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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:50 pm 
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OK, new twist (literally) on the BC image (at least to me):



Some elements are rotated 24%, except the background which is 48%, which proves it's a forgery. Any quick debunkings?

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I believe the claims that rotation means forgery were made by Albert Renshaw. John Woodman addresses these in his book.

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Reality Check wrote:
I believe the claims that rotation means forgery were made by Albert Renshaw. John Woodman addresses these in his book.


Excellent lead, thanks!

But Raicha won't let me serve pie anymore. :((

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He's still talking about anomalies in a PDF. Nothing to do with a document.

Has he looked at the high-res JPEG of the birth certificate?

Why would anyone need to insert "non" and turn it sideways, to make it look just like the photo of the document?

This was Woodman's strongest argument, to me.

All the stuff they did to the PDF that was a forgery job -- kerning, layers, links, all that shit -- was done just to make the PDF look pretty much like the high-res photograph, and just like the actual paper document that Savannah somebody said she held in her hand.

Why go to all that work?

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Reality Check wrote:
I believe the claims that rotation means forgery were made by Albert Renshaw. John Woodman addresses these in his book.


rotation, links, etc. explained...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHZQ_SrE ... r_embedded

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realist wrote:

EXCELLENT! Thanks, Realist.

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neonzx wrote:
realist wrote:

EXCELLENT! Thanks, Realist.


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So, let me get this right - the birthers are STILL trying desperately to come up with more "suspicious tidbits of (fake) technical evidence" that the President of the USA retained the services of the worst, most incompetent forgerers in the En-Tire world to create out of pieces and parts an online image of THE long awaited LFBC .....that these secret forgerators are so inept and incapable that they did not create a forgery of a printed document and scan that to post to the public - Noooooo the birthers insist these guys did it the hard way that was sure to be found out - they assembled it as a digital image and posted that assembled image online, with all of its assembly clues intact and easily seen....... That there is no printed document, authentic or fabricated.

Because those forgering this image are so Stupid they couldn't possibly image that this image of that document would be scrutinized by an army of halfwit conspiracy theorists who would tear at that image like no other image in history - a level of scrutiny that surpasses what has been done to look into the Shroud of Turin....
that's their argument ? That Obama's an idiot who hires idiots that are far far dumber than birthers to do the MOST sensitive top secret work ever done for him ?????

And on top of that, birthers require everyone to ignore everything said and written by multiple officials in the Hawaii DOH....
Astounding.

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Astounding.

Not at all astounding when you consider they all operate on the left side of the bell curve.

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realist wrote:
Reality Check wrote:
I believe the claims that rotation means forgery were made by Albert Renshaw. John Woodman addresses these in his book.


rotation, links, etc. explained...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHZQ_SrE ... r_embedded


Wow. Do we know this guy?

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