' letter.

"Mr. Copson explained [to the whistleblower] that General Flynn was making sure that sanctions would be 'ripped up," Cummings wrote.


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Post by Addie » Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:56 pm

Politico
New judge assigned to Michael Flynn case

President Donald Trump’s former national security adviser, Michael Flynn, will face a different judge to be sentenced than the one who took Flynn’s guilty plea to a felony false statement charge last week, court records show.

Judge Emmet Sullivan was randomly assigned to take over the case from Judge Rudolph Contreras, according to an entry in the U.S. District Court docket Thursday.

The reason for the change was not clear. Sometimes cases are reassigned to balance the dockets of various judges, but a change early in a case can indicate that the first judge recused himself or herself for some reason.

A court spokeswoman did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Sullivan is an appointee of President Bill Clinton, while Contreras was appointed by President Barack Obama.


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Post by Addie » Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:35 pm

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Inside the day that set in motion Michael Flynn’s guilty plea

On the day that set in motion former national security adviser Michael Flynn’s guilty plea and cooperation with the special counsel, President-elect Donald Trump was ensconced at his Mar-a-Lago resort, contending with the latest news from the Obama White House.

It was Dec. 29, 2016, and President Obama had just imposed sanctions against Russia for that country’s alleged interference in the election. Trump aides were trying to decide how to respond.

Trump’s incoming national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn, was on vacation in the Dominican Republic, so the president-elect was scheduled to be briefed by Flynn’s top deputy, Kathleen Trioa (K.T.) McFarland.

A crucial chain of events unspooled over the day, according to court filings, congressional documents and people familiar with the interactions: Flynn and McFarland discussed by phone that Trump’s transition team did not want Russia to escalate the situation. McFarland told other Trump advisers Flynn was reaching out to Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak. Flynn called the ambassador, urging Moscow not to retaliate — and Russia later surprisingly agreed.


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Post by Addie » Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:25 am

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Trump lawyer says president knew Flynn had given FBI the same account he gave to vice president

President Trump’s personal lawyer said Sunday that the president knew in late January that then-national security adviser Michael Flynn had probably given FBI agents the same inaccurate account he provided to Vice President Pence about a call with the Russian ambassador.

Trump lawyer John Dowd said the information was passed to Trump by White House counsel Donald McGahn, who had been warned about Flynn’s statement to the vice president by a senior Justice Department official. The vice president said publicly at the time that Flynn had told him he had not discussed sanctions with the Russian diplomat — a statement disproved by a U.S. intelligence intercept of a phone call between Flynn and then-Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak.

Trump was aware of the issue a couple of weeks before a conversation with then-FBI Director James B. Comey in which Comey said the president asked him if he could be lenient while investigating Flynn, whom Trump had just fired for misleading Pence about the nature of his conversations with the Russian. ...

In a pre-dawn tweet Sunday, Trump issued a fresh rebuttal to Comey, writing: “I never asked Comey to stop investigating Flynn. Just more Fake News covering another Comey lie!” The tweet was part of a running commentary from Trump that began Saturday, a day after Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI and indicated he would cooperate with special counsel Robert S. Mueller III, who is probing Russian interference in the 2016 election.


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Post by Addie » Wed Dec 20, 2017 5:55 pm

Foreign Policy
White House Counsel Knew in January Flynn Probably Violated the Law

The White House turned over records this fall to special counsel Robert Mueller revealing that in the very first days of the Trump presidency, Don McGahn researched federal law dealing both with lying to federal investigators and with violations of the Logan Act, a centuries-old federal law that prohibits private citizens from negotiating with foreign governments, according to three people with direct knowledge of the confidential government documents.

The records reflected concerns that McGahn, the White House counsel, had that Michael Flynn, then the president’s national security advisor, had possibly violated either one or both laws at the time, according to two of the sources. The disclosure that these records exist and that they are in the possession of the special counsel could bolster any potential obstruction of justice case against President Donald Trump.

The records that McGahn turned over to the special counsel, portions of which were read to this reporter, indicate he researched both statutes and warned Trump about Flynn’s possible violations.

McGahn conducted the analysis shortly after learning that Flynn, on Dec. 29, 2016 — while Barack Obama was still president — had counseled the Russian ambassador to the United States at the time, Sergey Kislyak, not to retaliate against U.S. economic sanctions imposed against Russia by the outgoing administration.

McGahn believed that Flynn, and possibly anyone who authorized or approved of such contacts, would be in potential violation of the Logan Act, according to two of the sources, both of whom work in the administration.


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Post by Kendra » Wed Dec 20, 2017 6:18 pm

How long before McGahn's back hits the door and Trump says he hardly knew him?



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Isn't McGahn the one who gets covfefe for Ty Cobb?


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Post by fierceredpanda » Wed Dec 20, 2017 6:40 pm

Kendra wrote:
Wed Dec 20, 2017 6:18 pm
How long before McGahn's back hits the door and Trump says he hardly knew him?
Trump would be well-advised to keep McGahn happy at any cost. He knows where all the proverbial bodies are buried, and he and Trump do not enjoy attorney/client privilege, meaning McGahn can burn Trump's ass anytime the thought strikes him. That's some serious leverage. At most, if McGahn has to go, he has every incentive to go out in full E. Howard Hunt fashion and demand cash in exchange for his silence. Lord knows, Trump has more money than Nixon did.

Look how Trump bent over backwards not to say anything bad about Mike Flynn. Now try to comprehend the magnitude of the information McGahn possesses. The right move (from 45's perspective) is to give McGahn anything (and I do mean anything) he wants.


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Post by GreatGrey » Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:30 am

Judge tells all the Trumpetts trying to file amicus briefs to shut the fuck up.


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Post by pipistrelle » Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:49 am

Wonder who the third party is?



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Post by RoadScholar » Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:53 am

Maybe someone who does things that are Grossly Inappropriate?


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Post by fierceredpanda » Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:57 am

pipistrelle wrote:
Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:49 am
Wonder who the third party is?
Let's see:
  • High-profile case involving Trump.
  • Lots of right-wingers paying attention.
  • Intervention can have no possible impact on the proceedings apart from generating publicity.
  • Doesn't really understand or care about the actual statutory and case authority.
  • Inevitable smackdown by federal judge.
  • Repeated filings.
Klayman. It has to be.

EDIT: Or it could be Carter Page. He tried to intervene in the AT&T/Time Warner merger too (for reasons passing understanding), and his ass is kinda hanging in the wind on this Russia thing.


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Post by pipistrelle » Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:57 am

Oooooo, what information would Klayman "sincerely believe" he has to share about the case?



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Post by GreatGrey » Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:39 am

pipistrelle wrote:
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Wonder who the third party is?
Similar order in the Papadopoulos case


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Post by Kendra » Wed Dec 27, 2017 12:39 pm

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-pardon-mi ... ion-759563
Updated | President Donald Trump should pardon his former national security adviser and campaign aide Michael Flynn, who “has taken the biggest fall,” Flynn’s brother said Tuesday.

In a since deleted tweet, Joseph Flynn said Trump must get the former Army general off the hook for his December 1 guilty plea stemming from his contacts with the former Russian ambassador. The plea deal is a part of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election and possible coordination with the Trump campaign.



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Post by RTH10260 » Wed Dec 27, 2017 2:54 pm

Question to the IAALs here: what is the earliest that a pardon can be issued? I suspect a jury and/or judge must have spoken the guilty verdict. Can an early pardon preempt a trial (or plea deal)?



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Post by TexasFilly » Wed Dec 27, 2017 2:58 pm

RTH10260 wrote:
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Question to the IAALs here: what is the earliest that a pardon can be issued? I suspect a jury and/or judge must have spoken the guilty verdict. Can an early pardon preempt a trial (or plea deal)?
A pardon can be issued by the President at any time. The only limitation in the Constituion is that he/she cannot pardon themselves from impeachment.


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