I saw that Politico had posted the passport thing yesterday. I went over and not one comment. It had just hit my tweetdeck column though.

I saw it was posted on Yahoo quick something-or-other (I really don't know how I arrived at that page), and there are over 1000 comments now.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/joshgerst ... ml?showall

It seems folks are asking why the date issued and date expires are fuzzed out. Any ideas?

(Mine is that since it's his black diplomatic passport as shown in the video, that the date issued is January 2009. I think the folks making the video thought that would stoke conspiracy nuts because they'd ask why his passport wasn't issued a long time ago.)

I'm thinking it's because it's nobody's business what those dates are. The information shown clearly states who he is and where he was born. What difference does the date of passport issuance make? It has nothing to do with the place of birth or person who the passport is issued to.

WND's senior investigative reporter asks:

How many names does the president have?

Because, as he points out, the COLB says "Barack Hussein Obama II" but on the passport, you only see "Barack Hussein Obama" without the "II". Clearly, this is evidence of identity confusion.

He also writes "The White House's display of Obama's passport Friday did not include documentation submitted to the State Department to obtain the passport or any previous U.S. passports the president may have been issued since childhood." Because a YouTube video answering the question 'Does the President get his passport stamped when he travels' is obviously missing something when it fails to show his passport application and supporting documentation.

No matter what you show them, they will never be satisfied. They refuse to accept and understand that the passport itself is proof of the supporting information provided to obtain it, just like the signature and the seal on a birth certificate copy are proof of the original. They refuse to accept and understand that the reason for these documents is so a person does not have to carry around a folio of supporting information, nor manage to keep alive a witness to their birth. Birther leadership plays on the ignorance of their followers of what a passport or birth certificate means. You don't have to show the birth certificate you used, or prior passports or the application or the receipt.

Take a look at the label on the folder.

I chuckled immediately because it says "POTUS Passports" on it.

By the way, just to further illustrate how stupid Corsi's latest piece is about the "II" after Obama's name, I offer you Obama's marriage certificate and his driver's license record. Neither uses the "II."

So obviously, this is evidence of a conspiracy of some kind. According to Corsi.

I thought it might be useful for discussion purposes to have Orly's Motion for Reconsiferation linked here as well, since much of it revolves around the passport video.

Also, see GG's debunking of several of the fraud claims, here.

Part of the birfer "critique":


Yet Orly says, higher up in the same document:


This juxtaposition is an exquisite example of the wingnut "mind" at work.

The redacted stuff is proof of fraud. There's no reason (that their pea brain can think of) for it to be redacted, so it must be suspicious.

But the un-redacted stuff is proof of fraud, too.

YET AGAIN I have to wonder how these people get through a day. The world must be a bafflingly confusing place.

It's a conspiracy of proper etiquette. My Grandfather was a Sr, my dad was a Jr, my brother was a III. When Sr. died, no one changed names. When III died, my dad dropped the Jr in social usage.

I'm a Jr. and I was planning on dropping it when my dad passes away ...



... until Foggy III came along.

Now it would confuse the kid. Or he might think he should get to move up.

The really funny part of it is this:



A new low in WND birfer stoopid. LEGALLY AUTHORIZED? Is there some little-known Federal agency which authorizes the use of names? If there is, lots of people are in BIG trouble:

The AG and former governor of my state is "Jerry" Brown. His "real" name isn't Jerry. His father was "Pat" Brown. His "real" name wasn't Pat.

Bill Clinton's "real" name isn't Bill. It isn't even Clinton. Same for "Jerry" Ford. Not a "Jerry" and not a "Ford."

On a personal level, my "real" name isn't Bob. Also, I'm a "Jr." My name on my BC is the same as my dad's except for the "Jr." But that wasn't my dad's "real" name. He Anglicized his name when he came to the U.S., AND NOBODY AUTHORIZED HIM to use a different name, except for my grandparents. There's no "Jr." on my college diploma, since I didn't think anyone would confuse me with my father. The name on my mom's high school diploma isn't the same as the name on her BC, and isn't the same as on her nursing school diploma. She Anglicized her name in high school, but changed her mind and went back to using her original, "ethnic" name, AND NOBODY AUTHORIZED HER TO DO SO.

IANAL, but perhaps a PJ lawyer could give me an idea of how much trouble we're in?

EDIT: Fixed spelling and punctuation. Usually, I'm obsessive about that. Don't know what happened.

The Freepers are makin' shit up again.

I'm baned, so I can't point out that the guy who made it all up in the first place shows his passport and no city is listed.

Funny, when new people post here, we welcome them.

If their first post is also informative, we congratulate and welcome them.

Freepers are trash.

:::giggle::: I've had more "legally authorized" names than a certain someone has ex-wives ... (and, once the various publicly-available "background"/credit reporting companies were done "butchering" all of them, the number has expanded yet again to about twice as many ...)

Right now, I have three different ("authorized"/required) names, depending on the context...

Anyone who has a passport knows it says state and USA, but no city. I am fucking sick and tired of people who have never had a passport opining about what is "ordinary".

Tes - I know you're married, so if you could send around one of the other-named woman I'd like to take her to dinner.

Well, Hektor, being the creative, pretty individual that he is, likes to have fun with points programs and the like when they send him their informative newsletters that do not at all resemble the junk mail and the like. Some companies, much to their consternation, have made the mistake of allowing Hektor to have his own custom honorific, rather than the traditional Mr./Mrs./Ms./Dr. So at certain times Hektor still receives mail directed to Lord Hektor, Duke of the Realm and so forth. Of course given the Nickle Resolution, I's might appear as some sort of illegitimate usurper of peerage according to birfer logic.

I guess I'm OK. "Darkish European". A bit darker than "light Middle-Eastern". But I don't pass the "brown paper-bag test", except on my butt.

I took that one apart earlier today over there in Freeperville.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/ ... ge=451#457

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My passport has the city first.
Then it says "Canada", lol.

I still have my cancelled passports dating back to '86. They, and my current active passport, all say "Georgia, USA" as my birthplace.

No Canada though, although it states on my oldest passport that it was issued in Miami, and the next two say London. I'm sure I lose some "real American" points for that.

Your correction --- or, rather, a response to your correction made Orly's blog!
xxxhttp://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=13184

I'd like to toot my own horn for a moment, and point out that I predicted this complaint on Monday: