I looked at that piece of hate-mongering trash and the thing that hit me hardest is that I could see no resemblance at all between Davis and Obama. Manipulating pictures so they're both at the same angle does nothing to hide the fact that these two people most emphatically DON'T look alike.

The only possible explanation is Emma's.

Thats what I keep saying. There is no resemblence at all between Davis and Obama. Granted he does not lok a lot like his dad either, but sticking Obamas face beside random black guys and saying "LOOK AT THE RESEMBLENCE!!!" is terminal stupidity.

Dangerous Minds:

Who’s your real Daddy: The new Obama conspiracy theory, mind-rot at its finest!

http://www.dangerousminds.net/comments/ ... its_finest


nothing new to us. Still, I'm happy to see some bloggers go after this stuff.

It used to be different birthers would push different conspiracies - one would say Malclm X was the father, another saying the President was born in Kenya, and another would push Vattel. Berg was a Kenya guy. Donofrio was Vattel/Minor. Etc.

Now I see WND has become the one-stop shop despite the fact that so many are contradictory! WND is pushing this film despite the fact that they're also pushing the "Isn't it fishy that the flight records are missing when Stanley Ann Dunham would have come back from Kenya?" (ignoring that she wouldn't have come right back to Hawaii). But if Frank Marshall Davis, or Malcolm X, or someone else is his father...why keep pushing the Kenya angle? There'd have been no reason for her to go there. It's either one, or the other (it's neither but we're talking birther reality here, not actual reality).

WND and birthers in general seem to have subscribed to Orly's long held belief that she just as to raise "questions" and then she wins. The fact that she has zero proof for any assertion, and that some of them are contradictory, doesn't matter as much as the fact that in some alternate world any of said things COULD be true, and she, and WND, and the Cold Cuts, have such a large list of untrue things that COULD be true given another world, despite the fact that no more than two or three can possibly be true simultaneously, that frogmarching must commence forthwith.

Basicly if a blogger or a newspaper wants to run a smear headline without actually "saying" it, they just stick a question mark at the end. For instance

"Joe Farah has sex with underage Deer and injects raw cocaine into his ass?"

"Jerome Corsi is actually a dwarf wearing a fat suit?"

"World Net Daily; the result of a million monkeys randomly hiting keyboards?"

Its really the height of jackassery.

I think director Joel Gilbert may just be the sort of person who enjoys editing his own Wikipedia page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Co ... weethominy

'Sweethominy' not only created the Gilbert page, but is also responsible for roughly half the edits since its creation. And the only Wikipedia edit that was *not* on Gilbert's page was to add a mention of a Gilbert project on another page.

Looks like that because all of his other edits have been deleted. He was busy creating a page for "Bob dylan Revealed" which, if his other links are anything to go by, would apparently reveal that Bob Dylan is Jesus.

TPM: Batty ‘Birther’ Movie Divides Conspiracy Diehards

They have a highlights reel from the film that's worth watching.

Looks like Wikipedia agreed that Gilbert isn't notable enough:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_gilbert

New video, with a focus on the 'Ann was a nude model' angle:



I'll give Gilbert credit for one thing: he has indeed found more pictures of the nude woman Birthers claim to be Ann. That accomplishment is, frankly, probably the best bit of detective work we've seen from any Birther in four years.

However, based on the covers Gilbert shows, all he's done is debunk his own premise. If I'm right, several of these magazines were published in the 1950s. Which was not only when Ann was under 17, but more importantly, it was before she lived in Hawaii. Davis couldn't be taking nude photos of Ann when she was going to high school in Washington and/or Kansas.

Exotique 2, as shown at about :49 is digital art, not live models. If he's intimating that she's in that mag, he's FOS.

http://www.ballisticpublishing.com/books/exotique_2/

Different "Exotique".

I think you are correct, Loren.

Ob. WND: Was communist mentor intimate with Obama's mother?

FreeRepublic has an increasingly awesome thread on this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2895490/posts

Fred Nerks and MHGinTN, two normally dyed-in-the-wool Birthers, are actually playing the skeptics here. Fred, by pointing out that Obama doesn't really look like Davis, and Marvin, by pointing out that the woman in the photos doesn't really look like Ann.

little jeremiah thinks this is all part of some elaborate conspiracy created BY Obama: "I think this is a disinformation strategy to make it so that Zero is a NBC. IOW, a backup fall back plan. “Ooops - we were wrong about the Kenyan guy but that’s what he was told and look - he’s a NBC after all!”" (Yes, I'm sure Obama's long-term strategy is to claim he was born the son of a 56-year-old Communist who slept with a college girl.)

And DiogenesLamp, who occasionally plays the skeptic himself when other Birthers get patently silly, has instead offered up a ridiculous pseudoscientific defense: the teeth match! Complete with illustration!

I did a bit of checking:

At 0:15, there's a close up of the cover from "Bizarre Life" magazine, Issue #9.

What's interesting is that the Fetish Nostalgia site "30sg.com" has some later issues of that magazine for sale. The oldest being #412, published in 1966. There's an issue #556 from 1968 as well. So we might assume a once a week printing schedule. Which means that #9 would have been out in 1957 or 58.

At 0:19, we have the cover of "Exotique" #6, and at 0:25, the cover of #4. Exotique was printed between 1955 and 1959. 30sq.com has issue #10 - published in 1957.

0:31 shows the cover of "Secret Pleasures" by Carlson Wade. 30sq.com shows that as a photo collection of Exotique - published in 1958

0:40, "Battling Babes". And guess what, it's a Exotique magazine from the mid 50's

0:47, "Exotique" #2. Would have been 1955.

The only thing that Joel Gilbert seems to have proven here is he's got a bit of a vintage porn fetish. And can't tell the difference between early to mid 50's erotica and early 60's material.

I think I despise this line of attack the most. Perhaps I am sentimental about Mothers. Obama put himself out there running for President (not that I think he deserves this birther treatment, just that these days lunatic attacks seem to go with the territory of running for high profile public office and President Obama certainly knew that and made the choice). Not so for his Mother! I think the attacks on her have been despicable. I was going to add that she is not alive (at least those of us in the reality based world think that is the case) and able to defend herself but decided that it is probably better that she not have to endure reading the garbage which is being written about her. I especially hate when they refer to her as a "slut". In the circle of people referring to the President's Mother this way, it would generally be laudable that you married the father of your child (even if you did get pregnant first) and that you actually went through with the pregnancy. This "Dreams of My Real Father" line of attack just makes my blood boil...

I will now dismount from my soapbox. Thanks for the opportunity to vent.

I've been looking at 30sg.com myself. There's a pretty good chance I'll be buying me some vintage erotica tonight. (I've never even bought a Playboy, which means I'll be buying my first sleaze mag in the service of a research project.)

But you've got some of the issues wrong. Without giving the timestamps, here's what I see:

Exotique #2
Exotique #4
Exotique #6
Exotique #14 (1957)
Secret Pleasures (1958)
Battling Babes (1957)
Bizarre Life #9 (1969)

Since Exotique #14 is both the oldest and least expensive to download, I'll report back on what it has. I've also emailed a couple of folks with websites about Leonard Burtman, who published all these magazines, to see if they can identify the mystery woman.

In any case, if she's in a 1957 magazine, then regardless of who she is, Gilbert has successfully proven that she's not the 1942-born Ann. Who was still two years away from moving to Hawaii for the first time.

"Bizarre Life" was the one that threw me for a bit. There seems to have been a late 50's to late 60's magazine with fairly high numbers (again, suggesting a once a week schedule), and then in the late 60's they reset the numbers (and seems to have gone to once a month)

Here #412, dated 1966

Here's a cover for #12, that is dated at 1970. Maybe they reset the numbers when they went to full color?

And I made a typo, that should have been Exotique" #2, not 32.

Getting a new hobby now that birthers are wrapping up?

Here's my question. In what universe does the excuse of "Hmm, there may be a possibility that a sitting President's mother posed nude so I better go check out some vintage porn just in case" work?

I'm sorry, this whole sub-conspiracy one of the lowest things the birthers have ever done. Virginia Sunahara is another.

Oh yeah, it's lowest of the low. But what's fantastic about this is their certainty.

Go listen to Peter Boyles this morning. He's not suggesting that it *might* be Ann. He's not "asking questions" in the standard Birther sense, or trying to avoid making firm statements of fact. He's flat-out declaring that this IS Ann, and that this proves that Obama's lying about his past. (By contrast, notice how Corsi avoids such firm declarations in print.)

So the opportunity to prove them wrong on the rare occasion they absolutely COMMIT to a factual claim is too rich to pass up.

It's almost like they're trying to prove his mother was a jackal that lies buried in some unhallowed ground within view of the Vatican. What hateful, disgusting, despicable creatures they are. They're sub-human.

I've pointed this out before, but a large chunk of the birtherstani's hatred of Stanley Ann Dunham, (which has been around for a long time, anti-semite Andy Martin and nutcase James Manning BOTH attacked SAD in summer of 2008), stems from one major issue.

This is a woman who was married (and had children by) two men of color, an African man and an East Asian man.

This makes her, in the eyes of many racists, a "Race Traitor". And the contempt is aimed at SAD for having "sullied" her white blood, and to her parents for not "having raised her to know better".

Corsi was on Boyles' show this morning, and whenever he talks about Obama's father, he doesn't say "Obama Senior." Rather, he consistently refers to him as "the Kenyan Barack Obama."

The choice of words is extra-odd when you consider that Corsi simultaneously claims that Obama Junior is ALSO a "Kenyan Barack Obama."