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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:30 pm 
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Whoa, this was real interesting information about the blogger with the moniker, ericathunderpaws. I will certainly follow up on your claims.

Let me explain how I happened to collaborate with ericathunderpaws on these roadmaps of election fraud in Texas in the first place.

ericathunderpaws first commented on my blog not that long ago. She said she had only recently found my site, and was interested in the citizen complaints of election fraud. Much of my recent work has focused on the state of Texas; she is from Texas. So, she filed a complaint. Now, she wanted to ensure more citizens would file this complaint, too. (Since October, when the first iteration of the TX complaint was posted, more than 100 Texans have filed this with AG Abbott.)

Several of the people who comment on my blog or who email me without commenting; propose various projects they suggest could simplify some of the lengthy narratives on my blog. ericathunderpaws was one of these people. Actually, hers was one of several suggestions that I construct a 'visual' to explain the citizen complaints of election fraud to state A'sG in applicable states. But she actually came to me with a basic picture she said, she intended to post. Now, in order to ensure this product was consistent with both the substance and the quality of work produced on the blog, I entered into a virtual collaboration with her, to create the final visual product, which is posted on the blog. What contribution each of us made to the final product is known to each of us - ericathunderpaws and me - and can be verified by examining our exchange of emails leading up to the final product. Suffice to say, she sent me an image ostensibly describing my work, which image she said she intended to post momentarily; and I asked her to wait, proposing, instead, we could fine tune her initial efforts to better represent the work on the blog.

As to why I first visited Politijab today, well, I was looking for an appropriate place to post my homage (with a twist) to Professor Howard Zinn, an article I posted on my blog a couple of weeks ago. In that article, I describe my relationship with Howard when I was an employee/labor organizer/student at BU, where I first met the man almost 30 (thirty) years ago. He introduced me as his "star" pupil. Anyway, in that article, I mentioned Politijab by name (as well as Democratic Underground and Daily Kos). I figured I would hear from someone representing those sites... nothing. So, I intended to post the article here but could not figure out where was an appropriate spot.

In the meantime, I decided to post the reference to the map of election fraud. Because in order to take up the challenge in my homage to Howard Zinn - thus, the 'twist' - you would first have to understand the fraud we allege.
http://jbjd.wordpress.com/2010/02/22/guess-whom-howard-zinn-called-his-star-pupil-jbjd/


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:52 pm 
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Every single word in the article was a lie. I don't mind people writing historical fiction, but to claim to have been "reprinted with permission", using a real man's name, claiming a non-existent book and non-existent publisher reduces it to outright LIES.


Not to compare an outright fraud to real literature, but Jorge Luis Borges often wrote reviews of nonexistent books, sometimes throwing in actual people. One example would be "Pierre Menard, Author of the Quixote." Of course, the Pierre Menard of this story wasn't actually writing a new book, but trying to rewrite the original Don Quixote, without using the original. Borges was comparing and contrasting the two (identical) books, interpreting them in light of the time they were written. He found Menard's more cynical and jaded.

Stanislaw Lem wrote an entire book of reviews of nonexistent books, called A Perfect Vacuum.


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... Jorge Luis Borges often wrote reviews of nonexistent books, sometimes throwing in actual people. One example would be "Pierre Menard, Author of the Quixote." Of course, the Pierre Menard of this story wasn't actually writing a new book, but trying to rewrite the original Don Quixote, without using the original. Borges was comparing and contrasting the two (identical) books, interpreting them in light of the time they were written. He found Menard's more cynical and jaded.


One of my absolute favorite stories, along with several others by Borges.

I particularly recommend his "Deutsches Requiem," in which a Nazi on the eve of his execution for atrocities pens a document for posterity which (as I see it, anyway) argues chillingly that WW II in fact represented a triumph of Nazi ideology.

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you would first have to understand the fraud we allege

You said a mouthful, there.


BTW, I don't think Zinn would approve of what you are doing:


And I, personally, find your cheap attempt to ride a dead man's coattails repulsive.

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Jbjd, you firmly believe that it is your role to indoctrinate students. Your "Out of the Mouths of Babes" post made it very evident that you are completely supportive of student indoctrination as long as such indoctrination agrees with your beliefs.

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As to why I first visited Politijab today, well, I was looking for an appropriate place to post my homage (with a twist) to Professor Howard Zinn, an article I posted on my blog a couple of weeks ago. In that article, I describe my relationship with Howard when I was an employee/labor organizer/student at BU, where I first met the man almost 30 (thirty) years ago. He introduced me as his "star" pupil.

Howard Zinn was a "star" teacher. Although he was fired by Spelman College for "insubordination," some of his students there remember him as a great teacher. "Among his students were novelist Alice Walker, who called him "the best teacher I ever had," and Marian Wright Edelman, future head of the Children's Defense Fund." Howard Zinn - historian who challenged status quo - dies at 87

He went on to Boston University, where he was a thorn in the flesh of autocratic President John Silber.
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On his last day at BU, Dr. Zinn ended class 30 minutes early so he could join a picket line and urged the 500 students attending his lecture to come along. A hundred did.

jbjd may have learned some of her philosophy of teaching from Howard Zinn, who could never have been accused of being an ideologically neutral teacher. Noam Chomsky described him:
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Dr. Zinn's writings "simply changed perspective and understanding for a whole generation. He opened up approaches to history that were novel and highly significant. Both by his actions, and his writings for 50 years, he played a powerful role in helping and in many ways inspiring the Civil rights movement and the anti-war movement."

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:25 am 
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jbjd may have learned some of her philosophy of teaching from Howard Zinn, who could never have been accused of being an ideologically neutral teacher. Noam Chomsky described him:
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Dr. Zinn's writings "simply changed perspective and understanding for a whole generation. He opened up approaches to history that were novel and highly significant. Both by his actions, and his writings for 50 years, he played a powerful role in helping and in many ways inspiring the Civil rights movement and the anti-war movement."


There's considerable difference in college professors teaching young adults, who have often specifically chosen that school and that teacher; and teaching captive children who are usually in the teaching environment not of their own choice. The first is expected, the second is reprehensible.


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muldrake wrote:
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jbjd may have learned some of her philosophy of teaching from Howard Zinn, who could never have been accused of being an ideologically neutral teacher. Noam Chomsky described him:
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Dr. Zinn's writings "simply changed perspective and understanding for a whole generation. He opened up approaches to history that were novel and highly significant. Both by his actions, and his writings for 50 years, he played a powerful role in helping and in many ways inspiring the Civil rights movement and the anti-war movement."


There's considerable difference in college professors teaching young adults, who have often specifically chosen that school and that teacher; and teaching captive children who are usually in the teaching environment not of their own choice. The first is expected, the second is reprehensible.

Yes. My point was that jbjd may have learned from Howard Zinn. However, she did not learn all that she could have learned from Zinn or BU more generally.

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There's considerable difference in college professors teaching young adults, who have often specifically chosen that school and that teacher; and teaching captive children who are usually in the teaching environment not of their own choice. The first is expected, the second is reprehensible.


As a child, I wished I was elsewhere every time I looked out a classroom window. I certainly felt a captive. But my teachers did nothing reprehensible. I remember as a young child when one teacher placed me in speech therapy, the last place I would want to be. But were it not for that one placement, I would have never enjoyed any of my later academic success.

As a former teacher, I discovered many students who found events outside the classroom to be far more inviting than anything they could learn from me. Still, every student who passed my door profited from the experience. I taught in tough and dangerous neighborhoods. Sometime, I meet some of my former students on public transportation or in stores, and I am gratefully greeted by some who years ago seemed the most resistant to learning.


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My K-12 teachers, in a small city in East Texas, were propagandists in their own way, probably without consciously recognizing it. This was the era preceding Brown v. Board of Education and immediately following it. I don't recall their being viciously anti-Black, but they never taught a lesson about racism and prejudice. This was a lily-white school in a middle-class part of the city, not the suburbs. My high school was (and still is) Robert E. Lee High School.

They were also propagandists for Christianity, perhaps again without realizing what they were doing. Just as with segregation of the public schools, they took it for granted that everyone was or should be a Christian. There was a large and strong Catholic parochial school in town, so they must have assumed everyone in my school was a Protestant Christian. There were Jews in the school, although some parents sent their children away to schools in other cities, especially for high school. The football games -- the central public event in the town, except for the October Rose Festival -- always began with a prayer "in Jesus' name, Amen."

They were also fiercely anti-Communist, believing that a large Communist cell was located in the town because of its proximity to the East Texas Oil Fields, which would have to be destroyed at the time of the invasion.

(A nice thing is that my elementary school, in what had become a predominantly African American area of town, was substantially endowed by a classmate. It is now classified as a Texas "Great School," although that designation is not extraordinary in Texas. Unlike many schools, it does not consider music and the arts to be expendable luxuries; in fact, it added a building in 1998 to accommodate these classes, as well as state-of-the-art computer classrooms.)

What jbjd is doing is perhaps at least an order of magnitude more oppressive of students' minds than was the propaganda in my K-12 schools. However, I have suspected that subtle propaganda is ultimately more effective than is the blatant propaganda of jbjd -- which may explain why I have worked to overcome what I was taught.

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Clowns to the LEFT of me; jokers to the RIGHT. COUNTRY before CLUB.

In the spring of 2006, Boyd Richie, Chair of the Texas Democratic Party ("TDP"), successfully sued the Republican Party of Texas ("RPT") to prevent them from declaring that Tom DeLay, the winner of the Congressional primary in March, was now ineligible for that office given his public announcement not to seek re-election and evidence he had established a new residence in VA. And under Texas law, only the names of eligible candidates may appear on the ballot. TDP v. RPT http://openjurist.org/459/f3d/582/texas-democratic-party-v-j-benkiser

The court ruled, determining eligibility for office in the spring was premature, where the Constitution only requires, the candidate must live in the state at the time of the election.

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Good luck on this line of crap getting anywhere. When do you plan to file?

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That's pretty inconclusive, if you ask me. Are you and the bugman buddies?


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I haz a confused, jbjd. Did you actually read Bradford v Vento? :-k

Also, President Obama didn't even win Texas, so it wouldn't have mattered if his name was on the ballot there or not. He still would have won the most states.

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The Honorable Justice Abbott, sitting on the Supreme Court of Texas would order TDP Chair Boyd Richie to declare Presidential candidate Barack Obama is ineligible for the job.


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. =))

Um, not.

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"I may not be able to explain why Barack Obama attracted support for his crusade to the White House"


Because people thought he was a better choice than Hillary Clinton or John McCain??

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"he refused to disclose to these same sovereigns documentary evidence he was Constitutionally eligible for the job"


The word "sovereigns" to refer to US citizens is a "Sovereign Citizens" red flag. And the fact that the birthers refuse to accept that evidence doesn't mean he didn't disclose said evidence.

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"No; to achieve success in the courts, I needed to map a more direct route to ineligibility, as a matter of law"


Not to mention little things like "facts", "truth", "reality", "standing" and "credible evidence"

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Good luck on this line of crap getting anywhere. When do you plan to file?


I am not filing anything; nor am I advising other citizens to do this. Ha, this would be ridiculous because 1) I am not a citizen of Texas; and 2) this law that underlies such a suit only applies to Chairs of political parties (and certain candidates for office). Get it? Rather, I am merely pointing out, if the RPT had wanted to remove Mr. Obama


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Good luck on this line of crap getting anywhere. When do you plan to file?


I am not filing anything; nor am I advising other citizens to do this. Ha, this would be ridiculous because 1) I am not a citizen of Texas; and 2) this law that underlies such a suit only applies to Chairs of political parties (and certain candidates for office). Get it? Rather, I am merely pointing out, if the RPT had wanted to remove Mr. Obama

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I am merely pointing out, if the RPT had wanted to remove Mr. Obama

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I haz a confused, jbjd. Did you actually read Bradford v Vento? :-k

Also, President Obama didn't even win Texas, so it wouldn't have mattered if his name was on the ballot there or not. He still would have won the most states.

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The Honorable Justice Abbott, sitting on the Supreme Court of Texas would order TDP Chair Boyd Richie to declare Presidential candidate Barack Obama is ineligible for the job.


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. =))

Um, not.


Silly goose. Being ruled Constitutionally ineligible to appear on the ballot in Texas might only keep his name off the ballot in the states identified so far with ballot eligibility laws, which are GA, HI, MD, SC, TX, and VA; but what other state would print his name where his ineligibility has been established as a matter of law? (AZ has just passed a ballot eligibility law.)


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The Honorable Justice Abbott, sitting on the Supreme Court of Texas would order TDP Chair Boyd Richie to declare Presidential candidate Barack Obama is ineligible for the job.

That's one possibility.

Another is that Don Henley would release a new album of country/western covers.

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Somebody needs to put the crack pipe down. Now. #-o

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meh.

If anything would come of this whatever you call it that jbjd is so proud of, it would be that President Obama's eligibility will be verified for the 2012 election. That will be done via the COLB that has already been posted online.

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(Did you read the work I linked BEFORE you responded? Did you understand what you read?)


Yes and yes. Can't say the same for you, however. But, whatever gets you through the day.

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The Democrats used applicable Texas laws in 2006 to prevent the Republicans from declaring Tom DeLay ineligible and having the SoS remove his name from the ballot. They outlines the strategy I applied to subsequent circumstances. Boyd Richie really should have responded to the request for records under the Texas Open Records Law, or at least complied with the provision that allows him not to produce as long as he asks for an AG opinion. (Even in some instances where the AG issues an opinion, the disclosure is exempt; courts have overruled this exemption.) But by refusing to provide the requested information - exhibiting the hubris all too common to so many D's, Mr. Richie's Assistant actually told Requestors, 'Our lawyers said we don't have to' - this created the presumption, he had something to hide. (Did you read the work I linked BEFORE you responded? Did you understand what you read?)

I had not noticed that Tom Delay was running for President of the United States. If he were running for an office in Texas, surely he would be required to be a resident of Texas and of his Congressional district at the time of the election. Are you now claiming that, for any person to run for President, that person must be a resident of Texas at the time of the election?

That would be so ridiculous that even the dimmest Birfer should be able to see through it.

I just love the presumption that when a person tells you "No, I don't have to respond to your request," that is proof that the person has something to hide.

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