Roy Moore - FORMER AL Supreme Court Chief Justice

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Post by bob » Mon Nov 28, 2016 4:47 pm

AL.com: Roy Moore's son arrested on misdemeanor charges:
The son of suspended Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore was arrested this weekend in Etowah County for two miscellaneous charges.

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Moore was arrested for hunting without permission and hunting over bait. Both are misdemeanors.

The land owner came into the Etowah County Sheriff's Office to make the complaint and signed the warrants, Barton said.

Moore has faced numerous charges on eight occasions in Florida and Alabama over the last five years. In 2015, he was arrested in Troy for drug possession. He has also faced charges of driving under the influence in both Alabama and Florida, and three drug-related arrests in Baldwin, Pike and St. Clair counties in Alabama.


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Post by bob » Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:07 pm

AL.com: Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore appeals his suspension:
Moore's appeal says that the Court of the Judiciary exceeded its authority in suspending Moore for the remainder of his term, effectively removing him from office even though it did not have the unanimous vote of its nine members required to formally remove him from office. Moore's term ends in January 2019.

If Moore's suspension stands, it would expand the power of the Court of the Judiciary to punish judges, the appeal says.

"The enormity of the COJ's gross excess of authority has profound implications for the judicial independence of every appellate, circuit, district and probate judge in the state," the appeal says.
Moore's brief.


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AL.com: Eight judges file appeal backing Chief Justice Roy Moore:
Eight Alabama judges, four active and four retired, have filed a brief in support of suspended Chief Justice Roy Moore with the special Supreme Court that will hear Moore's appeal.

The judges contend that the Court of the Judiciary circumvented a rule requiring a unanimous vote to remove a judge from office by instead suspending Moore for the rest of his term.

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The judges also claim that the punishment of Moore for what he wrote in an administrative order to probate judges sets a troubling precedent.

"The severity of the punishment for the Chief Justice's administrative speech in this particular case calls for modification by this appellate court lest judges misperceive that their judgment and the expression of that legal judgment must comport with a particular political and religious viewpoint, even when they state a valid, though arguable, point of law," the judges state in the brief, filed Wednesday.

The eight judges who filed the brief supporting Moore are Circuit Judge John Bentley, Circuit Judge T. Lee Carter and District Judge Mark Hammitte of the 25th Circuit (Marion and Winston counties); retired Circuit Judge Ashley McKathan, retired Circuit Judge Jerry Stokes and retired District Judge Frank L. McGuire III of Covington County; Circuit Judge Tim Riley of Marshall County and retired Circuit Judge Rusty Johnston of Mobile County.
The judge's (motion to file and the) amicus brief.


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Post by Skip Intro » Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:02 pm

Guess who's in line to become Alabama's newest Senator when Beauregard Sessions becomes A.G.?

Go ahead, take a wild ass guess.



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Skip Intro wrote:Guess who's in line to become Alabama's newest Senator when Beauregard Sessions becomes A.G.?
Yes, but:
The governor has also interviewed U.S. Rep. Mo Brooks, R-Huntsville; former state Rep. Perry Hooper of Montgomery; Senate President Pro Tem Del Marsh, R-Anniston; Associate Justice Glenn Murdock; Sen. Arthur Orr, R-Decatur; Rep. Connie Rowe, R-Jasper; and Sen. Cam Ward, R-Alabaster . . . .

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State law also requires Bentley to order a special election for someone to fill the remainder of Sessions' term. Sessions would have been up for re-election in 2020.

The law does not set a specific time for the special election but says the governor must "forthwith order an election" if the vacancy occurs more than four months before the next general election, which is in 2018.

Attorney General Luther Strange has announced he would run in the special election.


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Post by Skip Intro » Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:43 pm

I guess Trump could always appoint Roy to the Supreme Court. He has all the right qualifications, if you exclude giving money to Trump.



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Post by bob » Fri Jan 20, 2017 9:13 pm

AL.com: Roy Moore speaking at Presidential Inaugural Prayer Breakfast:
Suspended Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore will speak at the Presidential Inaugural Prayer Breakfast on Friday at Trump International Hotel in Washington.

Rev. Merrie Turner, hostess of the event, said Moore will give the opening prayer.

Turner said she has known Moore since participating with him on a tour with his Ten Commandments monument in 2004.

Turner said Alabama Supreme Court Associate Justice Tom Parker will also speak.


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Post by bob » Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:28 pm

AL.com: Suspended Chief Justice Roy Moore argues ethics charges should be dismissed:
The state's judicial ethics court should not have been allowed to try or suspend Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore for an administrative order he issued on gay marriage to state probate judges because that court doesn't have jurisdiction over such orders, Moore's attorneys argue in a written brief.

Attorneys representing Moore filed the 50-page brief Tuesday to the special court appointed to hear Moore's appeal of his suspension.

The brief represents the final written briefs in the appeal before oral arguments are to be held, according to a press release issued Wednesday from Liberty Counsel - the law group representing Moore. A date has not yet been set for oral argument.
In other words: Moore filed a reply brief.


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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:31 pm

Suspending Moore forever rather than removing him does sound like a ploy. But, it's been done before and has been approved for other judges.

Precedent. Something Roy Moore always likes to follow. Unless it's agin him personally.



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Post by Notorial Dissent » Thu Feb 02, 2017 3:11 am

Or at least of dealing with him as he deserves when there was apparently one partisan on the tribunal.


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Post by bob » Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:48 am

Moore moves to expedite, i.e., dispense with oral argument and rule on the briefs.

It is mostly an attempt to bite again at the apple. Moore in the motion claims financial hardship (oral arguments are two months away and he hasn't worked since his suspension), but, unsurprisingly, the accompanying affidavit provides no evidence of actual hardship.


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Post by bob » Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:40 pm

Moore moves to expedite, i.e., dispense with oral argument and rule on the briefs.
Motion granted: AL.com: Special Alabama Supreme Court grants suspended Chief Justice Roy Moore speedy trial request:
Suspended Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore won't have an April hearing before the special supreme court appointed to hear his appeal.

Instead, the court will consider Moore's appeal based on written arguments already presented by the Judicial Inquiry Commission and Moore's attorneys at Liberty Counsel.

The court last week issued an order, at Moore's request, cancelling the planned April 26 oral arguments.


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Post by bob » Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:28 pm

AL.com: Gov. Kay Ivey takes a chainsaw to Luther Strange. Now what?:
Gov. Kay Ivey did it. In unwinding the warped world of ex-Gov. Robert Bentley she today set a special election to fill the senate seat vacated by Jeff Sessions and assumed by Big Luther. The primary will be August 15, which is practically right on top of us.

Which means all Strange's backroom bargaining amounts to nothing but stinky Montgomery cheese. Which means America's tallest senator may become one of the shortest-lasting.

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Some believe suspended Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore wants the senate seat and will be a front-runner if he chooses to run. The fact that it will be held in special election means anybody and everybody in Alabama politics can take a shot without risking the seat they already have.

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Of course if Moore won that senate seat he'd be off the table for the 2018 governor's race, and Ivey would have one less competitor, should she chooses to run for the office again.
I'm not sure I quite buy this: If Moore is elected to the U.S. Senate, then Strange will likely run against Ivey to be the next Alabama governor. But if Strange keeps his senate seat, Moore will likely run for governor instead; maybe Ivey sees Moore as weaker of the two.


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Post by MN-Skeptic » Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:45 am

From AL.com -

Roy Moore's suspension upheld by Alabama Supreme Court; decision next week on Senate race
The Alabama Supreme Court today upheld the decision that removed Roy Moore from his position as chief justice.

Moore in a press conference after the decision called the prosecution "politically" motivated and declared that he remains Chief Justice despite the suspension regarding an administrative order against the issuance of marriage licenses to same-sex couples.

"I have done my duty under the laws of this state to stand for the undeniable truth that God ordained marriage as the union of one man and one woman," Moore said during the press conference with reporters in the Old Supreme Court Chambers at the Alabama State Capitol.

Moore can't appeal the ruling to the federal courts because there are no federal issues. "This is it," he said.
More at the link.



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Post by Notorial Dissent » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:14 pm

And that is exactly how he got in this position to begin with. I still don't understand why they just didn't remove him, but gone and impotent will do.


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Post by bob » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:55 pm

Notorial Dissent wrote:And that is exactly how he got in this position to begin with. I still don't understand why they just didn't remove him, but gone and impotent will do.
For reasons unknown, at least one person on the JIC voted against removal. I think the dissenter(s) should have provided reasons, if for no other reason than as guidance for future cases.
Edit: Type O.


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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Thu Apr 20, 2017 1:59 pm

bob wrote:
Notorial Dissent wrote:And that is exactly how he got in this position to begin with. I still don't understand why they just didn't remove him, but gone and impotent will do.
For reasons unkniwn, at least one person on the JIC voted against removal. I think dissenter(s) should provided reasons, if for no other reason than as guidance for future cases.
Yabbut "I'm a crank" will probably not help much with future cases. :mrgreen:



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Post by Notorial Dissent » Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:34 pm

bob wrote:
Notorial Dissent wrote:And that is exactly how he got in this position to begin with. I still don't understand why they just didn't remove him, but gone and impotent will do.
For reasons unknown, at least one person on the JIC voted against removal. I think the dissenter(s) should have provided reasons, if for no other reason than as guidance for future cases.
Edit: Type O.
That was kind of my take on it but didn't really have anything concrete to go on.


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Post by bob » Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:18 pm

Read the decision. Most of it is obvious enough, i.e., despite Moore's lies contrary assertions, Moore did, in fact, order the probate judges to violate the federal courts' orders. :nope:

SCoAL did invoke the exception to the mootness doctrine to reach the unexciting conclusion that suspension with pay does not violate due process.

SCoAL, IMHO, punted on Moore's best claim -- that suspension (without pay) until the end of his term is tantamount to removal. SCoAL swept it under the rug by concluding the discipline imposed was authorized.


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Post by bob » Wed Apr 26, 2017 3:59 pm

AL.com: Roy Moore running for Senate, resigns from Supreme Court to challenge Luther Strange:
Roy Moore today announced he is resigning from his position as the Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court to run for the United States Senate.

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Moore said he has submitted his papers to resign from the state supreme court, a position he was suspended from for the remainder of his term.

Gov. Kay Ivey will get to appoint the new chief justice and will get to fill any vacancies created if she elevates a judge from a lower court. Justice Tom Parker said today he will seek the chief justice seat in the 2018 primary election.


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Post by mmmirele » Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:03 pm

Tom Parker is almost as abhorrent as Roy Moore. He was also playing footsie with not wanting to implement Obergefell in Alabama.



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Post by Dr. Blue » Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:52 pm

mmmirele wrote:Tom Parker is almost as abhorrent as Roy Moore. He was also playing footsie with not wanting to implement Obergefell in Alabama.
Indeed. And in fact, if I remember correctly, Parker was awfully cozy with birthers as well.



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Post by bob » Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:11 pm

Dr. Blue wrote:
mmmirele wrote:Tom Parker is almost as abhorrent as Roy Moore. He was also playing footsie with not wanting to implement Obergefell in Alabama.
Indeed. And in fact, if I remember correctly, Parker was awfully cozy with birthers as well.
Yeah; Parker was the other justice who agreed with Moore in the Alabama birther quest (filed by Klayman, natch).


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Post by Notorial Dissent » Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:33 pm

My impression was always that Parker was every bit as bad or worse than Moore, but was more of a follower than a leader. He wouldn't have stuck his neck out if Moore hadn't gone first. I'm just sorry he didn't get it shortened in the process.


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