Birther Potpourri

mimi · **Posted:** Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:49 pm

This is from Gary Wilmott's "Give Us Liberty" blog.

His post is titled "AMERICANS SPEAK OUT!... " and is a bunch of the regular birther quotes you'd expect from Gary's blog. And then there's this. (The All Caps belong to Gary, of course):

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AND THEN WE HAVE THESE COMMENTS FROM A 15 YEAR-OLD NO LESS...THIS IS WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH...TALK ABOUT DELUSIONAL AND BRAINWASHED...OH MY! SEE FOR YOURSELF...CLUELESS...

Let's not be biased, shall we? Instead of a website bashing people, why don't the reveal things conservatives and Republicans have done? Is this a website to sway people's opinions? It is stated as a site that is used to inform, not persuade. Don't sit around and point the blame at everyone else when it was people like you that got us into this mess. AKA, Conservatives. The time for the past is gone, the world is moving forward and so is America.

As to Obama: He is a legal United States Citizen, was born in the U.S.A., lived in the U.S.A., etc. If you sit there and think he somehow got past the government (at the time before he was elected was ruled by a REPUBLICAN), you are an idiot. End of story. How could you fake a Hawaiian newspaper article from 1967 saying he was born? You can't go back in time; your insides would flip outside your body. That's a ridiculous claim, stop fishing for stupid and untrue things like that. Also, do you not think that the government would do a background check on him? Duh. Finally, hell, if he's smart enough to outsmart the government, that's not your average Joe. I'd like to have someone that brilliant running my country. He's working in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA's best interest, not his own, not Joe Biden's, not the rich people. Obama is trying to help everyone in the country, not just the rich and upper middle class. You are a selfish snob that can go die in a hole if you haven't any compassion or love for people less fortunate than you. Who really gives a damn what religion he is, or his family is? As long as he is a morally good person, why does his religion matter? It does not. Just because someone isn't Christian does not make them a bad person. It is very rude and biased to see it that way.

Please, be more mature. Use your brains, your ears, your eyes, and your hearts. See not what you want to see, but what is really there. This is very misinformative and misleading. I'm a 15 year old Iowan and I know more about this subject than you do.
-MARGARET JO.

http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/2 ... k-out.html

Poor Gary:

GreatGrey · **Posted:** Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:55 pm

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You can't go back in time; your insides would flip outside your body.

A good time traveler full body stocking will prevent that.

I use the Dr.Who Model 2762, really more comfortable around the groin than the HG Wells Eloi Unisex model most time travelers use.

mimi · **Posted:** Fri Jan 01, 2010 10:00 pm

GreatGrey wrote:

Quote:

You can't go back in time; your insides would flip outside your body.

A good time traveler full body stocking will prevent that.

I use the Dr.Who Model 2762, really more comfortable around the groin than the HG Wells Eloi Unisex model most time travelers use.

Hey, GG. This might just be the thing I've been looking for. I've been trying to find a product to sell to the birthers. hmmmmm.

So, you like the Dr. Who 2762?

mimi · **Posted:** Fri Jan 01, 2010 10:07 pm

Not a birther article, but Ted Nugent doesn't warrant another topic. Or anything.

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TED NUGENT - NUGENT: 'OBAMA SHOULD BE JAILED'

Rocker TED NUGENT isn't a fan of U.S. leader BARACK OBAMA - he thinks the president should be jailed.
The Cat Scratch Fever hitmaker, a fervent Republican, insists America should be ashamed about voting in the Democrat, who took office in January (09).
He tells Royal Flush magazine, "I think that Barack Hussein Obama should be put in jail. It is clear that Barack Hussein Obama is a communist.
"(Former Chinese leader) Mao Tse Tung lives and his name is Barack Hussein Obama. This country should be ashamed. I wanna throw up."

http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/st ... ed_1126877

That article was linked at topix. 1474 comments and counting. 1474!

http://www.topix.com/forum/who/snafu/TUA0AJ1GTDHVPEVGM

kate520 · **Posted:** Fri Jan 01, 2010 10:40 pm

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This country should be ashamed. I wanna throw up.

Funny, that's how I feel about Nugent, too.

realist · **Joined:** Fri Jan 23, 2009 1:33 pm **Posts:** 23538

10 to 1 there's a note from Orly on her blog before the weekend is over asking her minions to get in touch with Ted. Perhaps he can join her nonexistent lawsuit as a plaintiff...or even better fund her appeals and/or her next birther lawsuit, or both! $\:D/$

Not sure if Uncle Ted is a birther (though he's probably whatever works with the crowds) but he's certainly a teabagger.

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With Ted Nugent providing the sound track Glenn Beck explains what the Tea Parties are all about, who gets it, who doesn’t and why.

Litlebritdifrnt2 · **Posted:** Fri Jan 01, 2010 10:53 pm

Why do they all go with the brainwashed thingy? When it is clear that it is THEM that have been brainwashed, you know hanging on to your version of events despite all of the facts to the contrary.

chinacreekpj · **Joined:** Tue Jun 23, 2009 4:09 pm **Posts:** 1334

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TED NUGENT - NUGENT: 'OBAMA SHOULD BE JAILED'

"I think that Barack Hussein Obama should be put in jail. It is clear that Barack Hussein Obama is a communist.
"(Former Chinese leader) Mao Tse Tung lives and his name is Barack Hussein Obama. This country should be ashamed. I wanna throw up."

Is being a Communist illegal in America?

...and when will these assholes realize that the Democratic party of America is not left wing? It might be "lefter" than the Repubs, but it ain't left. Sheesh, in Canada we even have a Conservative dictator that dissolves and prorogues Parliament to avoid criticism, and even HE is further to the LEFT than Obama.

Samuron · **Joined:** Sun Oct 04, 2009 12:28 pm **Posts:** 179

Nugent has a history of spewing bile:

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Decked out in full-on camouflage hunting gear, Nugent wielded two machine guns while raging, “Obama, he’s a piece of shit. I told him to suck on my machine gun. Hey Hillary,” he continued. “You might want to ride one of these into the sunset, you worthless bitch.”

Samuron · **Joined:** Sun Oct 04, 2009 12:28 pm **Posts:** 179

From the Rutland Herald:

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(Nugent claims) that 30 days before his Draft Board Physical, he stopped all forms of personal hygiene. The last 10 days he ingested nothing but junk food and Pepsi, and a week before his physical, he stopped using the bathroom altogether, virtually living inside his pants caked with excrement and urine. That spectacle won Nugent a deferment.

Makes ya proud to be an American, don't it?

cbreitel · **Posted:** Sat Jan 02, 2010 3:12 am

mimi wrote:

This is from Gary Wilmott's "Give Us Liberty" blog.

His post is titled "AMERICANS SPEAK OUT!... " and is a bunch of the regular birther quotes you'd expect from Gary's blog. And then there's this. (The All Caps belong to Gary, of course):

Quote:

AND THEN WE HAVE THESE COMMENTS FROM A 15 YEAR-OLD NO LESS...THIS IS WHAT WE ARE DEALING WITH...TALK ABOUT DELUSIONAL AND BRAINWASHED...OH MY! SEE FOR YOURSELF...CLUELESS...

Let's not be biased, shall we? Instead of a website bashing people, why don't the reveal things conservatives and Republicans have done? Is this a website to sway people's opinions? It is stated as a site that is used to inform, not persuade. Don't sit around and point the blame at everyone else when it was people like you that got us into this mess. AKA, Conservatives. The time for the past is gone, the world is moving forward and so is America.

As to Obama: He is a legal United States Citizen, was born in the U.S.A., lived in the U.S.A., etc. If you sit there and think he somehow got past the government (at the time before he was elected was ruled by a REPUBLICAN), you are an idiot. End of story. How could you fake a Hawaiian newspaper article from 1967 saying he was born? You can't go back in time; your insides would flip outside your body. That's a ridiculous claim, stop fishing for stupid and untrue things like that. Also, do you not think that the government would do a background check on him? Duh. Finally, hell, if he's smart enough to outsmart the government, that's not your average Joe. I'd like to have someone that brilliant running my country. He's working in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA's best interest, not his own, not Joe Biden's, not the rich people. Obama is trying to help everyone in the country, not just the rich and upper middle class. You are a selfish snob that can go die in a hole if you haven't any compassion or love for people less fortunate than you. Who really gives a damn what religion he is, or his family is? As long as he is a morally good person, why does his religion matter? It does not. Just because someone isn't Christian does not make them a bad person. It is very rude and biased to see it that way.

Please, be more mature. Use your brains, your ears, your eyes, and your hearts. See not what you want to see, but what is really there. This is very misinformative and misleading. I'm a 15 year old Iowan and I know more about this subject than you do.
-MARGARET JO.

http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/2 ... k-out.html

Poor Gary:

A 15-year old Iowan, eh?

I attended the Insight Bowl yesterday in Tempe, Arizona, between Iowa State and Minnesota. I yelled my lungs out cheering for the Iowa team along with thousands of crazy Iowans, most of whom were wearing t-shirts in our 55-degree weather. What nuts. I have a special fondness for the state and always will, thanks to the imprint on history it made by giving Barack Obama his first primary victory in 2007.

Iowa State 14, Minnesota 13. Go Cyclones!!!

mimi · **Posted:** Sat Jan 02, 2010 3:14 am

Samuron wrote:

From the Rutland Herald:

Quote:

(Nugent claims) that 30 days before his Draft Board Physical, he stopped all forms of personal hygiene. The last 10 days he ingested nothing but junk food and Pepsi, and a week before his physical, he stopped using the bathroom altogether, virtually living inside his pants caked with excrement and urine. That spectacle won Nugent a deferment.

Makes ya proud to be an American, don't it?

thanks for this one. I'm gonna send it to those on twitter when they start with the "Ted Nugent, Patriot" stuff.

I saw this article too. He doesn't much care for a lot of people. And, he doesn't like supporting his child either. He's a real jerk.

http://www.anairhoads.org/animal/tednugent.shtml

bogus info · **Joined:** Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:19 pm **Posts:** 5484

I wonder if the "teabaggers" are aware of this in the Bible?

http://christianity.about.com/od/faqhel ... ingtax.htm

http://www.gotquestions.org/taxes-Bible.html

Quote:

As much as we hate taxes, as much as the tax system is corrupt and unfair, as much as there are far better things our money could go towards - the Bible commands, yes commands us to pay our taxes. Romans 13:1-7 makes it clear that we are to submit ourselves to the government. The only instance in which we are allowed to disobey the government is when it tells us to do something the Bible forbids. The Bible does not forbid paying taxes. In fact, the Bible encourages us to pay taxes. Therefore, we must submit to God and His Word - and pay our taxes.

The most frequent objection to paying taxes is that the money is being misused by the government or even used for evil purposes by the government. That, however, is not our concern. When Jesus said, "Give to Caesar..." the Roman government was by no means a righteous government. When Paul instructed us to pay taxes, Nero, the most evil Roman emperor in history, was the head of the government. We are to pay our taxes even when the government is not God-honoring.

emphasis mine

TollandRCR · **Posted:** Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:16 pm

bogus info wrote:

I wonder if the "teabaggers" are aware of this in the Bible?
Romans 13:1-7

Oddly, the Conservative Bible Project has not yet gotten around to translating Romans 13.

mimi · **Posted:** Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:27 am

I saw this guy was on a hunger strike a couple weeks ago. He says he's still at it. Idunno. I don't know if that's physically possible. He's a nut.

http://notthistime.net/

He lists his demands to eat. hee.

He says there's another guy also on hunger strike.

He says he's sure the White House is aware of him. Really? Were any of you? So, I clicked on his twitter feed. He has 43 followers. I think the lack of food is making him delusional.

Jez · **Posted:** Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:34 am

mimi wrote:

I saw this guy was on a hunger strike a couple weeks ago. He says he's still at it. Idunno. I don't know if that's physically possible. He's a nut.

http://notthistime.net/

He lists his demands to eat. hee.

He says there's another guy also on hunger strike.

He says he's sure the White House is aware of him. Really? Were any of you? So, I clicked on his twitter feed. He has 43 followers. I think the lack of food is making him delusional.

As long as he is at least getting water, he can hold out for a couple more weeks. I think the formula is 3 days without water, 4-6 weeks without food.

Sterngard Friegen · **Posted:** Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:35 am

Jez wrote:

mimi wrote:

I saw this guy was on a hunger strike a couple weeks ago. He says he's still at it. Idunno. I don't know if that's physically possible. He's a nut.

http://notthistime.net/

He lists his demands to eat. hee.

He says there's another guy also on hunger strike.

He says he's sure the White House is aware of him. Really? Were any of you? So, I clicked on his twitter feed. He has 43 followers. I think the lack of food is making him delusional.

As long as he is at least getting water, he can hold out for a couple more weeks. I think the formula is 3 days without water, 4-6 weeks without food.

I think CEL3 could make it 6 or 7 weeks without food.

PatGund · **Posted:** Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:47 am

Sterngard Friegen wrote:

I think CEL3 could make it 6 or 7 weeks without food.

Longer if Peyton Freeman is around for CEL3 to test the Donner Party cookbook on him.

TexasFilly · **Joined:** Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:52 pm **Posts:** 10650

PatGund wrote:

Sterngard Friegen wrote:

I think CEL3 could make it 6 or 7 weeks without food.

Longer if Peyton Freeman is around for CEL3 to test the Donner Party cookbook on him.

Kidney Pie?

mimi · **Posted:** Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:22 am

Jez wrote:

As long as he is at least getting water, he can hold out for a couple more weeks. I think the formula is 3 days without water, 4-6 weeks without food.

Well then, the Obama Administration better follow the Continental Congress 09 Articles of Freedom. He says he gotta receive word from the big ConCon that they received "respectable responses" to their pile of poo from Congress (the real one) and from the White House. Or... he "has a mere 3 minutes in a nationally televised address."

And also "IF MORE THAN 2 DAYS GOES BY WITHOUT MY UPDATES, YOU CAN BE SURE I AM BEING DEALT WITH BY THE VERY PEOPLE I'M SPEAKING OF."

hee!

me: What a wanker.

Sterngard Friegen · **Posted:** Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:29 am

PatGund wrote:

Sterngard Friegen wrote:

I think CEL3 could make it 6 or 7 weeks without food.

Longer if Peyton Freeman is around for CEL3 to test the Donner Party cookbook on him.

Remember, CEL3 is a history buff. So if he's gonna go on a starvation diet he'll drive up the Donner Pass on I-80 (just before Truckee). I can see Taitz hearing about all the excitement and driving the Tesla up there. And then I can see her and PeeWee fighting over the remains, with Taitz emerging victorious after shouting, a few times

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LET ME FINISH! LET ME FINISH!

twinx · **Posted:** Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:00 pm

Random Birther stuff. You know how these people love to spend their time questioning public servants of all kinds....

This poster has (for a couple of weeks now) been making suggestions/requests for people to contact School Boards and ask what children are being taught about what the constitutional requirements are to be eligible for the Presidency.

This is normally coupled with something on the lines of 'I know what I was taught and it was 2 citizen parents'.

Today, she has ramped it up another notch.

Quote:

Margie // January 26, 2010 at 3:33 pm

P.S. if you call the school system, ask if they know who Barry Soetoro is? as well.

http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2010/ ... /#comments

I have no idea whether a lot of people on that site are doing what she suggests. I'm just saying, it's going on.

Jez · **Posted:** Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:38 am

Would this be our old friend "Margie" from OC?

mimi · **Posted:** Wed Jan 27, 2010 4:11 am

I've seen that too, twinx. But, nobody can show that. Nobody has been able to prove that.

There are lots of old textbooks on the google book search. Lots have eligibility requirements of the President. Some of those say "native". None say two parents.

Margie should have to prove it.

Here's one. 1904.

http://books.google.com/books?id=fNnZAA ... q=&f=false

Can she show ONE that says "born to two citizen parents? Cuz... I can giver her lots more. If she can't find one, she can just STFU.

bogus info · **Joined:** Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:19 pm **Posts:** 5484

mimi wrote:

I've seen that too, twinx. But, nobody can show that. Nobody has been able to prove that.

There are lots of old textbooks on the google book search. Lots have eligibility requirements of the President. Some of those say "native". None say two parents.

Margie should have to prove it.

Here's one. 1904.

http://books.google.com/books?id=fNnZAA ... q=&f=false

Can she show ONE that says "born to two citizen parents? Cuz... I can giver her lots more. If she can't find one, she can just STFU.

Nope, don't think she can and I don't think she can find one that mentions de Vattel.

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I can giver her lots more.

Post them here too please.

Falsehoods unchallenged only fester and grow.

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