from the same thread, the psychic connection:

Other remote viewers claim that Ed Dames himself trained Obama for a secret CIA mission to mars.

Who is more credible?

i'll have to go with



i have no doubt it's 100% true.

From deep thinker Fred Nerks at the hot new birther thread

Vital Records Indicate Obama Not Born In Hawaii Hospital (PART 3)

"We are like little children in comparison to the cabal that set up this deception. That there are so many who still believe the myth of ‘Dreams’ tends to prove it. It’s been what ? four years of back and forth, and there are STILL people who believe a black native kenyan met a little white girl from Kansas, they fell in love in Hawaii and married - and she gave birth to zero...

Guess it’s more comforting than having to deal with the fact that no one knows who his parents are, or where he came from."

I see this again and again. We don't know who President Obama's real parents were. So the birthers are saying that this:

A Singular Woman: The Untold Story of Barack Obama's Mother

and this

The Other Barack: The Bold and Reckless Life of President Obama's Father

are total works of fiction! And all the interviews inside both books are total works of fiction! Dozens and dozens of folks just making up stories of whole cloth about the parents.

Love that Fred Nerks. Love the birthers. Endless entertainment.

FreeRepublic: Obama 1990 Interview: ‘We’re Going To Reshape Mean Spirited America’

What do the folks at FR seem to not notice in this 1990 newspaper article? The fourth paragraph:

"His passion is rooted in his background. He was born in Hawaii, his father an Oxford and Harvard-educated economist from the African nation of Kenya, his mother a white anthropologist from Kansas."

That rather puts a damper on the Birthers who claim that Obama regularly claimed to be foreign-born until the mid-to-late 1990s, when he started seeking higher office and then retconned his birthplace to be Hawaii.

Actually, it's unfair to say that *no one* at FR noticed this. One did, but he immediately disputed that it says "was."

They also didn't notice that they already talked about the article a couple times in 2008. At the time, (once in April, once in October, but I'm on the iPad so I don't have the links), they were wigged out about some of the other quotes. Nothing at all about being from Hawaii.

That's not a problem in Birther World. It seems commonplace for them to take a document or other source and pick as choose which parts are "100% Truth" and which are "Complete Lies to Disregard". Of course, which ones to treat as which depend wholly on whether they help the birther cause.

Take that school registration form from Indonesia. It says a name of Soetoro - in their mind that is 100% unimpeachable proof that President Obama was adopted by Soetoro and renounced his citizenship despite laws in Indonesia to the contrary. However, the part of the form where it says "Birthplace: Hawaii" is 100% a fabrication and lie.

It's easy when you try to think like a birther. Just parse every document and word not based on fact or truth, but based on whether or not it means USURPER.

on communing with one's inner flora:



hang on a minnit, lemmie consult my rice krispies first ...

Well, except for the network of childhood friends that he visits every Christmas in Hawaii and that he continues to play basketball with. Plus all the ones who remember him from Hawaii and Indonesia. Other than that, yeah.

BTW -- I gave ex animo this link: http://www.thefogbow.com/special-report ... ent-obama/ and said there were 3 very long pages of people who remembered Obama growing up and at school. He clicked on it (the index page) and said a few family snapshots mean nothing. I guess I need to add: "Clink on these links to see more stuff."

I know its a waste but I'd suggest poking him again with that helpful hint about further links to click. See if he squirms or plays dumb.

I did, no response so far. http://birtherthinktank.wordpress.com/2 ... /#comments

"Plays"?????

Yeah, he seems to have switched his tactics to piss-and-run -- he now avoids the lengthy debates that he's sure to lose, he just posts "provocative" questions like "If the government can bestow allegiance at birth, what is the difference between a natural born Citizen and a natural born subject?" (here).

At least for now he's taking refuge in his belief that "[t]he Ankeny ruling, like Wong, will eventually fall if our American Birthright is to prevail."

(Porting over a conversation from the Posse thread)



So what should we expect to happen in August 2012? Oh please enlighten me, DiogenesLamp:



It's been a while since I've seen someone seriously entertain the 'Obama is the Antichrist' argument.

You need something to win over all those Obama supporters who are only voting for him because they don't know he's the Antichrist.

I thought that the Antichrist only appears after the Rapture. Does that mean that all these "Obama is the Antichrist" people all missed it and were NOT Raptured??

from Wikipedia: The rapture is a reference to the "being caught up" referred to in 1 Thessalonians .... return of Christ, the first phase being a secret rapture prior to the rise of the Antichrist.

Earlier this week, Danae went bipartisan, and started speculating about Rick Santorum's eligibility.

Jim Robinson would have none of that:



This was reiterated by an Admin Moderator today:



So in Santorum's case, a "document on the internet" is deemed to be determinative on the issue. Funny, that.

Jim also had words for a couple of familiar faces:

To Danae:



To butterdezillion:

Um, Stanley Amour Dunham, IIRC served in World War II (as did his brother). Madelyn Dunham worked in a war plant and her brother served too. Evidently, though since Stanley and Madelyn raised Obama from when he was 10, that doesn't aptly demonstrate the President's loyalty. (Santorum's father though evidently does )

i can still remember that! when they were publicly and notoriously shamed into continuing to not notice your existence!

riiiiiiiight. it's not that birfers don't, haven't had and will never have the numbers for "those kind of events" -- it's that they're ICKY!

from the bureau of "where's the beef?":



ok, i'll grant, arguendo, that everything happened as diogenesRump describes. so when exactly does a court-ordered replacement birth certificate from the department that issues them become no longer legal?

And where is the record of the court case. HI doesn't do squat in court without records. Someone had to put this on their time card.

morons

Well that's just silly. If the court annulled all those adoptions they wouldn't have to produce a new one. They'd just unseal the original.

BirtherLogic^FM makes the head spin.