Birther Potpourri

Whatever4 · **Posted:** Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:07 pm

OK, let's get serious a minute. (On a Friday at 6:00 -- right.)

Are there any "special reports" that need to be written in advance of an anticipated heightened state of awareness of the birther issue in the coming weeks? (Diagram THAT, Mrs. English Teacher.)

Thanks,
The Home Page Team.

lyssandri · **Posted:** Fri Mar 30, 2012 6:11 pm

Fun little chuckle from TV last night. On"Person ov Interest" last night, our heroes were trying to figure out which of two people using the same SSN was the real one. One hero says to the other "Shouldn't we be able to track down a birth certificate for one of them?" to which his partner responds "Long-form birth certificates are hard to get a hold of."

Now, I doubt the writers intended that to be some kind of dig at birthers, but I could just imagine a birther hearing that and demanding a boycott of the show or that the writers be arrested for helping Obama perpetrate this great fraud by deliberately misinforming people or some such nonsense. It just cracked me up

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Foggy · **Posted:** Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:07 pm

Whatever4 wrote:

OK, let's get serious a minute. (On a Friday at 6:00 -- right.)

Are there any "special reports" that need to be written in advance of an anticipated heightened state of awareness of the birther issue in the coming weeks? (Diagram THAT, Mrs. English Teacher.)

Thanks,
The Home Page Team.

That's a hell of a good question. Lemme ponder, and others are invited to pitch ideas too. Maybe one about the state ballot challenges so far? We can always add to it after Mississippi and whatever comes after that. Not only can you do New Hampshire from personal recollection, we have good video of Georgia and Indiana around the forum somewhere.

I think it's a fascinating storyline, the near violence in New Hampshire, Orly foisting the transcript and exhibits from Georgia on everybody she can think of while keeping it Top Sekrit that the judge ruled it was all crap, the psychological thumping she took in Indiana ...

I have a weird hobby. :oops:

borealis · **Posted:** Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:36 pm

Foggy wrote:

Whatever4 wrote:

OK, let's get serious a minute. (On a Friday at 6:00 -- right.)

Are there any "special reports" that need to be written in advance of an anticipated heightened state of awareness of the birther issue in the coming weeks? (Diagram THAT, Mrs. English Teacher.)

Thanks,
The Home Page Team.

That's a hell of a good question. Lemme ponder, and others are invited to pitch ideas too. Maybe one about the state ballot challenges so far? We can always add to it after Mississippi and whatever comes after that. Not only can you do New Hampshire from personal recollection, we have good video of Georgia and Indiana around the forum somewhere.

I think it's a fascinating storyline, the near violence in New Hampshire, Orly foisting the transcript and exhibits from Georgia on everybody she can think of while keeping it Top Sekrit that the judge ruled it was all crap, the psychological thumping she took in Indiana ...
I have a weird hobby. :oops:

These would definitely make some nice sound bytes for Feinstein campaign ads. And unlike, Romney's sound bytes against the President, these would be true.

verbalobe · **Posted:** Fri Mar 30, 2012 9:00 pm

Whatever4 wrote:

OK, let's get serious a minute. (On a Friday at 6:00 -- right.)

Are there any "special reports" that need to be written in advance of an anticipated heightened state of awareness of the birther issue in the coming weeks? (Diagram THAT, Mrs. English Teacher.)

Thanks,
The Home Page Team.

Random thoughts (either would require work, as I don't believe these exist ready-made):

Anything on election law re: CA senatorial campaign, finance reporting, and correspondingly, anything about non-profits, tax requirements, etc. Are Orly's donors taking tax deductions? Are they giving to her campaign? To her personally? To DOFF? Does DOFF exist? (I wish Ellie were here.)
A compendium of Orly's most contumacious conduct

Separately, I assume that to the extent there is an actual hearing in MS, our crowd-sourced transcript team is prepared to swing into action. :-bd

gimmeabreak · **Joined:** Sat Jan 24, 2009 12:36 pm **Posts:** 399

The pretty insane Starla, who posts over at Citizen Wells, appears to have finally stepped off the cliff completely. Poor woman.

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2012/ ... ent-232307

borealis · **Posted:** Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:34 pm

gimmeabreak wrote:

The pretty insane Starla, who posts over at Citizen Wells, appears to have finally stepped off the cliff completely. Poor woman.

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2012/ ... ent-232307

Anyone out there have some long-sleeved white jackets and butterfly nets? This girlie needs a ride to Bellevue PDQ. That is one of the sickest and most misspelled rants I've read in a long time.

mimi · **Posted:** Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:41 pm

gimmeabreak wrote:

The pretty insane Starla, who posts over at Citizen Wells, appears to have finally stepped off the cliff completely. Poor woman.

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2012/ ... ent-232307

The next two:

Quote:

Starla | April 1, 2012 at 7:54 pm |

Mr. Wells,

Please do not post this comment:

Starla | April 1, 2012 at 7:49 pm |

It is not meant to be posted here. It was sent here by accident as I am in my emails and my computer is having trouble and it clicked itself and it was sent here….as I had an open window here and it posted itself here…how strange…. somehow….and I don’t know why it did this – I didn’t click and send it here!!

Thank you….Starla

borealis · **Posted:** Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:48 pm

mimi wrote:

gimmeabreak wrote:

The pretty insane Starla, who posts over at Citizen Wells, appears to have finally stepped off the cliff completely. Poor woman.

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2012/ ... ent-232307

The next two:

Quote:

Starla | April 1, 2012 at 7:54 pm |

Mr. Wells,

Please do not post this comment:

Starla | April 1, 2012 at 7:49 pm |

It is not meant to be posted here. It was sent here by accident as I am in my emails and my computer is having trouble and it clicked itself and it was sent here….as I had an open window here and it posted itself here…how strange…. somehow….and I don’t know why it did this – I didn’t click and send it here!!

Thank you….Starla

Looks like she's got Orly's computer gremlin. :twisted:

everalm · **Posted:** Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:03 pm

Meeeeh,

Starla posts worse and more guano at Dr K(H)ates each and every day........

gimmeabreak · **Joined:** Sat Jan 24, 2009 12:36 pm **Posts:** 399

The thing with Starla is (even if she's now claiming it's not her today) is that no one ever seems to think there's anything wrong with her rants. I truly am amazed every day at the alternate reality that is birtherdom. I'm still not sure whether I'm glad to be able to witness it or am just as insane witnessing it.

PatGund · **Posted:** Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:06 pm

gimmeabreak wrote:

The pretty insane Starla, who posts over at Citizen Wells, appears to have finally stepped off the cliff completely. Poor woman.

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2012/ ... ent-232307

Well, her posts have always been the birther version of a Dr. Bronner's soap label.

Loren · **Joined:** Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:20 pm **Posts:** 3891

So last week, I ended up driving myself to the ER and was diagnosed with kidney stones. Today I went to see a urologist. As I was leaving the hospital, I discovered that my parking fee was going to be $5 regardless, so I thought I'd take advantage of being there.

Because, you see, this hospital is also the same hospital where I was born, in 1978. I made my way up to Medical Records, and inquired as to whether it would be possible for me to get copies of the medical records of my birth.

The answer: no.

And not for HIPAA reasons; I was told that didn't matter given that it's *my* birth. The obstacle is that the hospital only keeps records for, and I quote, "10 years".

That's right. My birth hospital can't produce records of MY birth 33 years ago, because they long ago disposed of those records. And I'm 17 years younger than the President. I'd better hope that no one ever questions my birth certificate.

DaveMuckey · **Posted:** Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:53 pm

Loren wrote:

Because, you see, this hospital is also the same hospital where I was born, in 1978. I made my way up to Medical Records, and inquired as to whether it would be possible for me to get copies of the medical records of my birth.

The answer: no.

And not for HIPAA reasons; I was told that didn't matter given that it's *my* birth. The obstacle is that the hospital only keeps records for, and I quote, "10 years".

That's right. My birth hospital can't produce records of MY birth 33 years ago, because they long ago disposed of those records. And I'm 17 years younger than the President. I'd better hope that no one ever questions my birth certificate.

Since you can't prove you were born there, do you still have kidney stones?

Whatever4 · **Posted:** Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:09 pm

Question: how can I tell if and when someone, say a random president, was admitted to practice in a Court of Appeals or other jurisdiction?

bob · **Posted:** Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:38 pm

Whatever4 wrote:

Question: how can I tell if and when someone, say a random president, was admitted to practice in a Court of Appeals or other jurisdiction?

A (polite) call to the clerk of the court should do the trick.

DeeLite · **Posted:** Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:42 pm

Loren wrote:

That's right. My birth hospital can't produce records of MY birth 33 years ago, because they long ago disposed of those records. And I'm 17 years younger than the President. I'd better hope that no one ever questions my birth certificate.

what about those who were born in Hospitals that don't exist anymore? The hospital my cousin was born in was demolished to make way for the Hawaii Prince Hotel (it was an awesome demolition to watch).

Joseph Robidoux III · **Posted:** Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:58 pm

Missouri state Representative Tim Jones (R-Eureka) has an "Oops" moment! The Speaker-elect changed his Twitter handle and forgot to secure the old one.

St Louis Post Dispatch wrote:

The parody account — @LeaderJones — lists it as the account of "Birther Tim Jones," and says it is a "Parody of Orly Taitz endorsed, Speker-to-be (sic) Tim Jones of Missouri. Lover of Cheetos."
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/colu ... 0f31a.html

mimi · **Posted:** Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:19 pm

Joseph Robidoux III wrote:

Missouri state Representative Tim Jones (R-Eureka) has an "Oops" moment! The Speaker-elect changed his Twitter handle and forgot to secure the old one.

St Louis Post Dispatch wrote:

The parody account — @LeaderJones — lists it as the account of "Birther Tim Jones," and says it is a "Parody of Orly Taitz endorsed, Speker-to-be (sic) Tim Jones of Missouri. Lover of Cheetos."
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/colu ... 0f31a.html

oh yeah! Tim has his very own topic here:
viewtopic.php?f=25&t=3572

And that's only the stuff after he got his own topic.

Joseph Robidoux III · **Posted:** Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:00 pm

Sterngard Friegen · **Posted:** Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:09 pm

DeeLite wrote:

what about those who were born in Hospitals that don't exist anymore? The hospital my cousin was born in was demolished to make way for the Hawaii Prince Hotel (it was an awesome demolition to watch).

Have you seen "Back to the Future"? Your cousin should be fading from all the family photos about now.

mimi · **Posted:** Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:38 am

Quote:

RT @davidfrum: I asked audience at spy museum conspiracy evening: how many of you r "Truthers"? About 80%. Birthers? Only half a dozen.

mimi · **Posted:** Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:44 am

mimi wrote:

Quote:

RT @davidfrum: I asked audience at spy museum conspiracy evening: how many of you r "Truthers"? About 80%. Birthers? Only half a dozen.

Edit: I posted too quickly. David Frum had a bunch of tweets about his museum thing. I'm gonna post all below.

It's twitter, so read from bottom up.

davidfrum ‏ @davidfrum

Quote:

Anyway full blogpost on event going up in AM. Congrats to @jonkay for his aplomb ....
36m davidfrum davidfrum ‏ @davidfrum

RT @Gomez163: @davidfrum FDR totally knew, man / But Bilderberg hadn't even been invented yet!
38m davidfrum davidfrum ‏ @davidfrum

Interestingly, not much interest in Pearl Harbor conspiracies tonight. Everything goes out of style.
39m davidfrum davidfrum ‏ @davidfrum

Both Birthers and Truthers offended when I asked how many doubted modern medicine. Altho of course almost whole room did ...
40m davidfrum davidfrum ‏ @davidfrum

Truthers VERY offended to be conflated w Birthers.
40m davidfrum davidfrum ‏ @davidfrum

I asked audience at spy museum conspiracy evening: how many of you r "Truthers"? About 80%. Birthers? Only half a dozen.
5h davidfrum davidfrum ‏ @davidfrum

@acoyne No, @jonkay is the front man for the sinister secret forces that actually control the comments page of the National Post.
In reply to Andrew Coyne
5h davidfrum davidfrum ‏ @davidfrum

What a gift to cranks is Power Point.
5h davidfrum davidfrum ‏ @davidfrum

Event at spy museum puts @jonkay on same platform as 9/11 crank Webster Tarpley. I'd never hrd of him, but he has a fan base, and all r here
5h davidfrum davidfrum ‏ @davidfrum

Audience at spy museum event seems almost 100% insane. My friend @jonkay takes it all w aplomb however ...
6h davidfrum davidfrum ‏ @davidfrum

Danger is that after this event, I may "know too much"
7h davidfrum davidfrum ‏ @davidfrum

About to moderate event at spy museum on conspiracy theories - CSPAN expected, they SAY

https://twitter.com/#!/davidfrum/

neonzx · **Joined:** Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:27 am **Posts:** 4216

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/fox-anchor-tweets-post-suggesting-obama-plotted-to

Quote:

04:22 PM EDT
FOX Anchor Tweets Post Suggesting Obama Plotted To Murder Chelsea Clinton

A FOX News anchor tweeted to followers on Tuesday to ask their take on a fringe conspiracy site's suggestion that President Obama threatened to kill Chelsea Clinton in order to cover up a forged birth certificate.

The anchor, Heather Childers, asked: "Thoughts? Did Obama Campaign Threaten Chelsea Clinton's Life 2 Keep Parents Silent?"with a link to the post on birther hub Godfatherpolitics.com. When confronted on Twitter by liberal watchdog Media Matters, Childers responded:"I know Media Matters strives 2b FACTUALLY correct so attach the article plz. I was asking 4 opinion."

TPM reached out to FOX News for comment and will post their reply.

Bob Weber · **Joined:** Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:26 pm **Posts:** 685

DeeLite wrote:

Loren wrote:

That's right. My birth hospital can't produce records of MY birth 33 years ago, because they long ago disposed of those records. And I'm 17 years younger than the President. I'd better hope that no one ever questions my birth certificate.

what about those who were born in Hospitals that don't exist anymore? The hospital my cousin was born in was demolished to make way for the Hawaii Prince Hotel (it was an awesome demolition to watch).

Me, too. The hospital where I was born was demolished 50+ years ago. Nothing there now except a plaque commemorating its site, and the fact that a politico from a prominent local family was born there.

Falsehoods unchallenged only fester and grow.

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