The Birther Report / ORYR

mimi · **Posted:** Sat Sep 17, 2011 5:58 pm

I didn't mean it in the sense of First Amendment. Just that he says:

Quote:

Jerome Corsi wrote:Bran Mak Morn -- You have all the free speech you want here -- telling you and your OBOT cronies that your comments embarrass you -- calling you out for your lies -- that does not limit your free speech rights.

viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1346&start=3350#p289556

which doesn't exactly coincide with what he told cindy as pasted by bob above.

mimi · **Posted:** Sat Sep 17, 2011 6:15 pm

Birfers put up another website:

Birthers Counter-Attack Obama's AttackWatch.COM By Launching AttackWatch.NET

via birfer report:
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot ... bamas.html

but go see it here:
http://www.attackwatch.net/

The photos that flash on the front page are hilarious.

wonder who put that together?

Slartibartfast · **Joined:** Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:52 pm **Posts:** 1557

mimi wrote:

Birfers put up another website:

Birthers Counter-Attack Obama's AttackWatch.COM By Launching AttackWatch.NET

via birfer report:
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot ... bamas.html

but go see it here:
http://www.attackwatch.net/

The photos that flash on the front page are hilarious.

wonder who put that together?

Personally, I'd like to know who was stupid enough to come up with an idea like "AttackWatch.com" and NOT squat on .net and .org at least...

AnitaMaria · **Joined:** Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:41 pm **Posts:** 2132

Slartibartfast wrote:

Personally, I'd like to know who was stupid enough to come up with an idea like "AttackWatch.com" and NOT squat on .net and .org at least...

I think AttackWatch.com was a bad idea that was poorly implemented on a couple of different levels. Hopefully it will die a quick and quiet death.

raicha · **Posted:** Sat Sep 17, 2011 6:36 pm

mimi wrote:

I didn't mean it in the sense of First Amendment. Just that he says:

Quote:

Jerome Corsi wrote:Bran Mak Morn -- You have all the free speech you want here -- telling you and your OBOT cronies that your comments embarrass you -- calling you out for your lies -- that does not limit your free speech rights.

viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1346&start=3350#p289556

which doesn't exactly coincide with what he told cindy as pasted by bob above.

Yes...that's the quote I was talking about. Corsi is generously allowing Bran Mak Morn "free speech rights" which are not his to give or restrict. He's not the government, he's not Facebook and as far as know he is not the moderator at ORYR.

But his ignorance of what the term "free speech rights" means does not surprise me.

bob · **Posted:** Sat Sep 17, 2011 7:05 pm

raicha wrote:

Yes...that's the quote I was talking about. Corsi is generously allowing Bran Mak Morn "free speech rights" which are not his to give or restrict. He's not the government, he's not Facebook and as far as know he is not the moderator at ORYR.

In Corsi's defense, if you post something on Facebook, you can delete any comment made in response to your posting. You can also block people from accessing your page.

chinacreekpj · **Joined:** Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:09 pm **Posts:** 1334

Slartibartfast wrote:

Personally, I'd like to know who was stupid enough to come up with an idea like "AttackWatch.com" and NOT squat on .net and .org at least...

How better to shine a spotlight on the wingnuts than to give them the .net and .org?

Plutodog · **Posted:** Sun Sep 18, 2011 4:41 am

Little Green Footballs said it well:

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article ... ip-Reading

Quote:

Wingnut Blogs Freak Out Over Lip-Reading
Beyond parody
Charles Johnson

Right wing bloggers staged a massive freakout over President Obama’s new AttackWatch website, calling it an “Obama snitch squad” and comparing it to Nazi Germany (of course).

Then these same obsessed bloggers proceeded to demonstrate exactly why the site is necessary, concocting a ludicrous, ugly smear against Michelle Obama based on inept lip-reading of a video.

Foggy · **Posted:** Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:06 am

mimi wrote:

... go see it here:
http://www.attackwatch.net/

The photos that flash on the front page are hilarious.

wonder who put that together?

Marco Ciavolino and Dean Haskins.

mimi · **Posted:** Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:54 am

Foggy wrote:

mimi wrote:

... go see it here:
http://www.attackwatch.net/

The photos that flash on the front page are hilarious.

wonder who put that together?

Marco Ciavolino and Dean Haskins.

I've seen Marco's work before.

Foggy · **Posted:** Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:09 am

mimi wrote:

I've seen Marco's work before.

My evidence:

According to DomainTools, the owner of the site is Terry Lakin Action Fund, which is Ciavolino's site.
The whole page (if you look at the page source) is formatted with tables, not semantic markup. I'm not going into a lot of boring details, but trust me, this is the 1990's way of writing a web page, and Marco uses it consistently, even in the "Enktesis" pages.
The site was built with Microsoft FrontPage from a template, not coded by someone with real talent, like the AttackWatch.com site. Using FrontPage is like being a member of AOL; it puts the Mark of the Noob on your forehead.

Marco is getting a little better, especially after I crammed some criticism down his throat over the garish and ugly Birther Dumbit site he built. But I'm about 90% sure it IS Ciavolino.

Edit: From the "source":

Quote:

Just the first few bits of that are the sign of a Moe Ron.

<meta http-equiv="keywords" content="attackwatch ... />

The right way to write that is

<meta name="keywords" content="attackwatch ... />

The "http-equiv" is actually designed to set http headers (like the character set or when a page expires), but there is no such header as "keywords," so using "http-equiv" instead of "name" here will not do a damned thing to set meta information.

Amateurs. :roll:

Butterfly Bilderberg · **Posted:** Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:20 am

Plus, it bears more than a passing resemblance to the TLAF website.

PatGund · **Posted:** Sun Sep 18, 2011 4:27 pm

mimi wrote:

Birfers put up another website:

Birthers Counter-Attack Obama's AttackWatch.COM By Launching AttackWatch.NET

via birfer report:
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot ... bamas.html

but go see it here:
http://www.attackwatch.net/

The photos that flash on the front page are hilarious.

wonder who put that together?

Well, I posted about the attack watch.net site a little before midnight friday night.

viewtopic.php?f=47&t=6543&start=25#p289390

The Whois on it was the Terry Lakin Action Fund, which makes me suspect it's the same batch of script kiddies that run that site. The HTML is fairly primitive as well.

raicha · **Posted:** Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:18 pm

mimi wrote:

an obot got to them.

Quote:

Today, we visited the Department of Health, and it turned into quite the showdown...

lots more here:
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot ... -jive.html

I just noticed that the headline on this Birther Report entry is "Kapiolani Medical Center Shuck and Jive On Day 2: Hawaii Department of Health Showdown".

Quote:

To shuck and jive" originally referred to the intentionally misleading words and actions that African-Americans would employ in order to deceive racist Euro-Americans in power, both during the period of slavery and afterwards. The expression was documented as being in wide usage in the 1920s, but may have originated much earlier.

(Urban Dictionary)

:lol:

ZekeB · **Posted:** Sun Sep 18, 2011 6:31 pm

MaineSkeptic · **Joined:** Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:48 pm **Posts:** 5295

raicha wrote:

I just noticed that the headline on this Birther Report entry is "Kapiolani Medical Center Shuck and Jive On Day 2: Hawaii Department of Health Showdown".

Quote:

To shuck and jive" originally referred to the intentionally misleading words and actions that African-Americans would employ in order to deceive racist Euro-Americans in power, both during the period of slavery and afterwards. The expression was documented as being in wide usage in the 1920s, but may have originated much earlier.

(Urban Dictionary)

:lol:

You know, Jay Carney raised an eyebrow or two for using the phrase at the 9/7 press briefing.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/ ... _jive.html

realist · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm **Posts:** 23596

SCAM ALERT!!! IT'S [Obama's "Forged" LFBC] A TRAP!!

G. Gordon Liddy sez so (through Jesus H. Corsi). No!! Really!!!

From ORYR.

Another source claims Obama forgery planted in Hawaii DOH
Report comes as Sheriff Joe's posse probes birth record released by White House
[highlight]Jerome Corsi[/highlight]

Quote:

Another Hawaii [highlight]source with inside knowledge[/highlight] has asserted that Obama supporters placed a forged 1961 long-form birth certificate in the vault of the Hawaii Department of Health.

Talk-radio host and former Nixon White House operative [highlight]G. Gordon Liddy told WND[/highlight]that one of his [highlight]trusted informants in Hawaii[/highlight] reported to him that while the document was forged recently, there [highlight]may have been tampering with official Obama birth records as far back as 1978[/highlight].

I know!! Huh?

Quote:

[highlight]Liddy's warning[/highlight]came in response to WND reports that Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio is mobilizing a law enforcement unit with the authority to investigate allegations that the Obama birth certificate released by the White House April 27 is a forgery.

Quote:

[snip earlier source told WND]

That source now says that the White House, by releasing an electronic file of Obama's birth certificate, is laying a trap.

"The computer-generated PDF file was obviously not a scan of an original 1961 birth certificate, so [highlight]predictably it created a brouhaha that the document was forged[/highlight]," :shock:

the source said. "Now, all Obama has to do to get a jump in the polls is to release a true photocopy of the forged 'original' [highlight]to humiliate and destroy the birthers."[/highlight]

I think they do a fine job of that without any help from Obama.

Of course, the Achilles heel to that argument, according to Corsi, is Kapiolani Hospital has never confirmed that Obama's mother was a patient there. =))

BUT WAIT!!! IT GETS EVEN BETTER!!! No. Really!!!

Quote:

Obots forge Obama birth records

Independently, radical Obama supporters known as Obama robots," or "Obots," have made repeated claims that Obama operatives have stolen 1961-era ink and 1961-era security paper in preparation for forging authentic-looking Obama birth records that could pass forensic inspection.

OMG!!! They're dredging up that fake story... again. =))

And WND in it's incredible search for the troof sez Obots forged yet another document in September 2010 to make it look like Obama relinquished his U.S. citizenship while in Indonesia. I know that document was posted here, but have not looked up the link yet.

Quote:

Exhibit 1 shows the [highlight]forged Certificate of Loss of Nationality form[/highlight], :lol:

together with an Obot comment at the bottom suggesting that birthers could be induced to accept the document as legitimate.

And Doc C. gets a shout out on that one. :-bd

Quote:

Exhibit 2 provides additional evidence the Obots were bragging on Obama-supporting websites that the forged CLN form had been created by a poster with the username "Jules." The post was on the Obama Conspiracy Theories website maintained by "Dr. Conspiracy," the Internet alias of Kevin Davidson.

[screenshot of a post by Tolland (you know, the radio guy) copying one by PatGund and everalm. I have not copied it over.]

So let's review... The LFBC that Obama released was not a copy of a real BC but is a fake BC released on purpose so he can then embarrass birthers by releasing yet another (really good) forgery to get a boost in the polls.

But they were too smart to fall for a fake Certificate of Loss of Nationality, so he must still have his U.S. Citizenship... or something.

Wow, these guys are simply brilliant. There's just no fooling them.

Obama must now really, really be SWEATING BULLETS!!! or are they fake/forged bullets?

I haz a confuzzled.

Adrianinflorida · **Posted:** Wed Sep 21, 2011 3:11 am

Or, Fat Jerry and Convict Liddy are both being Punk'd by the same person posing as an 'insider in Hawaii'.

Hektor · **Posted:** Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:16 am

You know, I do teach a fair number of seventeen year olds. Never has it occurred to me to pick one who was born overseas and help them forge records maintained in the government's archives so that 33 years later the American people would make the mistake of voting for them. I guess I make a very poor member of the NWO.

Lola_Getz · **Posted:** Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:21 am

Hektor wrote:

I guess I make a very poor member of the NWO.

Don't feel bad about that. You're still by far the prettiest.

bob · **Posted:** Wed Sep 21, 2011 12:12 pm

Adrianinflorida wrote:

Or, Fat Jerry and Convict Liddy are both being Punk'd by the same person posing as an 'insider in Hawaii'.

Corsi on Teh (New!) Facebook:

Jerome Corsi wrote:

Intelligence sources in Hawaii warn a fake "original 1961" birth certificate has been placed in the Hawaii DOH archives -- ready for release if Sheriff Arpaio's investigation gets too hot for Obama and the White House.

Dolores Moody wrote:

I bet Dr. Corsi's "mole" knows way more than Liddy's source does.

[...]

Aaron Massa wrote:

The forgery has to be the exact same as the one released by Obama, otherwise it will prove that the one online is fake. Right? How can they put a different one in the archives?

Dolores Moody wrote:

Aaron is right, they have to stand behind the forgery they released on April 27. That was the trap Dr. Corsi laid for the Usurper. He personally stood in front of the cameras and said "This is my birth certificate." They can't have a different one now. He owns it. Haven't you listened to Dr. Corsi's radio appearances?

Kaewa Koyangi wrote:

That's why the latest story doesn't seem to add up.

[...]

Dolores Moody wrote:

I'm just guessing here, but I think the stolen Social Security number might be just a side issue, because it doesn't have anything to do with eligibility. I mean, Abe Lincoln didn't have one, lol. It isn't one of the requirements for being president. I think they need to prove ineligibility first and get him out of our White House, and THEN put him in prison for the stolen Social Security number.

Marcia Bergeron wrote:

Good point Dolores.

Emma · **Joined:** Tue Aug 04, 2009 2:25 am **Posts:** 2887

Wait wait wait wait wait ......

Uh...

So Hawai'i has a fake original birth certificate so that IF anyone happens to get to see it, it will match the forged BC provided by the WH. And they stole paper and ink from 1961 to make this forged original back in 1978 when he was only 16/17 years old.

Makes perfect sense.

mimi · **Posted:** Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:08 pm

mikki jumps in too. the birfers have me LOL-ing these days.

realist · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm **Posts:** 23596

Quote:

Jerome Corsi
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=347005

Intelligence sources in Hawaii warn a fake "original 1961" birth certificate has been placed in the Hawaii DOH archives -- ready for release if Sheriff Arpaio's investigation gets too hot for Obama and the White House.

This super-sekrit, we have 100% (or in Berg's case 1,000%) proof of unspeakable misdeeds... sekrit sources inside say... we have documented proof, blah, blah, blah have been going on for over three years now.

Just as back then I ask... if you have all this super-duper incriminating undeniable proof of forgery, Kenyan birth, loss of citizenship, etc., etc., then where the hell is it and WTF are you waiting on to present it? Trot it out for the world to see. Your empty promises grew tiresome a long time ago.

It's the birthers' burden to prove their accusations. STFU and get to it.

If you have it all We the People would love to see it and get that usurpin' mofo out of office.

And don't be whining about no one will listen, everyone's corrupt, we'll all be murdered in our sleep shit... everyone has listened, they've not been corrupt, and there's no evidence anyone has ever even been injured, much less killed, over this "issue."

STFU and bring it on. It's your job/burden/solemn duty to do so as the great American patriots you claim to be. :roll:

meh... I didn't think so.

Lola_Getz · **Posted:** Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:29 pm

Emma wrote:

And they stole paper and ink from 1961 to make this forged original back in 1978 when he was only 16/17 years old.

And who, I wonder, still had paper and ink sitting around since 1961 to make the forgery in 1978 (or 2008 or 2011, for that matter)? I mean, I know some people hoard stuff and all, but it's not like they advertise.

Gawd, these people are desperately, heartbreakingly stoopid. Or insane, or some combination thereof.

Falsehoods unchallenged only fester and grow.

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