Ex-Con Terry Lakin

Foggy · **Posted:** Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:22 pm

TollandRCR wrote:

... many on TFB have a vocabulary as least as large as Black's.

That's no reason to be thrasonical.

BFB · **Posted:** Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:44 pm

Maru wrote:

Lakin wants his benefits back.

http://www.military.com/news/article/bi ... efits.html

Only slightly OT: This site, Military.com, is the same site which apparently awarded Admiral Fitzgibbons a "Distinguished Site" award for his Jaghunter site. I've emailed them and their parent company a few times asking about this, but I've never received a response.

esseff44 · **Posted:** Tue Jun 28, 2011 6:18 pm

TollandRCR wrote:

ZorbasLeGreque wrote:

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Second, this does not sound like a thesaurus fiend.

It helps if you get to make up your own words. "Prosecutocracy" appeared in Schott's Vocab with no attribution other than to Black. Apart from that, I would bet that many on TFB have a vocabulary as least as large as Black's. The difference is that we put our vocabularies to much better use.

Here's a recent quote about his lordship's expansive vocabulary:

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Wealthy, powerful, well-connected and the owner of influential newspapers on both sides of the Atlantic, it all made him a frequent subject of media profiles. Canadians and Britons were flooded with articles that profiled his imperial lifestyle, his glamorous wife, his perennial perch among the A-list of the world's Who's Who, his love of suing anyone who crossed him, his merciless business tactics, and his love of a vast vocabulary that seemed to have its roots somewhere in the 19th century.

And he was tutoring his fellow inmates to earn good-time points:

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Prosecutors said Black should be returned to jail, and cited his lack of remorse. Affidavits filed by two prison workers also allege Black shirked tutorial duties while in jail and gathered an entourage of inmates who acted like servants to him.

For his part, Black soundly rejected the claims by the two prison workers that he was not a model inmate. His lawyer filed documents ahead of sentencing touting Black's contributions to the community during his time at Coleman, and his continued support of its students after he was released last year.

Here's the recap of his rise and fall:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/black ... -fall.html

I remember getting interested in the case about the time of the Scooter Libby trial. It was the same prosecutor who went back to Chicago to deal with the Black trial.

Sterngard Friegen · **Posted:** Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:59 pm

Black's writing is turgid and tumescent.

listeme · **Posted:** Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:14 pm

Oh, man. I could tell you stories.

But I won't because that would be off-topic ;;)

RTH10260 wrote:

verbalobe wrote:

TollandRCR wrote:

ZorbasLeGreque wrote:

I remember him having one of largest english vocabularies of all living persons.

How would anybody know this? If it is inferred from his written work, he could just be a thesaurus fiend. (Thesaurus fiends are a peeve of mine: If the word did not come naturally to you, then it is likely that you are not using the word correctly.)

What a preposterously tantamount ascertainment!

Can one use any word incorrectly in Scrabble ?

raicha · **Posted:** Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:38 pm

BFB wrote:

Maru wrote:

Lakin wants his benefits back.

http://www.military.com/news/article/bi ... efits.html

Only slightly OT: This site, Military.com, is the same site which apparently awarded Admiral Fitzgibbons a "Distinguished Site" award for his Jaghunter site. I've emailed them and their parent company a few times asking about this, but I've never received a response.

I emailed military.com a few weeks back to ask them to review the site. They replied that they would look into it. But the designation remains. I have concluded that military.com doesn't mind a little violent right-wing nutjobbery if the site also has cool pictures of military heroes.

Slartibartfast · **Joined:** Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:52 pm **Posts:** 1557

ZorbasLeGreque wrote:

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Maru wrote:

Lakin wants his benefits back.

http://www.military.com/news/article/bi ... efits.html

I really do not understand the reason why Lakin (and other evildoers like policemen who do not finish their 20 years) lose all of their pension. In my understanding a pension is not a gift but part of the income-package.

Must it always be "all or nothing" ? A pension pro rata temporis is much more just.

Depending on your employer, your pension plan 'vests' at a certain point - after which you are entitled to something even if you leave the company. For the military, that doesn't happen until you have 20 years of service (for most private corporations I think that it is closer to 5 years...).

realist · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm **Posts:** 23562

ZorbasLeGreque wrote:

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Maru wrote:

Lakin wants his benefits back.

http://www.military.com/news/article/bi ... efits.html

I really do not understand the reason why Lakin (and other evildoers like policemen who do not finish their 20 years) lose all of their pension. In my understanding a pension is not a gift but part of the income-package.

Must it always be "all or nothing" ? A pension pro rata temporis is much more just.

Policemen and others who do not complete their 20 do not necessarily lose their pensions.

As for Lakin, it is one of the possible punishments laid out for violating military law, which he did, and in his case is deserved.

PaulG · **Posted:** Sun Jul 03, 2011 2:33 pm

Sterngard Friegen wrote:

Black's writing is turgid and tumescent.

And probably turbid and turpid.

TollandRCR · **Posted:** Sun Jul 03, 2011 2:46 pm

Slartibartfast wrote:

Depending on your employer, your pension plan 'vests' at a certain point - after which you are entitled to something even if you leave the company. For the military, that doesn't happen until you have 20 years of service (for most private corporations I think that it is closer to 5 years...).

Some pension plans (e.g., the academic TIAA/CREF plans) are portable from employer to employer and vest immediately. Thanks be to Andrew Carnegie and the people who helped him design this program as a replacement for the Carnegie Foundation's free but meager pensions. Plans for non-academic state employees often do not vest until at least five years of service and may be larger with longer terms of service, even at constant salary. Note that these pension plans are in addition to Social Security.

BFB · **Posted:** Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:24 am

raicha wrote:

BFB wrote:

Maru wrote:

Lakin wants his benefits back.

http://www.military.com/news/article/bi ... efits.html

Only slightly OT: This site, Military.com, is the same site which apparently awarded Admiral Fitzgibbons a "Distinguished Site" award for his Jaghunter site. I've emailed them and their parent company a few times asking about this, but I've never received a response.

I emailed military.com a few weeks back to ask them to review the site. They replied that they would look into it. But the designation remains. I have concluded that military.com doesn't mind a little violent right-wing nutjobbery if the site also has cool pictures of military heroes.

Good for you for at least getting a response. They completely ignored me ...

Mikedunford · **Posted:** Mon Jul 04, 2011 4:47 pm

ZorbasLeGreque wrote:

[q

Maru wrote:

Lakin wants his benefits back.

http://www.military.com/news/article/bi ... efits.html

I really do not understand the reason why Lakin (and other evildoers like policemen who do not finish their 20 years) lose all of their pension. In my understanding a pension is not a gift but part of the income-package.

Must it always be "all or nothing" ? A pension pro rata temporis is much more just.

There's been discussion about changing the 20-or-0 military retirement system for years now, but there are a lot of issues involved that will need to be addressed first - particularly since military retirees can currently begin to collect that pension immediately upon retirement. Realistically, I can't see them ever going to a plan that vests in less than 10 years, both for reasons of expense and to provide a reason to encourage people to stay for more than the minimal commitment.

Even if Lakin had more than 20 years in, however, he would still have lost the pension. That's part of the price for leaving the service dishonorably.

Slartibartfast · **Joined:** Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:52 pm **Posts:** 1557

Mikedunford wrote:

Even if Lakin had more than 20 years in, however, he would still have lost the pension. That's part of the price for leaving the service dishonorably.

They should give his pension to the soldiers who were impacted by his cowardly actions.

Plutodog · **Posted:** Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:15 pm

Slartibartfast wrote:

Mikedunford wrote:

Even if Lakin had more than 20 years in, however, he would still have lost the pension. That's part of the price for leaving the service dishonorably.

They should give his pension to the soldiers who were impacted by his cowardly actions.

And their survivors. :evil:

Foggy · **Posted:** Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:37 am

His American flag haz a sad. :-({|=

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My thoughts are that my small flag, feels the looming morass of difficulty that our country seems to continue to plunge headstrong into with many informed people knowing the outcome will likely be dire, not the promised utopia and free country as we knew in our generation ...

As we near July 4th, Independence Day, the birth of our Country, perhaps the flag will perk up and be the clean crisp snapping-in-the-wind-flag that I love to see ... Perhaps the re-dedication to God instead of the constant edging God out,· the re-dedication to the Family, instead of the blurring and confusing message of what a family is and who can best raise children.

I always thought people who don't get convicted of crimes, lose their jobs and spend months in prison are those "who can best raise children," but that's just me.

Foggy · **Posted:** Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:25 am

I wonder if his flag perked up any yesterday ... ?

... or if it cried itself to sleep last night, thinking about how this nation has turned away from the One True Christian God.

PatGund · **Posted:** Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:30 am

Foggy wrote:

I wonder if his flag perked up any yesterday ... ? (

IS Lakin's flag like Orly's Yahoo??

verbalobe · **Posted:** Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:09 am

Foggy wrote:

His American flag haz a sad. :-({|=

Quote:

My thoughts are that my small flag, feels the looming morass of difficulty that our country seems to continue to plunge headstrong into with many informed people knowing the outcome will likely be dire, not the promised utopia and free country as we knew in our generation ...

As we near July 4th, Independence Day, the birth of our Country, perhaps the flag will perk up and be the clean crisp snapping-in-the-wind-flag that I love to see ... Perhaps the re-dedication to God instead of the constant edging God out,· the re-dedication to the Family, instead of the blurring and confusing message of what a family is and who can best raise children.

I always thought people who don't get convicted of crimes, lose their jobs and spend months in prison are those "who can best raise children," but that's just me.

We were promised a utopia?

I thought we were promised opportunity.

Apparently when certain people capitalize on their opportunities, certain other people haz a mad.

Whatever4 · **Posted:** Tue Jul 05, 2011 10:15 am

He wants to pass a nylon flag to his son? Bet it was made in China.

BFB · **Posted:** Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:19 pm

Foggy wrote:

I wonder if his flag perked up any yesterday ... ?

Is that what the kids are calling it these days??

SueDB · **Posted:** Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:46 pm

PatGund wrote:

Foggy wrote:

I wonder if his flag perked up any yesterday ... ? (

IS Lakin's flag like Orly's Yahoo??

After 5 months in the pokey and trying to placate a wife who knows he just blew 2+ millions in retirement on some stupid shit even worse than a whoring trip to BangCOCK (he said...cock...uhhhuhh). I am sure Lakin's flag flys quite a bit like Orly's Yahoo?? No one anywhere in the world can find a rhyme or reason for it.

realist · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm **Posts:** 23562

From TLAF

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[highlight]Jack Cashil[/highlight]l, author of numerous books offered to assist Terry in telling his story and has been gathering facts and background information on a daily basis. You can read more about Jack at his partner profile (click here to read his profile). In addition, [highlight]David Mercaldo, a New York based author will be interviewing and writing the supporter vignettes[/highlight]. You can learn more about David at his website (http://www.davidmercaldo.com).

The book will be titled, "[highlight]OFFICER'S OATH[/highlight]."

The book will have the following key sections:

Preface and Introduction
Terry's story from his early years and his path to the decision and beyond.
[highlight]18 or more vignettes of key individuals who have supported and assisted Terry in his decison[/highlight].
6 more essays on issues relative to Terry's decision.
The art, news, and humor of the eligibility issue.
General supporting resources.

Overall it will be a unique book and an engaging story.· Having read the first eight chapters we can confirm it will be of great interest to supporters, detractors, and those who may have had little contact with the issues for which Terry has stood.

The book will be privately p[highlight]ublished by Paperclip Press[/highlight] (http://www.paperclippress.com) on Terry's behalf.

[highlight]The publication date is tentatively set for early September, 2011[/highlight]. It will be available for direct purchase from Paperclip Press and available on Amazon, B&N, Waldenbooks, and others in both print and electronic versions. Reseller accounts will be available at industry standard rates for bulk sales and resale. Please see the contact page at Paperclip Press for instructions. Pre-sales are likely to begin in early August.

Officer's Oath for a title. Over/under on whether the book includes the fact he violated it. :-k

Foggy · **Posted:** Sun Jul 10, 2011 9:29 am

Paperclip Press = discount self publishing

I'm shocked, shocked, I tell you, that he wasn't able to find a major publisher.

RTH10260 · **Posted:** Sun Jul 10, 2011 9:46 am

Foggy wrote:

Paperclip Press = discount self publishing

I'm shocked, shocked, I tell you, that he wasn't able to find a major publisher.

WND must still be chewing on Jerome Corsi's heritage of WTBC.

PS. "WTBC" sounds like some boxing or wrestling championship. I guess wrestling may hit home, wrestling with the truth ...

Maru · **Posted:** Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:41 pm

Mercaldo was the man with the bad toupee in the patch article and video. His wife Linda was the heavily accented blonde His website is hilarious, unintentionally so.

Falsehoods unchallenged only fester and grow.

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