Interesting wording by the Kreep.



Notice that while Kreep states that Biden assumed office as Vice President, he only refers to Obama as a "former U.S. Senator" and a "Presidential Candidate" rather than as having assumed the office of President of the United States.

Classy with a K(KK)...... Also pretty petty.



Ah, he finally coughed fact that out.

Message today from George Soros

Scorecard updated to add Craig's new case.

Another complete waste of US taxpayer money since some poor US Attorney will have to write a motion to dismiss this pile of crap.

To stay on the Earth, and not fly off and die in the vacuum of space, EVERY SINGLE SECOND I have to manage to stay attached to the Earth by gravity. If gravity fails for even ONE SECOND I'm doomed!

I'm sweating bullets I say.

I'm not sure whether someone has noted this elsewhere on The Fogbow: Hollister v. Soetoro, No. 10-678, has been distributed for the Supremes' 14 January 2011 conference.

No. 10-678
Title: Gregory S. Hollister, Petitioner
v.
Barry Soetoro, et al.

Docketed: November 23, 2010
Lower Ct: United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit
Case Nos.: (09-5080)
Decision Date: March 22, 2010
Rehearing Denied: August 23, 2010

~~~Date~~~ ~~~~~~~Proceedings and Orders~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Nov 22 2010 Petition for a writ of certiorari filed. (Response due December 23, 2010)
Nov 22 2010 Appendix of Gregory S. Hollister filed. (Volumes I, II, III)
Dec 22 2010 Waiver of right of respondents Barry Soetoro, et al. to respond filed.
Dec 29 2010 DISTRIBUTED for Conference of January 14, 2011.

I realize this was old news, but ... is someone eligible to be a major party candidate, if they aren't eligible for the position itself? And if Obama wasn't eligible enough to be named as 'President' as a respondent, how could he have been eligible enough to be named as Presidential Candidate? These people are pretty indiscriminate and illogical. At the very most he was a putative Presidential Candidate.

Sure, we have a whole thread about that case, as one might expect.

When that GretaWire forum was still alive and filled with birthers, I gave them a trivia quiz:

• What's the name of the woman who connects the Hollister case to the Lakin case?
  
  
• The real reason Judge Robertson dismissed Hollister was not that the president's eligibility had been "blogged and twittered". The real reason he gave was that ______________ was not a proper cause of action for removing a usurperin' mofo from the White House.

I kept bumping up my quiz for a whole day, but nobody there knew enough to even take a guess until the Birther Report dude, ObamaReleaseYourRecords, showed up about 8:30 that night and answered both.

After that I started calling the rest of them the Dumbass Hicks of Birferstan.

Ask those questions like the Ben Stein character in Ferris Bueller! "Inter-what, class." Not to mention, how often do you see the phrase "tee up" in a judge's decision?

Robertson was a dream come true for Mr. Anal Language Weenie. I think my favorite was when he said Phil had "shoehorned" his facts into an interpleader. I know the pedants always say "Don't verb your nouns," but he gave a great example why that rule is just silly nonsense.

Respectfully request updates to the scorecard (Taitz, Hollister SCOTUS denials; Craig dismissal), as well as to the thread title (score). Also, should the Pupura case be added?

Thanks!

I added the Pupura case to the Birther Calendar. The plaintiffs are Birthers and argued birther points in count 6.

Hilariously, I might add. These buffoons should really hire Orly Taitz. She can feenish the case for them!

As the situation develops, Cao's case might also merit inclusion.

I'm on (unexpected) business travel so do not have docs with me to update, but will try to get to this next week. Thanx!

Thanks, Tes!

Updated.
And, as Purpura has an actual "count" on the birther issue, I think it should be included, even though that's not the sole focus of the case. SO -- I did

Hi folks.... seems like I seem to picking the heads of fellow politijabbers as opposed to controbuting... it's just that everything about the birther nuts is here

...anyway.... I'd like to know from somebody here.... out of the 73 odd birther lawsuits, how many times did Obama have a lawyer presented.... and is there a legit link I could look into this at?

I'd just like to explain to another birther buddy here why 73 birther lawsuits do not add to a million dollars in cost for the president.

Click on the "Scorecard" at the bottom of the page. The final column shows whether Obama personally had any attorney involved. The answer is 3 out of 73. In those cases the involvement was usually limited to filing a motion or an opposition for an appeal. In all cases filed after Obama was inaugurated the government is providing whatever defense is needed. In some cases Obama was not named as a defendant (such as FOIA cases).

On one of my shows we discussed this and Georgetown JD estimated that the cost to do the legal work in the 3 cases where Obama's campaign attorneys filed anything was under $20,000. (This may not be the exact figure but it was close).

The source of the $2,000,000 claim is that source of sources for Birther rumors none other than World Net Daily. They obtained FEC reports for the total spending by the Obama campaign with the law firm of Perkins Coie. The figure was actually less than $2 million. There was no breakdown as to what work is done since the law doesn't require that detail. However, it is certain that work the 3 cases represented a small part of the services provided. In fact, I believe work in at least one of the cases was done pro bono by one of the Perkins Coie attorneys.

I hope the Home Page project is going to address this as it is one of the most persistent of all the Birther lies.

I would add:

When a government attorney (Assistant U.S. Attorney or deputy Attorney General of a state) works on one of these cases, their pay is not increased nor decreased. They, and the judges and other court personnel, get the same salary, no matter which case they work on. So you can't really say "Obama is spending a lot of government money" on defending the cases, either.

If they didn't have birther cases to work on, they'd still earn the same exact amount of money. They'd just be able to spend their time working on more important cases.

Also: For the same FEC reporting period, McCain has similar legal expenses. The most reasonable conclusion is that paying lawyers to help run (and wind down) a campaign is a normal cost when running for office.

I sometimes do this myself. Really, don't worry in the least. When you ask a question that gets a relevant answer, everyone who reads that answer also gets the benefit. Put it this way. Even when a birfer moron posts utter gibberish and gets a response, containing case law, persuasive authority from treatises and law reviews, and other sources of knowledge, everyone here benefits. Your posts have been entirely relevant, sensible, and have generated useful responses. Anyone who is here and actively participates in answering questions like this is doing so voluntarily and wants to help for their own reasons. None of us is a walking encyclopedia who knows everything and can therefore answer any question instantly, but most of us have some area of personal specialty in our personal geekdom. When an issue within our geek domain comes up, we're thrilled that someone cared enough to ask.

In short, feel free to pick heads. I personally have greatly enjoyed your questions and the responses to those questions. That's why we're here and why you're here. I'd make a wild guess you have your own area of specialty that could come in handy at some point.

UPDATE: BIRTHER CASE STANDINGS: 0-*83* AS OF SEPTEMBER 29, 2011
(WITH *I THINK* 3 CASES PENDING) Ruemmler, Fuddy, Connerat

UPDATED CASE LIST HERE

Justice v Fuddy seems to be missing. I know we've just got the appeal details right now, but I'll try to start copying the Circuit Court file the next time I'm down there to get something done on the Taitz v Fuddy stuff.

I don't think that's a birther case.