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AL.com: As Roy Moore appeals suspension, his lawyer notes another judge's lesser punishment for sexting:
In a press release issued by Mat Staver of Liberty Counsel on Tuesday, the group questioned why the COJ suspended Moore for the rest of his term while last month it gave Tallapoosa probate judge a six-month suspension for sexting with a woman who had business before him.

"It is unbelievable the seriousness of Judge Archer's perverted sexual actions and yet he only receives a six-month suspension, while Chief Justice Moore is suspended for life," Staver, founder and chairman of Liberty Counsel.

"Chief Justice Roy Moore did nothing wrong and he is suspended for the rest of his term without pay, and a sexting judge gets suspended for six months. Where is the justice here? There is none," Staver stated. "The COJ's disparity in punishment and disdain for the law and the rules is a travesty. Liberty Counsel and Chief Justice Moore will continue to fight this battle to restore the rule of law. The case has already been appealed to the Alabama Supreme Court."
It is as if Moore (and Staver) are playing for political opinion (and future voters), and not raising any serious legal challenges. :think:

Nonetheless, "for completeness":
The questions Moore's attorneys are asking on appeal are:

- Whether the Judicial Inquiry Commission (which filed the charges based on a complaint by the Southern Poverty Law Center) proved each of the six charges in its Complaint by clear and convincing evidence?

- Whether the Judicial Inquiry Commission violated its own rules and Alabama law by breaching confidentiality during its investigation, or by prosecuting charges without a sworn complaint?

- Whether the JIC and COJ have jurisdiction to investigate or punish judges for issuing administrative orders?

- Whether the automatic suspension of judges when they [are] charged by the JIC violates constitutional Due Process guarantees?

- Whether the COJ can impose a de facto removal from office without a unanimous vote?


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AL.com: Will Roy Moore get retirement? Will 4 Supreme Court justices recuse from his appeal?:
Suspended Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore has asked that four of his colleagues be prevented from hearing the appeal of his conviction on judicial ethics charges.

In his motion to the Alabama Supreme Court on Monday, Moore asks that four justices on the current Alabama Supreme Court, plus three former justices who heard a May petition regarding the Judicial Inquiry Commission (JIC) be recused from his appeal.

It's unclear what Moore was asking in that May petition to his colleagues.

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The names of three of the current Supreme Court justices being asked to recuse themselves and the three former justices are named in a sealed document, Staver stated.

But he did name the fourth current justice they sought to recuse -- Greg Shaw. Shaw did not preside over Moore's prior JIC petition, Staver said.

But Shaw has commented unfavorably[*] regarding Moore's Jan. 6, 2016 administrative order to probate judges on the issuance of same-sex marriage license.
And, of course:
In the motion to recuse, Moore also requests that replacement justices be selected by a random and publicly observable drawing from a pool of sitting circuit judges.
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* "Commented unfavorably" is a wee imprecise; Shaw concurred in SCOAL's dismissal of API's collusive petition, and wrote:
If a judge finds that he or she cannot abide by a controlling decision of a higher court, then that judge should resign from office. He or she should not indulge in the pretense that rebelling against a superior court’s decision is an accepted judicial response. Such conduct does not show respect for or comply with the law; it does not promote public confidence in the integrity or impartiality of the judiciary. Instead, I believe that defiance would bring the judicial office into disrepute.
Nonetheless, as it was in 2003, I expect all SCOAL justice will recuse themselves.

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Since the suspension ends with his term in January 2019, it effectively prevents Moore from ever seeking another judicial term. He could consider other political offices but may not be able to run or raise money under Alabama law unless he first resigns from the chief justice job.

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Moore will get his retirement, but won't be able to draw while he is suspended without pay, according to Staver and an official with the Retirement Systems of Alabama.

Bill Kelley, director of benefits for the Employee's Retirement Systems of Alabama, said that Moore won't be able to accrue more time for his retirement during the more than two years Moore on unpaid suspension.

But at the end of that period – or earlier of if Moore resigns – he would still be eligible to collect his retirement, Kelley said. The retirement would be 75 percent of the annual salary Moore had when he was suspended, which was about $181,000.

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Staver said that Moore does not continue to get health benefits or any other benefits while on suspension.

Moore doesn't maintain any duties and has not been allowed on the third floor of the state judicial building where the offices of the Alabama Supreme Court are located since he was automatically suspended when the JIC filed the charges, Staver stated.

Moore's staff has been assigned to work for other justices as the ninth seat on the court remains vacant, Staver said. Because Moore is on suspension and wasn't removed from office, the state can't fill the vacancy.

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"He is still under the judicial canons, meaning he cannot engage in outside work," Staver stated. "Thus, the COJ has created a horrible situation for the chief – suspending him without pay or insurance and yet preventing him from working to pay bills and eat."


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Post by bob » Thu Oct 13, 2016 5:20 pm

AL.com: Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore asked to clean out office, turn over keys:
Suspended Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore has been asked to turn over his keys and clean out his office.

Acting chief justice Lyn Stuart sent two letters to Moore's home in Gallant (Etowah County) on Monday.

In one letter Stuart states that since Moore was recently found guilty of the ethics charges he must contact the court's marshal "to arrange the removal of your personal effects from your office and to return your keys (both brass and card) to the Judicial Building on or before October 18, 2016."

In the other letter Stuart told Moore that "in an effort to keep the judiciary running smoothly and efficiently, any letters addressed to the Chief Justice that appear to contain official information will be opened by my staff."

"Letters that appear to be personal will not be opened," Stuart wrote. "Any unopened mail or opened mail that is personal will be held and made available for you to pick up from the Marshals."


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Post by bob » Mon Oct 17, 2016 6:18 pm

WIAT: 3 of Roy Moore’s law clerks fired:
Three of suspended Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore’s law clerks have been fired. Moore’s attorney, Mat Starver, says acting chief justice, Lyn Stuart, fired Moore’s head law clerk and two other clerks.
Moore's head law clerk was Benjamin DuPré, who has been Moore's right hand for ages.

And DuPré just so happens to have been Taitz's sponsor to the SCOTUS bar.


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Post by Plutodog » Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:40 pm

bob wrote:WIAT: 3 of Roy Moore’s law clerks fired:
Three of suspended Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore’s law clerks have been fired. Moore’s attorney, Mat Starver, says acting chief justice, Lyn Stuart, fired Moore’s head law clerk and two other clerks.
Moore's head law clerk was Benjamin DuPré, who has been Moore's right hand for ages.

And DuPré just so happens to have been Taitz's sponsor to the SCOTUS bar.
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Post by mmmirele » Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:20 am

Ol' Roy* is not vacating his office and has filed a motion!
Acting Chief Justice Lyn Stuart sent a letter to Moore last week asking him to clean out his personal items and turn over his keys to the state judicial building in the wake of his recent conviction by the Court of the Judiciary on judicial ethics charges. Moore is appealing the decision of the COJ, which suspended him without pay for the remainder of his term.

But Moore said in an interview with AL.com on Tuesday that he had not and would not respond to Stuart. He said that Stuart exceeded her authority in making that request. "It's not her authority to execute the judgement of the COJ," he said.
He can't possibly pull out all this stuff before his appeal is heard!
"He has decorated the Chief Justice's suite to reflect the dignity of his position, including historic artwork and statuary that required a team of movers to install," according to the motion. "A massive grandfather clock stands outside the door to his private office. Large portraits of Lincoln and Washington adorn the walls. An impressive rendition of Peter Rothermel's 1851 painting of Patrick Henry's "Give Me Liberty" speech before the House of Burgesses fills a large wall space near the grandfather clock."

"Ornately framed copies of John Trumbull's "Declaration of Independence" and of Howard Chandler Christy's "Scene at the Signing of the Constitution" fill the walls in the Chief Justice's conference room," the motion states. "Removal and storage of the framed artwork and other objects d'art from the office of the Chief Justice would be a significant task, one that is impractical to accomplish within the few days Justice Stuart has allotted."
http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index ... ncart_2box

Personally, if I were the acting CJ, I'd order the locks be changed on the doors and the office labeled "Storage." That will do until Ol' Roy can pull up a U-Haul and take his crap home with him.

*Ol' Roy was a brand of dog food sold by Walmart. Still is, according to the intertubes.



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Post by noblepa » Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:51 am

mmmirele wrote:Ol' Roy* is not vacating his office and has filed a motion!
Acting Chief Justice Lyn Stuart sent a letter to Moore last week asking him to clean out his personal items and turn over his keys to the state judicial building in the wake of his recent conviction by the Court of the Judiciary on judicial ethics charges. Moore is appealing the decision of the COJ, which suspended him without pay for the remainder of his term.

But Moore said in an interview with AL.com on Tuesday that he had not and would not respond to Stuart. He said that Stuart exceeded her authority in making that request. "It's not her authority to execute the judgement of the COJ," he said.
He can't possibly pull out all this stuff before his appeal is heard!
"He has decorated the Chief Justice's suite to reflect the dignity of his position, including historic artwork and statuary that required a team of movers to install," according to the motion. "A massive grandfather clock stands outside the door to his private office. Large portraits of Lincoln and Washington adorn the walls. An impressive rendition of Peter Rothermel's 1851 painting of Patrick Henry's "Give Me Liberty" speech before the House of Burgesses fills a large wall space near the grandfather clock."

"Ornately framed copies of John Trumbull's "Declaration of Independence" and of Howard Chandler Christy's "Scene at the Signing of the Constitution" fill the walls in the Chief Justice's conference room," the motion states. "Removal and storage of the framed artwork and other objects d'art from the office of the Chief Justice would be a significant task, one that is impractical to accomplish within the few days Justice Stuart has allotted."
http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index ... ncart_2box

Personally, if I were the acting CJ, I'd order the locks be changed on the doors and the office labeled "Storage." That will do until Ol' Roy can pull up a U-Haul and take his crap home with him.

*Ol' Roy was a brand of dog food sold by Walmart. Still is, according to the intertubes.
Was all that artwork paid for by Mr. Moore, himself, out of his own funds? Or were they purchased with state money? Often senior officials are given a decorating budget to furnish their offices. If that is the case, then all that stuff belongs to the State of Alabama, not Mr. Moore. Only pictures of his wife, personal correspondence, etc. would belong to him.

As for his income, while, he may be prohibited from doing outside legal work as long as he is technically employed by the state, does AL law prevent him from doing speaking engagements? Those can often be quite lucrative.

IANAL, and I am certainly no expert on AL law, but it does seem unfair that they would suspend him without pay or benefits and then prevent him from earning a living elsewhere. That narrow aspect of his situation may be overturned on appeal. I doubt that his action ordering lower courts to ignore a SCOTUS ruling would be found to be legal in an appeal.



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Post by bob » Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:40 pm

mmmirele wrote:Ol' Roy* is not vacating his office and has filed a motion!
The ole Motion to Not Dump My Stuff on the Corner, which is taught on the eleventeenth day of Never in law school.

The irony is deep: Moore, as CJ, lurved to use his authority as chief administrator to do things, like place an unconstitutional statue in the court's rotunda, or order the inferior judges to violate the U.S. Constitution.

But when the new Acting CJ tries to do administrative stuff, it is motion-filing time!


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Post by Dan1100 » Wed Oct 19, 2016 4:40 pm

Surely Alabama has a statute for dealing with abandoned property, Storage Wars style.


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Post by bob » Mon Oct 24, 2016 6:18 pm

Montgomery Advertiser: Ethics complaint against Justice Tom Parker dismissed:
The Judicial Inquiry Commission last week dismissed an ethics complaint against Alabama Justice Tom Parker over comments suggesting resistance to the U.S. Supreme Court’s same-sex marriage ruling could return the nation to “founding principles.”

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The complaint filed against the justice, an outspoken social conservative, said the comments “offer ridicule and suggest defiance” of the judiciary. Attorneys for Parker argued that the ethical canon that formed the basis of the complaint amounted to a broad restriction on Parker’s freedom of speech.

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Parker went on a radio show on Oct. 6 of last year hosted by Bryan Fischer, a radio host who has compared homosexuality to Nazism. According to the complaint, Parker discussed the API case, a lawsuit then-pending before the court brought by the Alabama Policy Institute (API) and the Alabama Citizens Action Program (ALCAP), two groups opposed to same-sex marriage.

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Attorneys for API and ALCAP argued in one brief that an 1859 case in Wisconsin – where that state’s high court overturned the federal conviction of a man who attempted to help a runaway slave escape – could provide precedent.

The U.S. Supreme Court ultimately overruled Wisconsin in the case and has maintained since 1958's Cooper v. Aaron decision its decisions bind the states. But according to the complaint, Parker told Fischer in an interview that the proposal was “a model of what we need to see in this country.”

Parker, according to the complaint, also told Fischer that the states should serve as checks on the federal government, and that a state Supreme Court “would be a proper organ” for that, though he said there would not be “blanket defiance” of the nation’s high court.

“But in regard to the Obergefell decision, where it’s clear that they jumped outside of all the precedents in order to impose their will on this country, then yes, resisting that decision could may start a revival of what we need in this country to return to our founding principles,” the complaint quoted Parker saying.


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Post by June bug » Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:32 pm

His comments are loathsome and inappropriate, but statements on a radio talk show don't strike me as in any way comparable to Moore's misbehavior from the bench.



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Seconded.


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June bug wrote:His comments are loathsome and inappropriate, but statements on a radio talk show don't strike me as in any way comparable to Moore's misbehavior from the bench.
True. But Parker's comments could be reasonably read to be commentary about a pending case, which is a big judicial no-no. I'm a little surprised the JIC didn't pursue a lesser sanction.


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Post by bob » Tue Oct 25, 2016 3:48 pm

AL.com (AP): Alabama Supreme Court justices recuse themselves in Roy Moore's fight to return to office:
The Alabama Supreme Court said Monday that a panel of retired judges will hear suspended Chief Justice Roy Moore's bid to return to the bench.

The justices issued a 5-3 decision saying that they will recuse themselves from hearing Moore's appeal and describing how replacement judges will be picked.

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The court said Acting Chief Justice Lyn Stuart will work with the governor to randomly draw the names of 50 judges from a pool of retired appellate, circuit and district court judges. The first seven qualified and willing judges will serve as the special Supreme Court to hear Moore's appeal.

Associate Justice Tom Parker, an ally of Moore's who dissented in the Monday order, said elected judges should hear Moore's appeal because they are accountable to the public.

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Moore's attorney objected to Stuart's involvement in the selection of replacement judges. Stuart earlier this month directed Moore to clear out his office at the Alabama Judicial Building in the wake of his suspension from the bench. Moore, as of last week, had not removed his personal items. His attorney said the directive was premature since Moore is appealing his suspension.
1. Not surprising SCOAL went this route; this is what they did when Moore was removed;
2. Not surprising but disappointed that Parker (and others) wanted to stay on the case;
3. Moore's attorney is an idiot; he is objecting to the ACJ coordinating a random draw; shades of Trumpian whines of "rigged!!1!"


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Post by bob » Tue Oct 25, 2016 3:54 pm

Montgomery Advertiser: Roy Moore supporters file complaint against Lyn Stuart:
A group supportive of suspended Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore Monday filed an ethics complaint against acting Chief Justice Lyn Stuart, saying a letter asking him to clear out his office was “a show of unconscionable disregard of the possibility of appearing partial.”

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The complaint goes further, calling Stuart “naturally prejudiced” due to “almost two years of controversy, being named as a defendant in a federal lawsuit, and . . . thorough personal knowledge of details in Moore’s case.”

“Justice Lyn Stuart has improperly and prematurely acted as though the upcoming appeal has already been decided, has boldly made her judgment known to the State of Alabama, and has essentially inserted her judgment for that of a special court over which she should have no sway,” the complaint said.
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Post by bob » Mon Oct 31, 2016 3:45 pm

GoAL appoints the replacement justices who will hear Moore's appeal.


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Post by bob » Wed Nov 02, 2016 3:12 pm

GoAL appoints the replacement justices who will hear Moore's appeal.
"For completeness," one of the selected recused himself (due to a personal relationship with Moore).


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himself. But he's also only semi literate. This sentence in his statement made me shake my head.

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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Wed Nov 02, 2016 4:24 pm

Doesn't sound to me like he had to DQ himself. And he also sounds only semi literate. Behold this passage in his statement:
To give a bit of history, Chief Justice Moore and myself were first elected to the bench in 1992 and were classmates at the Alabama Judicial College’s New Judges’ Orientation in January,1993. In the years since, we visited on a regular basis at our state judicial meetings, held twice yearly.
Myself? :swoon:



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Post by bob » Tue Nov 08, 2016 6:55 pm

AL.com: Sanctity of Marriage Alabama files ethics complaint against justice Mike Bolin:
Sanctity of Marriage Alabama, a group that supports suspended Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore, has filed an ethics complaint against Moore's colleague, Justice Michael Bolin.

The complaint was filed Monday with the Judicial Inquiry Commission (JIC), according to a statement and copy of the complaint from Sanctity of Marriage.

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"Justice Bolin has recently recused himself from Moore's appeal," said Tom Ford, spokesperson for Sanctity of Marriage Alabama, "however, he failed to do so in May of 2016 where his impartiality was equally questionable."

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The group states that Moore complained in May to the Alabama Supreme Court that the JIC had leaked information that it was about to file charges against him. Bolin did not disqualify himself from being among those on the court to hear Moore's complaint, the group states.

Moore's complaint to his colleagues was placed under seal and public view.

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The group is also asking for Alabama to write-in a candidate for Mike Bolin's place on Tuesday.

"Justice Bolin does not deserve the vote of the people of Alabama on Tuesday," Ford stated in the press release.
I'm not quite sure what Moore SoM is alleging, but I am sure it is a nothingburger.

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Yellowhammer News: Roy Moore’s legal team slams acting Chief Justice latest round of firings as ‘disturbing’:
A new round of firings within the Alabama Supreme Court have prompted embattled former Chief Justice Roy Moore to again take aim at his successor.

The latest reaction comes after Moore discovered that interim Chief Justice Lyn Stuart fired two more court employees who had worked under the former judge. Reportedly, the Administrative Director of Courts and the Administrative Office of Courts’ legal counsel, who served under Moore’s first term, were “fired without notice” on November 3rd.


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Post by bob » Sun Nov 20, 2016 3:21 pm

With Senator Sessions becoming the AG, will former Chief Justice of AL, Roy Moore, run for Senate to replace Sessions

Today President Trump announced appointment of Senator Sessions to position of Attorney General of the US. I believe that former Chief Justice of Alabama, Roy Moore, will run for his senate seat. I met Justice Moore and his wife before and I believe he might run.
:twisted: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/with-senato ... -sessions/ :twisted:

Also too: Remember when conservatives got their undies in a wad over Obama's "Office of the President-elect"?


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Post by esseff44 » Sun Nov 20, 2016 3:29 pm

Twice former CJ Roy Moore would have no problem getting elected in Alabama if he wanted the job.



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Post by Dr. Blue » Sun Nov 20, 2016 8:33 pm

esseff44 wrote:Twice former CJ Roy Moore would have no problem getting elected in Alabama if he wanted the job.
That's really not all that clear. He ran for Governor twice and never made past the primaries - 33% of the vote one time, and 19% the other. If he had a well-known opponent, I don't think he'd get elected. He only got the supreme court spot because no one knew who his opponents were - a high-profile race like the Senate would be pretty different.



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Post by esseff44 » Sun Nov 20, 2016 10:11 pm

What's his relationship with Bentley?



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Post by Dr. Blue » Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:43 am

esseff44 wrote:What's his relationship with Bentley?
My sense is that Bentley doesn't like Moore at all. Hard to say when Bentley has gone out of his way to avoid talking about Moore or the SSM flap, but if you're wondering whether he would appoint Moore as interim before a special election to replace Sessions, I'd say the chances of that are pretty much nil.

On the other hand, I thought the chances of Trump getting elected were pretty much nil. And the chances that the Bundys would be acquitted in Oregon was pretty much nil. So.... my track record on predicting things isn't very good right now.



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Post by June bug » Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:10 am

Dr. Blue wrote:On the other hand, I thought the chances of Trump getting elected were pretty much nil. And the chances that the Bundys would be acquitted in Oregon was pretty much nil. So.... my track record on predicting things isn't very good right now.
Man, can I commiserate with you on that, Doc. :(



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