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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:09 am 
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It certainly isn't her Howler Monkeys. nor do I believe it's all Yossi's hard-earned money, either. Flying to Europe and Israel is expensive, and, leaves a trail for "the regime" to monitor her. True, she propagandizes against the US on Russian TV, and on English-language Israeli TV, for which she is compensated.

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Taitz lives in a $4.5M house. I don't think it's hard to connect the dots starting with that data point.

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Taitz lives in a $4.5M house. I don't think it's hard to connect the dots starting with that data point.

True, but there has to be more to her story. in fact, there is a lot more. She's hiding something. like her connection to the Jewsh Task Froce, which is a Rightwing Jewish organization

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Taitz lives in a $4.5M house. I don't think it's hard to connect the dots starting with that data point.


I saw what you did there ... :lol:

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While I admit that Taitz spends tens of thousands of dollars on her hobby, she can afford it. I respectfully disagree that someone is funding her. It's not quite like funding Walter Fitzpatrick, but that's about all you can say about it. She's an incompetent ineffective narcissist and as such makes a poor puppet.

I just don't see anything that suggests evidence of this.

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The Jewish Task Force is a remnant of Meir Kahane's radical terrorist organization. This "excerpt" from Dreams from My Father is, I believe, altered or taken out of context. JTF does sound a lot like Orly.



The hatred here is palpable.

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While I admit that Taitz spends tens of thousands of dollars on her hobby, she can afford it. I respectfully disagree that someone is funding her. It's not quite like funding Walter Fitzpatrick, but that's about all you can say about it. She's an incompetent ineffective narcissist and as such makes a poor puppet.

I just don't see anything that suggests evidence of this.

Agreed. We've discussed this before. Throwing money at Taitz to accomplish a political agenda is like throwing money down the sewer. There are so many more people out there who could do what Taitz is trying to do and these people could do it in a much more competent manner.

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Daily Kos Sept. 7, 2009 'Birther Queen' Taitz Driven By Rabid Islamophobia to Oust Obama
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The 'Skeeter Bites Report has subsequently learned that Taitz has support from the Jewish Task Force, a radical extremist group whose members, according to its Web site, follow the teachings of the late Rabbi Meir Kahane, founder of the militant Jewish Defense League (JDL), who later emigrated to Israel and founded the far-right extremist Kach Party.

The JTF, like Taitz, adamantly insists that President Obama is a Muslim -- despite overwhelming evidence that he is, in fact, a Christian -- and considers him a traitor to the U.S. and a direct threat to Israel. "We are opposed to Israel surrendering land for 'peace,'" the JTF declared on its Web site. "We are also opposed to Islamic terrorism, which we believe is an integral part of Islam."

The JTF regards critics of Israel in both the U.S. and Israel itself as "domestic fifth columnists who attempt to undermine America’s and Israel’s will to defend themselves and to properly fight their wars [against Islamic terrorism]," and included Obama as a "fifth columnist."

The group formed another organization, Jews Against Obama, "to expose him as being just that" and it strongly supports Taitz's efforts to oust the president from office. It has posted a highly inflammatory video online that claims Obama "wants to destroy Israel."

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I concur with the doubters (and, of course, myself). Taitz has essentially failed in everything she has done as a lawyer. If somebody was funding her -- which I seriously doubt -- the results of her early efforts would make it clear that money was going down a rat hole.

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Crazy people spend their families into bankruptcy all the time through drug addition, compulsive shopping, falling for Nigerian fast money scams, etc. Crazy person Orly Taitz is wasting her family's money on pursuing her delusions in the court system. I have never seen any evidence of anything more complicated than this.


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My view is that her bat shit insanity is effectively funded via an allowance from her husband for "your hobby"...meaning "GTFOOO House"

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Now....Mario's finances....there's a whole other pile of stuff........ :-k

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I'll readily admit that Taitz has "allies," particularly among the Israeli far right. That Russian nationalists or fringe Israeli elements have a confluence of interests with her bashing the United States and President Obama does not mean that money changes hands.

The thing is, even if someone was fanatical and delusional enough to throw a great deal of money down the Taitz rat hole, what's the reason to continue after the election? You can make the argument that the President could be smeared or perhaps embarrassed into releasing documents, but that's kind of moot right now. I doubt Obama will be impeached (let alone convicted), and he cannot run for re-election.

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The Jewish Task Force is very active now, although it may be quite ineffective and its activity mostly posting reprints from israeli National News. Long ago, I pointed to a symmetry between Israeli National News and Orly Taitz. Whether that is formal support from the JTF, I don't know. She certainly thinks like the Kahane followers.

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There's a huge difference between agreeing with Orly Taitz and funding her activities. I have seen no evidence that she is funded by anyone other than her husband.

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I'd like to still think there's some shadowy, Mossad-like organizations behind her. It would be the perfect cover! Pretend to be a bumbling, ineffectual, show cow while secretly being totally efficient and carrying out the 10 year master plan of US destruction.

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raicha wrote:
There's a huge difference between agreeing with Orly Taitz and funding her activities. I have seen no evidence that she is funded by anyone other than her husband.

We don't really have any evidence as to whether Yosi is or is not funding her hobby. We also know little about his own opinions on the matter.

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Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Taitz lives in a $4.5M house. I don't think it's hard to connect the dots starting with that data point.


Yabbut isn't a 4.5 million house in CA like a $250,000 house anywhere else? :mrgreen:


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I concur with the doubters (and, of course, myself). Taitz has essentially failed in everything she has done as a lawyer. If somebody was funding her -- which I seriously doubt -- the results of her early efforts would make it clear that money was going down a rat hole.


Not so... if it's the Democrats. :-

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There's a huge difference between agreeing with Orly Taitz and funding her activities. I have seen no evidence that she is funded by anyone other than her husband.

She gets this in exchange for feeding the kids.

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I concur with the doubters (and, of course, myself). Taitz has essentially failed in everything she has done as a lawyer. If somebody was funding her -- which I seriously doubt -- the results of her early efforts would make it clear that money was going down a rat hole.

Someone (or group) might have been funding Taitz prior to the election if their objective was to just continually smear the President. I can't imagine anyone funding Taitz and expecting anything more than that. Taitz's incompetence, along with the resulting failures, would deter any sane person from believing anything else could come from her efforts.

I believe Orly receives no outside financial assistance other than what little she solicits through her website. She is on a personal jihad against the President and willing to spend the family money to satisfy her own ego.

For Taitz it's all about me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me me.

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Eventually the courts might catch up with her if she defaults on her costs and sanctions, I suppose.

I wonder about this myself...where does she get her funding?

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What, exactly, does she need massive funding for anyway? A few hundred a month for filing fees? Many people spend that much on hobby supplies. Airfare? 2 of our own flew off to this latest hearing, and I can imagine Orly has a few FF miles saved up. It's not like she's flying off somewhere weekly either.

In the beginning, when her costs were higher she had more FM support but she's probaby at the point now with so few cases that handling them is no more expensive than many other hobbies are. She probably pays for a flight about what she'd pay for a couple of dresses and a good pair of shoes. I don't see any need for outside funding for her from anyone.


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everalm wrote:
My view is that her bat shit insanity is effectively funded via an allowance from her husband for "your hobby"...meaning "GTFOOO House"


I agree that Yosi "supports" her activities, at least in the same way as some of the radical Jewish organizations. He's (wisely) kept an extremely low profile in Birferstan, but my gut feeling has always been that he's strong supporter of the Jewish political state, including Israel, and tacitly agrees with activities that weaken things he feels are a danger to this state.

But I'm not sure that extends to direct financial support. My guess has been that he is the sole financial support of the family and household, with O'rly doing whatever she wants as a sideline. Appealing Dentistry seems to be run more like a self-funding hobby than a real business, and I've always figured that most of O'rly's birfing expenses ultimately filter their way over to Appealing Dentistry's income statement.

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My view is that her bat shit insanity is effectively funded via an allowance from her husband for "your hobby"...meaning "GTFOOO House"


I agree that Yosi "supports" her activities, at least in the same way as some of the radical Jewish organizations. He's (wisely) kept an extremely low profile in Birferstan, but my gut feeling has always been that he's strong supporter of the Jewish political state, including Israel, and tacitly agrees with activities that weaken things he feels are a danger to this state.


Nothing Orly does supports the state of Israel, whether or not RWNJs here or in Israel believe otherwise. In fact, to the extent her activities are seen as connected to Israel, they harm Israel.

I know that in the US, "supporting Israel" means supporting the most extremist, moronic, racist, genocidal maniacs who pose as representatives of the entire country, but that is not reality. I can't think of a single real Israeli who supports Orly, outside of some probably fraudulent Russian immigrant RWNJs.

As for the real Israel, it awarded Obama its highest civilian honor, the Medal of Distinction.

So as I say fuck you to Orly, so does the real Israel.

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