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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:45 pm 
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Up until around 2001, North Dakota still used SSN for the Driver's License number. I know, because I still have my ND DL at the time. Took me a couple of month (ok.. a year or so) to get my TX DL. I have no clue that that number is. And I've had it for over 10 years.

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I think it's important to note that using your SSN as your driver's license number was optional in MA until federal regulations prohibited it 2004. There used to be a question on the license application asking if you wanted your driver's license number to be the same as your SSN. I remember the question striking me as very odd--and the idea striking me as very bad--when I replaced my stolen driver's license in 1999.

Susan Daniels says that she was able to obtain a microfiche with other people's driver's license information on it in addition to Obama's. (She mentions something about names being alphabetized.) My guess is that the other numbers were standard MA driver's license numbers--a letter followed by 8 digits. If Obama used his SSN as his driver's license number and the other people listed on the microfiche didn't, his number would have stood out from the rest.

Of course, I'm speculating that this is what happened because all Daniels says in the interview is that the the "CT" SSN is connected to Obama's MA driver's license. However, the fact that his SSN is connected to his driver's license record is not in the least bit interesting or surprising, even for an addle-brained birfoon.


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Susan Daniels says that she was able to obtain a microfiche with other people's driver's license information on it in addition to Obama's. (She mentions something about names being alphabetized.) My guess is that the other numbers were standard MA driver's license numbers--a letter followed by 8 digits. If Obama used his SSN as his driver's license number and the other people listed on the microfiche didn't, his number would have stood out from the rest.


Wait, she got a whole sheet of DL numbers?? How the hell is that legal?

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Just a few months ago when I was bundling my services, an employee at Comcast insisted I had to give him my full SSN. I argued with him and finally said, fine, I'll stick with ATT phone service.

Later, I looked up a previous order and it only asked for last 4 digits (still don't like it). Now I think I should have reported the guy - maybe he is running an identity theft scam on the side...

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Here's a possible explanation about why Susan Daniels, PI, thinks this is astounding: she's a shitty PI.

MA used to give people the option of using their SSN as their driver license number. (They don't any more.) Obama must have chosen to use his SSN for his DL number when he was at Harvard. When Susan Daniels saw that his DL number was the same as his SSN, she probably jumped to the conclusion that the DL had been faked by somebody too stupid to come up with an actual DL number for Obama.


I can only imagine what she would have thought if Obama had his Hawaii Drivers License. For nearly 30+ years, your SSN was your DL # there was well. It wasn't until around 1999 that they moved over to a number they assigned.

In fact, it would be awesome if someone did find out if Obama had a HI DL in his teenage years. And if it has the CT SSN as the DL # ... only puts more proof that its in fact his SSN

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I am almost identical in age to the President. When I was in college, the professors used to post test scores, grades, etc. using your SSN. They would be printed out on those continuous green and white computer printer paper and taped to the wall outside the classroom.

I remember that too. At least it kept people from being embarrassed if they got a bad grade. When I did my UK degree, results were posted by name, so everyone knew who was doing badly.

Imagine that, the young Barack Obama was identified by his SSN. Who'd a thunk it?

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I found that in 2004 an anti-terrorism law made it illegal for states to put SS#'s on drivers licenses.

http://www.ssa.gov/legislation/legis_bu ... 10705.html
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Section 7214. Prohibition of the Display of Social Security Account Numbers on Drivers' Licenses or Motor Vehicle Registrations

Prohibits Federal, State, and local governments from displaying SSNs, or any derivative thereof, on drivers' licenses, motor vehicle registrations, or other identification documents issued by State departments of motor vehicles.


By inference it was legal until that time.


Actually, so far as I know, it was never legal for states or anyone else to require the use of SSNs for purposes other than those directly related to Social Security. That didn't seem to stop states from doing it, though.

The absolute prohibition on the display of SSNs was new, but it was necessitated by incredibly stupid (and IMO already illegal) practices by these local governments.

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Reality Check wrote:
I found that in 2004 an anti-terrorism law made it illegal for states to put SS#'s on drivers licenses.

http://www.ssa.gov/legislation/legis_bu ... 10705.html
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Section 7214. Prohibition of the Display of Social Security Account Numbers on Drivers' Licenses or Motor Vehicle Registrations

Prohibits Federal, State, and local governments from displaying SSNs, or any derivative thereof, on drivers' licenses, motor vehicle registrations, or other identification documents issued by State departments of motor vehicles.


By inference it was legal until that time.


Actually, so far as I know, it was never legal for states or anyone else to require the use of SSNs for purposes other than those directly related to Social Security. That didn't seem to stop states from doing it, though.

The absolute prohibition on the display of SSNs was new, but it was necessitated by incredibly stupid (and IMO already illegal) practices by these local governments.


Amusingly, it wasn't until last year that I finally got a military dependent ID card that didn't have my
SSN, my wife's SSN, and my date of birth on it.

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My university student ID had my SSN as my student ID for four or five years. I hated that policy from the beginning, but they finally changed it right around the time I started law school there, and everyone got new ID cards.

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I will note that the SSN threadjack has gone on for quite a few posts now. =;

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A... ummmmmm... comment from ORYR from an obviously-home-schooled Texan. :lol:

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I am amassed at how little this Country's People "The United States of America" Has grown too let their guard down. My God if my Father and Mother was still alive they would not hassatate for one secound to defend the Constatusion of the part where it says "YOU MUST BE BORN A UNITED STATES CITEZEN". What part of that do you People not under stand. Mr. Obama is not a Citezen of the United States. He was born in a British controlled Country. In 1961 it was not even called Kenya, In 1961 There was no such thing as an African American. Read your History books. Even the term Black did not come about untill the 70's. Im no racist. I had more freinds that we're Black then I did White. I am against Mr. Obama for lieing about where he came from, And he never even applied for a U. S. Citezenship too the U.S. of A. Shame on him. He needs to be removed from the White House and then every thing he has spent of tax payers money repayed. The Man is not legit. He is an undoccumented worker living in the U.S. of A. Illegally. He dose not belong in "OUR WHITE HOUSE"
He can not even show proff of a real Birth Certivicate. He spent over Two Million Dollars covering his past. What kind of an American dose that unless he is hideing some thing... We know he is a phony. Some one needs to do some thing about this. Remove Mr. Obama and every thing in that he has signed into motion since he took Office, Repay back every cent in that He and His Wife have spent of Tax payers money... Seniors get your head out of from under the table and vote this Illegal out of "OUR WHITE HOUSE" And while we are at it VOTE all of these lully gaggin worthless People off of the Capital Hill as well. None have the back bone too stand up too this Phony, He may be some of you're's Commander-In-Cheif. But He will never be mine. And why would any one want to "CHANGE" the way the United States of America is??? Unless you are a Muslim wanting to bring more Muslims to live here. I LOVE THE U.S. JUST THE WAY IT IS, WE DO NOT NEED "CHANGE", SEND THIS MUSLIM BACK TO INDONISA WHERE HE CAME FROM... Mad as hell in Texas.... jop
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Duuuuuude... it's no wonder you believe all the birther BS. You are a total illiterate... a birther's dream follower.

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A... ummmmmm... comment from ORYR from an obviously-home-schooled Texan. :lol:

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In 1961 There was no such thing as an African American. Read your History books. Even the term Black did not come about untill the 70's. Im no racist. I had more freinds that we're Black then I did White.


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Duuuuuude... it's no wonder you believe all the birther BS. You are a total illiterate... a birther's dream follower.


I wonder what he called them, if not "black?"


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A... ummmmmm... comment from ORYR from an obviously-home-schooled Texan. :lol:

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Duuuuuude... it's no wonder you believe all the birther BS. You are a total illiterate... a birther's dream follower.

This is so far over the top that I suspect an artful spoof of Birfoons. Some Birthers will, of course, agree with every word, whatever that word might happen to be.

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realist wrote:
A... ummmmmm... comment from ORYR from an obviously-home-schooled Texan. :lol:

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Duuuuuude... it's no wonder you believe all the birther BS. You are a total illiterate... a birther's dream follower.

This is so far over the top that I suspect an artful spoof of Birfoons. Some Birthers will, of course, agree with every word, whatever that word might happen to be.


Dem birthers sho nuff get punked sumtimes. Doesnt they?

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I agree. It reads like a spoof. Plus, home-schooled does not equate with being illiterate. There are a lot of reasons for being home-schooled including illness or injury.

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realist wrote:
A... ummmmmm... comment from ORYR from an obviously-home-schooled Texan. :lol:

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Duuuuuude... it's no wonder you believe all the birther BS. You are a total illiterate... a birther's dream follower.

This is so far over the top that I suspect an artful spoof of Birfoons. Some Birthers will, of course, agree with every word, whatever that word might happen to be.


It may very well be a spoof, but sadly, I have seen writing like this and worse in real life. I can remember reading, or more accurately trying to read reports written by men who went to school in the 40's and 50's that were almost this bad. They were not ignorant men by no means -- they had mechanical skills that were incredible. I used to joke that there seem to be some kind of inverse correlation between being mechanical inclined and the ability to read and write well. I can read and write but I have no mechanical skills. It's like I have a tactical version of dyslexia when it comes to the connection between my brain and my hands.

This was back in the early 70's where one could get by repairing aircraft (or working the assembly line or some other kind of factory work-- there were hundreds of well-paying hands that were hands-on type work with very little or no reading or writing required. There few, if any computers or computerized test equipment. A few years later and these men could never have gotten into the career fields they did because one had to be able to read to run a lot of the computerized test equipment.

People talk about how much our education has declined since the "good old days." From what I've seen, I think it's more that in the good old days, one could get by without good reading and writing skills. Now, if one can't read or write well, it can't be hidden so easily since almost every job requiring one to use computers and such -- and that requires reading and writing skills.

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You should see my posts before i go though them 3 times to correct the spelling mistakes. Theres a reason i post a lot of funny pictures, they are a hell of a lot less work for one thing.

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Lots of commentary on ORYR lately, love the infighting and how a bunch of our comments make it though.

As I like to poke them, tonight I posted this but unsure if it will make it though:

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Sad for all of you come this November, when Obama is re elected. He will undoubtedly go down in history as one of our greatest presidents, legitimate, and his name will be on great buildings and monuments while his face will most likely end up on money some day.

And there is not a god damn thing any of you can do about it.


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One of my favorite things about birthers is how often they will take a document and simultaneously hold two positions on it - one, that it is a crude forgery, and two, that the document proves some fact about Obama that they find convenient. Consider how often birthers have argued, sometimes in the same sentence, that the birth certificate is a forgery but it also proves that the President's father wasn't a US citizen and therefore Vattel blah blah.

And from ORYR:

Counterfeit Vital Records Indicate Obama Not Born at Hawaii Hospital
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot ... s.html?m=1

Yes! The records are counterfeit AND prove a non-Hawaii hospital birth.

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Sad for all of you come this November, when Obama is re elected. He will undoubtedly go down in history as one of our greatest presidents, legitimate, and his name will be on great buildings and monuments while his face will most likely end up on money some day.

And there is not a god damn thing any of you can do about it.


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Bill - I don't think it's that simple. In 2008, Barack Obama's campaign rode the wave of private funding, along with the ridiculousness of the McCalin campaign, to victory.

This year, with SuperPACs and billionaire-funding the norm, it's not going to be nearly as easy for President Obama. We mustn't lose sight of the importance of running a solid campaign, with a special focus on independents and moderate Repubs, or we might just find ourselves with Foster Friess or Sheldon Adelson pulling some pretty important strings in our lives from that point on.

I am making a personal effort to change a few family members' votes from the marginal to the reasonable. Trying to educate a couple of good people who have the capacity to reason, and who have an incentive to vote with Obama, so I don't look back after November with regret.

We've gotta earn our SorosBucks this year.

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I am making a personal effort to change a few family members' votes from the marginal to the reasonable. Trying to educate a couple of good people who have the capacity to reason, and who have an incentive to vote with Obama, so I don't look back after November with regret.

We've gotta earn our SorosBucks this year.

^^^^ This.

Bravo, jt. =D> Besides the factors you mention above, I think the election of an African-American to the presidency caused a lot of people to rediscover their "inner racist". Getting this President re-elected is going to be tough. I think it's "doable" but it won't be a cake walk, that's for sure.

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jtmunkus wrote:
We've gotta earn our SorosBucks this year.



Oh I know :) I just like to through "assumed certainties" at them on the birther forums, if the post ever makes it through I know it makes 'em burn :)

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