State Government Shutdowns

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Post by Addie » Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:39 pm

I can't imagine what his approval rating will be like after this. It was 15% already.
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Post by Flatpointhigh » Wed Jul 05, 2017 7:52 pm

Addie wrote:I can't imagine what his approval rating will be like after this. It was 15% already.
AndyinPA wrote:Christie is toast in New Jersey, and he knows it. He never cared much; now he not only doesn't care, he wants to rub it in.
:yeah: but too also, the people voted for him, so they knew what they were getting 2X



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Post by AndyinPA » Wed Jul 05, 2017 8:07 pm

A lot of them liked what they were getting!



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Post by Notorial Dissent » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:41 pm

Flatpointhigh wrote:
Addie wrote:I can't imagine what his approval rating will be like after this. It was 15% already.
AndyinPA wrote:Christie is toast in New Jersey, and he knows it. He never cared much; now he not only doesn't care, he wants to rub it in.
:yeah: but too also, the people voted for him, so they knew what they were getting 2X
I always thought it was he was the best of two very bad choices. I still don't see any reason to think otherwise. NJ politics being what they are.


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Post by Gregg » Thu Jul 06, 2017 12:01 am

Totally lost in all of this is why the hell does the Governor of New Jersey have an official beach house?
Further, if its one of those things that goes back to Woodrow Wilson or something like, how the hell did the various "cut out the damn waste!" reformers of the last 30 years not sell the thing off before they cut something worthwhile in the name of cutting out the waste in government?


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Post by Notorial Dissent » Thu Jul 06, 2017 2:02 am

Obviously because it's not waste if it benefits a GOP in power, and besides the rules don't apply to him, you ought to know that by now.


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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Fri Jul 07, 2017 1:38 pm

Ninja'ed by Addie. :bighug:

Lawyer to the rescue!!!! Here's a separate article with the prayer for relief as they say in the lawyer world:

https://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/7/6 ... =emaildkre
[Local lawyer Mario] Blanch wants Gov. Christie to “pay restitution in an amount of the fair market value of renting a private beach in New Jersey during the July Fourth weekend.”


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Post by Addie » Sat Jul 08, 2017 8:50 am

NJ.com
Bye-bye beach house? Guadagno wants to sell Christie's Island Beach retreat

TRENTON -- Blasting Gov. Chris Christie's summer home as "a private luxury paid for with public money," a Democratic state lawmaker is proposing legislation to lease out the property, and Lt. Gov. Kim Guadagno is calling for it to be sold outright.

Earlier this week, the governor came under fire after photos were published showing Christie lounging in flip-flops, shorts and a baseball hat at Island Beach State Park during the state government shutdown that cut off access to the same beach to residents.

"I've never thought there should be a beach house for the governor," Guadagno, the Republican nominee in this year's race to succeed Christie, in a text message to NJ Advance Media on Friday. "I think it should be sold."

In addition to a $175,000 salary, a $95,000 a year expense account, and the use of Drumthwacket mansion in Princeton, the governor also has exclusive use of several beach houses at Island Beach State Park in Berkeley Township.

"There is no real burning need to have a private beach house," state Assemblyman John Wisniewski (D-Middlesex) said. "Especially in a state as small as ours."


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Post by Kendra » Sat Jul 08, 2017 9:13 am

Any idea what the reasoning is behind NJ providing a beach house like this to its governor? Is it something that goes back decades, or something more recent that came up on Christie's watch?



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Post by Addie » Sat Jul 08, 2017 9:40 am

It was donated to the State of New Jersey in 1953, part of the 2,694-acre estate of Henry Phipps Jr., for a public park (Island Beach State Park). Every governor has had exclusive use of the house since then, but how that was decided, I dunno.

Meanwhile, a sand sculpture enjoying the beach:
Kendra wrote:Any idea what the reasoning is behind NJ providing a beach house like this to its governor? Is it something that goes back decades, or something more recent that came up on Christie's watch?


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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Sat Jul 08, 2017 9:42 am

Addie is quick!!!!! :notworthy:


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Post by Kendra » Sat Jul 08, 2017 9:54 am

Tiredretiredlawyer wrote:Addie is quick!!!!! :notworthy:
Yes! I tried Google and didn't get far. Thank you Addie.



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Post by TollandRCR » Sat Jul 08, 2017 2:29 pm

If the Governor and the Assembly go along with the deal that UConn-AAUP has negotiated with the University of Connecticut, faculty and staff jobs may be secure for a few more years. However, there is an underlying problem. The richest state in the nation has the poorest cities. Jobs are fleeing the state (Aetna to Manhattan, GE to Boston). And people are leaving for better job chances.

Connecticut was once a manufacturing state, with many of its factories powered by rushing rivers. It is turning into a bedroom state The Governor and UConn are trying to create the technological foundation for a new industrial state. This is hard to do in the shadow of Massachusetts.

The Atlantic July 5 2017
What on Earth Is Wrong With Connecticut? by Derek Thompson
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/ar ... es/532623/

Conservatives say the state has a tax problem. Liberals say it has an inequality problem. What it really has is a city problem.


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Post by Addie » Mon Jul 31, 2017 5:48 pm

New York Daily News
Chris Christie and all future N.J. governors barred from using beach mansion during government shutdowns

Smack!

The New Jersey Assembly on Monday barred Gov. Chris Christie from using a house at Island Beach State Park during government shutdowns.

The Legislature voted 63-2 with two abstentions to prevent Christie — or any future New Jersey governor — from using the Island Beach State Park beach mansion during a government shutdown, officials said.

Assemblyman John Wisniewski of Middlesex County proposed the measure July 13 after Christie earned statewide ire when he was photographed sunning himself July 2 with his family on the beach after he shut down state beaches during a budget standoff.

“All residential property owned by the State and provided exclusively or primarily for the use of the Governor, including the Governor’s ocean house at Island Beach State Park, shall be closed and not available for use by the Governor, the Governor’s family, or any other person or entity during a state of emergency that is declared,” the bill read.


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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:28 pm

Addie wrote:New York Daily News
Chris Christie and all future N.J. governors barred from using beach mansion during government shutdowns

Smack!

The New Jersey Assembly on Monday barred Gov. Chris Christie from using a house at Island Beach State Park during government shutdowns.

The Legislature voted 63-2 with two abstentions to prevent Christie — or any future New Jersey governor — from using the Island Beach State Park beach mansion during a government shutdown, officials said.

Assemblyman John Wisniewski of Middlesex County proposed the measure July 13 after Christie earned statewide ire when he was photographed sunning himself July 2 with his family on the beach after he shut down state beaches during a budget standoff.

“All residential property owned by the State and provided exclusively or primarily for the use of the Governor, including the Governor’s ocean house at Island Beach State Park, shall be closed and not available for use by the Governor, the Governor’s family, or any other person or entity during a state of emergency that is declared,” the bill read.
Name rings a bell. A bridge or something.



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Post by vic » Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:05 pm

No more Sunday Dinners at Drumthwacket?

Wikipedia article on NJ Governor's Mansion, sourcing The Trentonian
Chris Christie (2010–) only uses the mansion for Sunday dinners and official functions, while living in his private home.



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