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He, Lucas Smith, popped up over Doc C's blog in the comments. He, Lucas Smith, was not happy that Doc posted an anonymous debunking of his POSFKBC based on kerning of the type face.

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2011/03/ ... rtificate/

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You know what I'd still like to see? Helton Maganga's signature.

Not that it would change Smith's story. Some time back, he argued that he hadn't actually witnessed Maganga sign the document, and so the signature might've been written by a hospital clerk or other associate of Maganga's, rather than Maganga himself.

What a convenient position to take, when the only other signatures on the document that could be tested are 1) a guy who's been dead for years, and 2) a guy who no one's been able to confirm ever existed at all.

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He, Lucas Smith, popped up over Doc C's blog in the comments. He, Lucas Smith, was not happy that Doc posted an anonymous debunking of his POSFKBC based on kerning of the type face.

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Let your new blog report stand as a testament to the unethical lengths that skeptics will go to discredit the 1961 CPGH Obama birth certificate.

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I haven't been over to his YoutTube "blog" of late :P but I did see that he uploaded something to his scribd account the day before yesterday.

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1950 Colony of Hong Kong birth certificate (no reference or me...

Uploaded by: Patriot1980 — The lease that Britain had on Hong Kong (from China) was the same sort of lease that they British had on the Protectorate ...

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I guess he's talking about it on his "blog".

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So what was he, Lucas Smith in jail in Newton, IA for back in the fall? Poor guy. Gets out of the pokey then gets abducted by rogue Mexicans.

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I've been pestering him with inconvient questions about why Heltan Maganga actually says that his signature isn't on that document.

Apparently, a birther (Jim Bryne) from the Post and Email actually managed to email Dr. Maganga and asked the following 3 questions:

1. Were you the Chief Administrator (or acting Chief Administrator) of CPGH on Feb. 19th 2009?

2. Do the stamp and signature that appear in the attached document appear to be your stamp and signature?

3. Is the attached CPGH birth certificate representative of what a birth certificate issued by CPGH in 1961 would look like?

He recieved this reply back:

From: Heltan Maganga
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 4:53 PM
To: Jim Byrne
Subject: Re: Lt. Col. Lakin
The answers to all your questions is a resounding NO.

Jim Bryne says that the headers appear to have been sent from Kenya.


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So what was he, Lucas Smith in jail in Newton, IA for back in the fall? Poor guy. Gets out of the pokey then gets abducted by rogue Mexicans.



I musta been absent that day. :-?

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Does this mean we can add statutory rape to the list of Lucas' offenses?

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In the past I often kissed and had sex with a girl that was 14 years old (I was 24)...

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Does this mean we can add statutory rape to the list of Lucas' offenses?

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§ 2423. TRANSPORTATION OF MINORS

(c) Engaging in illicit sexual conduct in foreign places. Any United States citizen or alien admitted for permanent residence who travels in foreign commerce, and engages in any illicit sexual conduct with another person shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both.

(f) Definition. As used in this section, the term "illicit sexual conduct" means (1) a sexual act (as defined in section 2246 [18 USCS § 2246]) with a person under 18 years of age that would be in violation of chapter 109A [18 USCS §§ 2241 et seq.] if the sexual act occurred in the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the United States; or (2) any commercial sex act (as defined in section 1591 [18 USCS § 1591]) with a person under 18 years of age."


So Lucas Smith is not only a con artist and a felon convicted of forgery, but by his own admission, he's a pedophile.

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[...]This is not atypical. Sometimes we as Americans (and Europeans) forget to remember that not all cultures of the world care about dates. Obsessive compulsive behavior is a trait is a trait that was, and is, prevalent (though not exclusive) among white Europeans. This is obvious even in today’s world. I’ve spent several years of my life abroad and long ago it became overtly obvious to me that that dates and times of past are mostly only imperative to anal retentive whites or Europeans. My wife and friends (largely foreigners rarely if ever recall anything by date nor do they place any importance on dates). Many cultures recall events by season and pegging events to other events that happened during the same time period.

As a sociologist I’ve even found that there are many older Black Americans that were born in the south that do not know their exact dates of births. Most have identification but the birth date listed is fiction and was listed as some in the past as a substitute for something that was a requirement to officially obtain the ID.

We as Americans tend to forget that America does not make up ‘el mundo entero’. My mother-in-law has never driven a car in her life. I have friends their that graduated high school when they 21 years old. I often drive my car down the wrong side of the street into on coming traffic (to get around slow traffic) there and the police just wave at me (when, if ever, they see it). I also take a shower with buckets of water that me and my family fill up from a ‘tapped’ PVC pipe down the hill from where we live. Our car runs of or natural gas container in the trunk and so does or kitchen stove. The street that I live on is only about 2 1/2 feet wide, I can barely get my ‘moto’ dirt bike motorcycle down it. Th electricity wiring up above the houses and streets looks like giant spider webs that hand here and there and everywhere and they cobbled together with any sort or wire including wire hangers anything scarp wire (no gauge is too small) and the wires are often spliced in with crude metal grips with plastics tap wrapped liberally around the handles. I’ve bought illegal guns from local police for about $300 a piece. Most houses don’t have glass windows we have metal blind that are cranked open day and most nights. I often ride my ‘moto’ with 3 people on it often times 4th person which is baby in someones arms. Sometimes when I am in ‘el campo’ I walk around naked and take showers in the river and time and dates fade away as if they never existed in the first place and then know that I never ever never ever want to set foot upon lands again that ruled by anal retentive types that want me to buy a permit to just about anything and also present my social security number and proof insurance and also pay my annual property tax. Btw, my mother-in-law owns property and she as never paid and annual property tax, and you know why?-because such taxes (rents) do not exist. My wife often prays to saints at night and she lights a candle and makes a request to the saints and most of the time the request soon materializes. Politics are big there an often those running for government office arrive in the poor sectors and set up big makeshift swimming pools and they hand out cash and food in exchange, literally, for your vote. In the past I often kissed and had sex with a girl that was 14 years old (I was 24) and the girls family supported this and wanted me to marry her and become their son in law and everyone knew about it even local police. I once moved out of the slums with my wife to a nice place and I used to bribe the electric company employee with the equivalent of $8 US dollar to not cut my electricity off more another month. When I get sick with ‘gripe’ my wife often melts Vicks vapor run into a runny liquid substance mixed with other ingredients and then I drink it. When I me and a friend of mine once got a really bad rash her mother saved up her urine and the sprayed us down with it. When i drive my a car that is my wife’s name and I get stop at random check point I am always allowed to pass freely once they hear my voice and know that I am an American, I dont have a driver’s license there and I don’t need one. At the airport I can bring anything amount of luggage and electronics into the country as long as I slip about the $30 US dollar in someone’s hands. Electricity goes on and off throughout the day and what a lot people does is they hook a car battery into the wiring in their house. While the power is on this charged the car battery and then when the power goes the house runs on the car battery. Sometime when the juice is near gone from car battery the lights in the house dim and the all the fans run slow and make a warping sound. Btw, we have to sleep under fan at night because this block the mosquitoes because the aren’t strong enough to fly into the fans breeze.

Does all of that sound like the life you know it? I think not. I don’t understand why American apply their norms to the rest of the world as if we all think a like and have the same culture, norms and rule society.


He's a liar. Who can tell how much is true, and how much is just BS. But yeah, he's a criminal.

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He's a liar. Who can tell how much is true, and how much is just BS. But yeah, he's a criminal.

He certainly can wax eloquent about the DR when he's not being grilled about Kenya.

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oh, he picked up his ball and went home. :-?

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2011/03/ ... ment-97913

I'm guess he went back to his "blog"
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Loren wrote:
Does this mean we can add statutory rape to the list of Lucas' offenses?

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In the past I often kissed and had sex with a girl that was 14 years old (I was 24)...


And yet, to birther scum, he's the most credible person in the world, more credible than doctors, governors, FactCheck, Blackstone, etc. A thieving jailbird child molester is their gold standard of proof.

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So far he has no answer for why the "baby Obama" on his fake kenyan bc has some form of dwarfism but President Obama is not only normal, but taller than average.

Several people have asked him, but he just ignores it. LOL!

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So far he has no answer for why the "baby Obama" on his fake kenyan bc has some form of dwarfism but President Obama is not only normal, but taller than average.

Several people have asked him, but he just ignores it. LOL!


The entire "very tall dwarf" stuff makes me lol.

He also seems reticent to discuss places they have visited in common in Kenya with mari even though she asked really nicely.

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I think Doc made a big mistake posting that pedantic printing, kerning essay. It has given Lucas Smith a shiny object to make excuses to confuse the issue and distract from the glaring technical and factual mistakes on the POSFKNBC. The FKBC was almost dead and Lucas Smith almost completely discredited, but Doc's post has resurrected it and Lucas Smith as a viable birther player.His explanations for his forgery will satisfy the birthers who want to believe. We have also learned that in addition to being a forger, Lucas Smith admits to passing bad checks and having sex with a minor.


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I think Doc made a big mistake posting that pedantic printing, kerning essay. It has given Lucas Smith a shiny object to make excuses to confuse the issue and distract from the glaring technical and factual mistakes on the POSFKNBC. The FKBC was almost dead and Lucas Smith almost completely discredited, but Doc's post has resurrected it and Lucas Smith as a viable birther player.His explanations for his forgery will satisfy the birthers who want to believe. We have also learned that in addition to being a forger, Lucas Smith admits to passing bad checks and having sex with a minor.


I agree that there was little point in resurrecting this thing. There is no way it will ever be admitted as evidence in any valid legal proceeding, so why bother to continue to argue whether it is real or not? I know that we are in the biz of debunking, but it's already been pretty thoroughly discredited along with its proponent. This is kind of like Gov. Abbie's recent travails. There is just no reason to reanimate these corpses.

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I agree that there was little point in resurrecting this thing. There is no way it will ever be admitted as evidence in any valid legal proceeding, so why bother to continue to argue whether it is real or not? I know that we are in the biz of debunking, but it's already been pretty thoroughly discredited along with its proponent. This is kind of like Gov. Abbie's recent travails. There is just no reason to reanimate these corpses.



The thing is discredited on it's face, any kind of debate as to it's intricacies is a game for fools. Put it on TV - print - billboards, shine a light on all these ridiculous, stupid and laughable holy birther relics. Lets make these birfer politicians own this shit. Show the average joe six pack just how phony they are.


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...He also seems reticent to discuss...[anything]...

Not too reticent Smith has an appearance at
"The Foundation Building, 14465 W. Robt H Johnson Blvd., Sun City West Arizona April 12, 2011 at 6 PM."
First "LUCAS DANIEL SMITH WILL TELL YOU HOW HE OBTAINED OBAMA'S KENYAN BIRTH CERTIFICATE FROM MOMBASSA COAST PROVINCIAL HOSPITAl...." and we can "HEAR THE STORY FROM LUCAS HIMSELF QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD TO FOLLOW"

Not clear to me who is sponsoring this, who is behind the Birther blog ConservativeArizonaPatriot, why he is repeating the Barnett lies, or what scam Lucas has going now.
Any TFBers going to be near Sun City West Arizona?

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What's he doing in Arizona?

The blogtalk show he was on yesterday is based out of Scottsdale, Arizona. Is Lucas Smith's presence (whether now or upcoming) in Arizona and the resurrection of the Arizona Birther Bill just a coinkydink?

http://www.americanfreedombybarbara.com ... html#links

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http://www.americanfreedombybarbara.com/

Soros erased the big show. :P The archive is only 3 minutes long. The program didn't archive properly.

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Barbara on What's in the Arizona GOP Drinking Water read the full story at http://www.americanfreedombybarbara.com and http://www.politicomafioso.com Guest: Nohl Rosen, Nohl is a North Phoenix small business leader and owns a computer repair company called Panther TEK. We are going to be discussing his recent request for information from the City of Phoenix and the he reply received that was a little unusual. "Thank you for e-mailing the City of Phoenix Mayor/Council office. Because of a public records request, your e-mail also will be reviewed by the Arizona Republic Newspaper. Guest: Lucas Daniel Smith, the person that claims he obtained an Obama birth certificate in Mombasa, Kenya



Nothing to hear. It's just the beginning of the show. Neither Lucas nor the other guest is on it, Just Barbara.



http://www.blogtalkradio.com/haironfire ... fire-1.mp3


Edit: ETA: Lucky Arizonians. Bob Campbell AND Barbara with her hair on fire.

Apparently she has some kind of audience. She landed an interview with Russell Pearce.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/haironfire ... ir-on-fire

That program might be an interesting listen.

I clicked the button and FF a bit and he's talking about Wong Kim Ark. (about 10:00 mark.)



http://www.blogtalkradio.com/haironfire ... n-fire.mp3

Oh yeah, he's rambling about the immigration bill. I can't listen right now, but I might later.

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he uploaded his passport to scribd. It hasn't hit his timeline yet. It's just the first page, so what's that about?

http://www.scribd.com/doc/51327212/US-P ... niel-Smith

He also uploaded other documents over the past few days. I rarely understand why. His timeline:
http://www.scribd.com/Patriot1980

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he uploaded his passport to scribd. It hasn't hit his timeline yet. It's just the first page, so what's that about?

http://www.scribd.com/doc/51327212/US-P ... niel-Smith

He also uploaded other documents over the past few days. I rarely understand why. His timeline:
http://www.scribd.com/Patriot1980

The little forger/conman was asked to post his passport with the Visa proving he was in Kenya. See, he's posted it. The Visa? Well, it's in there. You just have to turn the pages of Scribd to do it. Can't? Well, that's your problem, because he, Lucas Smith, has posted his passport.

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