Lucas leaves a 2200-word comment
at the P&E. I'm reposting it all here because, y'know, Birthers like to delete stuff.
Lucas Smith says:
Monday, September 6, 2010 at 11:11 PM
Good night everyone. I want to thank everyone here for exercising their fundamental right to freedom of speech here on this comments sections of this article.
This will be my last comment on this article.
I’m a man of character. I took the time to hand address each and every envelope to its Congressional recipient. That means something to me and should mean something to other individuals of character. I don’t expect everyone to understand. The Letter to Congress project wasn’t about sending off some cheap note to Congress which would be ignored or even worse, not noticed in the first place.
It’s very possible that members of US Congress don’t receive many hand addressed letters these days. I wanted the letter to stand out some, give some character to it. I wanted to let members of Congress know that this letter had been sent by a man that was willing to take the time to personally address the envelope; not just another “regular” letter that was 100% computer generated, cold, cheap, easy, speedy and void life. I wanted to let the Congress and the rest of the world know this Letter to Congress project meant something to me. I wasn’t going to let a computer spit out 539 (yes, I wrote to the Delegates as well, and two of the House seats are vacant) address labels so that I could go hurry back to watching cable television or catch up on the latest celebrity news. I’m not a weekend Patriot. Again, as I said before, I don’t expect everyone to understand. We can’t all be men of character.
I also wanted there to be no question that I myself sent these letters to Congress. This project was DESIGNED to convince Congress that they should take the letter seriously. My handwriting is on these letters, as well as the Certified Mail receipts, and now the whole world has a record of it. There is no room for me, or Congress, to wiggle out of this. We can all down load copies of the hand addressed envelopes and the hand addressed Certified Mail receipts and confront Congress with having been notified and informed. DON’T tell that doesn’t mean something.
I gather, from reading some of the comments here, that some of the people posting comments here have not even taken the time to read the read the 7 page letter that I sent to Congress. I understand that you may not have time read the letter because a sports game is on television or because you have to get back to watching the celebrity news at the MSM or you have some other form of entertainment that is more pressing and “fun”.
Let me state for the record that Mr Obama’s birth place is fundamental and of central importance here. I don’t care if Mr Obama’s other actions and policies are unconstitutional. EVERY US President, at one time or another (some more than others) have introduced unconstitutional political policies. Where were you when “King” George Bush was literally shredding the US Constitution to pieces for eight years? As matter of fact, I don’t recall too many US Presidents being removed from Office for introducing unconstitutional political policies or even for “stealing” elections.
THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS here is whether or not Mr Obama is eligible to hold Office or not. I don’t care how “deep” the conspiracy goes. There would be no conspiracy in the first place if Mr Obama were eligible to hold Office. Can people get this fact through their heads, please?
DONT tell me that the birth certificate and actual birth place is not imperative and not significant when we are talking about a President being (or not being) eligible as a Natural Born Citizen to hold Office of President of the United States of America.
If the father’s (or mother’s) citizenship is fundamental in determining whether an individual is eligible to be President of the USA than why do we have US President in Office now that has ALWAYS been very proud to overtly admit that his father was born in the Kenya Colony and that his father never indeed never was a US Citizen. EVERYONE KNOWS that. And I’m tired of hearing this egregiously WEAK argument. What about all the babies born nowadays that don’t know who their father is? Are they eligible to hold office? What about artificial insemination? How do we know that the sperm donor was US Citizen?
However, if neither parent ( BOTH OF THEM) were US Citizens then I’d be right there in your corner maintaining the Mr Obama is not a natural born citizen. However, that’s not the case. The mother was a US Citizen and I don’t care how old she was. I’m almost disgusted to hear people making claims that an underage American born girl (born in the US of two citizen parents) was not old enough to pass on US citizenship. Give me a break.
Now, do I think that Obama’s father’s lack of US citizenship lends weight to the argument that a Kenyan born (or anywhere outside of US) individual is not a Natural Born Citizen??? Answer: Yes, it certainly does. I believe wholeheartedly that both factors (birth place and parents citizenship) should be utilized TOGETHER when challenging Mr Obama’s citizenship.
I’ve cited Johnny H. Killian and a SENATE PUBLICATION which Congress themselves published in the 1990s in which Johnny H Killian states within that, “This last requirement (natural-born citizen) raises the question of whether someone born to American parents outside of the United States would be eligible to hold the office”.
Do you hear that? Is that clear enough for you? Here we have a constitutional aficionado who advised all of Congress for more than 40 years.
Mr Killian (passed away in 2008) makes it very clear that EVEN WITH TWO US CITIZEN PARENTS that birth abroad of their child would raise the question of whether the child was a NBC and eligible to hold Office of President. Is anyone here (or anyone in the whole United States of America) attempting to make claims that they know better that Johnny H Killian??? I recommend that you think objectively before you make claims that you do.
Lastly, regarding organ sales. Yes, organ sales are illegal in the USA. But why should they be? Organ sales save lives. AND DO NOT attempt to tell me that organ “donations” save lives. Look up the statistics before you open your mouth or grab your keyboards. People don’t just go around giving away kidneys and livers or other organs everyday. There’s an immensely long waiting list for a kidney and other organs and most people die waiting for their number to be called.
And why should a person “donate” an organ? Are you telling me that I can sell my car but I can’t sell a piece of my own body? Are you telling me that I can sell my toilet, television and even my pet dog but not my kidney? Everyone else involved in an organ “donation” makes a profit. The doctor gets paid for it. The hospital gets paid for it. And certainly the organ recipient comes out a head with a life saving organ. So, why then, should the donor not be compensated? By the way, the organs from “living donors” are much more effective (and function for a much longer period of years) than those taken from a person that has just died and had their organs harvested. And also, in any event, there aren’t enough dead people with “free organs” to supply the waiting list of those individuals in need of a life saving organ. Thousands of people die every day while waiting for a life saving organ. Organ “sales” save lives.
In closing, I want everyone to know that I originally supported Obama for President. That was pre-election. July or August of 2008 was when I finally realized that neither Mr Obama nor McCain was the man for the job. Though at that point I still did not know that either of them was born abroad.
One of the things I liked about Obama was the fact that he supported research into, and further development of, LED healing techniques. Especially because it was to be used for help soldiers in the US Military.
I have a list (though not a terribly long one) of reasons why I originally supported Mr Obama.
If Mr Obama is eligible to serve as US President than so be it. I’m not shell of man like Glenn Beck that wants to pretend to be the new breed of civil rights activist in America. I almost get sick to my stomach even at the idea of Glenn Beck shopping himself as a civil right activist.
If Mr Obama is NOT eligible to serve as US President than he needs to be removed from Office.
I have his birth certificate which indicates that Mr Obama was born in Mombasa, British Protectorate of Kenya. Why is there (as there has been for the last 13 months) this intense and profound effort to silence this evidence or to discredit it and myself? People would rather make comments about the hat and shirts that I wear rather than discuss the birth certificate. It’s either that or I get the standard line about “the birth certificate doesn’t matter! it’s only the citizenship of the parents that matters here!”. Give me a break. That theory isn’t very effective in real world now is it? Mr Obama and the rest of the world are all very much aware of Mr Obama’s father’s lack of US citizenship.
If birth abroad is not significant when determining whether an individual is, or is not, a natural born citizen eligible told hold Office, then count me out of this effort to remove a President. I’m not one of the people that is “SEARCHING” for a method or strategy to remove Mr Obama from Office just because you don’t like the guys policies or the fact that he’s a covert muslim and communist or because he’s a member of the new world order.
EVERY single President that has ever governed this great country has, in fact, introduced unconstitutional and illegal policy. Today, Labor Day, is a fine example! Do any of us still know the significance of Labor Day, its origins? Did US President Grover Cleveland have the Constitutional authority to send in 12,000 US Army troops to Pullman, Illinois to quell the strike at the Pullman Palace Car Company? Did these US Army troops have the right shoot down (kill) civilians? Answer: NO. And that’s the origins of the US Holiday of Labor Day.
Again, in closing, I don’t want to hear about the “depth of the conspiracy” being of greater importance than the fundamental determining factors of what constitutes, or makes up, an individual that is a Natural Born Citizen. How is anyone going to prove that all these different people are part of conspiracy if we cant prove first that Mr Obama is not eligible to serve and hold Office of US President. I trust that everyone understands the logic here. Just to be clear, I have provided the analogy below.
The Conspiracy: Members of a secret and esoteric group all around the country are distributing a manual on how to builds your own machine that turns sliver into gold. The whole country is an uproar! The price of gold is now dropping and it’s starting to influence stock prices and even the price of milk at the local grocery store. Oh, people are mad! This secret group is only distributing the plans for the machine that produces gold to a certain demographic of society. Now people start making claims that this machine is illegal and that the guy that built has broken the law. Yet, for some reason, the Courts and even Congress continue to state that the inventor of the machine that makes gold has done nothing wrong. The maker of the machine openly admits that he manufacture the gold producing machine. The people are outraged because the Courts and Congress will do nothing. So the people start making claims that the company that supplied the parts for the machine is part of the conspiracy as well. And not only them, but the middle men as well that distribute the machine around the country are in on the conspiracy. And not only that, but the cell phone service providers that these distributers utilize for contacting clients is also part of the conspiracy. Soon there’s a long list of the individuals, corporations and government officials that are part of the evil conspiracy.
The only problem that now stands in the way of the angry people is that they have not yet proved that the machine that makes gold is actually illegal.
Not one member of the evil conspiracy is ever charged with a single crime because still the people have not proved that the machine in illegal. Yet the people still talk of the great conspiracy. One by one these people begin to die off. In the end only the people with the gold producing machine can sustain life, foe even a gallon of water now cost an ounce of gold, and only those with the gold machines can affords the prices.
Finally the last man on earth without a gold producing machine is about to pass away. His last words are, “The evil conspiracy goes much further than anyone of you could imagine!”
Thank you and good night.