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PostPosted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:10 am 
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I discovered this episode yesterday:

South Park: Mystery of the Urinal Deuce

Wherein South Park addresses 9/11 conspiracy theories. I actually kinda hope they'll take on Birtherdom at some point in Season 13, since it's right up their alley.

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I actually kinda hope they'll take on Birtherdom at some point in Season 13, since it's right up their alley.


Did you see "About Last Night". aired 23 hours after Obama won the election? The plot is a parody of Ocean's Eleven(Obama/McCain are Clooney/Pitt like thieves, faking the entire 2008 election to steal a diamond) and includes a brief reference to Obama's grandmother pretending to be dead as part of a conspiracy.

The South Park creators are very good at topical plotlines. A few weeks after the Somali pirate hijacking, they had a "south park gets hijacked by somali pirates" episode which ended with Navy SEALS shooting all the Somalis.

The program's producers have said they were so confident Obama would win, they didn't film a "McCain victory" alternate ending.

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Neil Cavuto interviewed this chap and I don't know how he kept a straight face.
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Here is an eyewitness report on TPM.

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Neil Cavuto interviewed this chap and I don't know how he kept a straight face.
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I didn't see this here. It's the lead story from KLBK on 8/30. The lead story in Lubbock, TX.




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`At least they aired it. Thank you KLBK! As always you'll hear the mantra of BHO already haven shown proof of elligiblity. Newscasters were fair and that's all we can ask so let's see if any other news groups will give "Fair" time to this Constitutional Crisis. We are disheartened that they reported our actions as a "Law Suit" when, in fact, it is a "Petition to the D.C. District court requesting THEY convene a Federal Grand Jury to look into the issue". An err on their part? Will they retract that mistake? Somehow, I think not but it, at least, is now out there for you to decide.

"Define Natural Born Status", the clarion call of http://www.riseupforamerica.com - http://www.AmericanGrandJury.org - http://www.PHNMedia.com and scores of other sites arround the country. This issue will not go away until and unless it is addressed, head on, by either the courts or the U.S. CONgress. There is now ample evidence that the courts will continue to try to sweep this under the rug, that CONgress will continue to march us towards Communism and that Patriots like Dr. Penny Kelso will be vilified by the Elitist Media who, for all intents and purposes. are co-conspirators in this Anti-American Agenda.

As smart as they claim to be they will NEVER get away with re-writing history. Never get away with their continued refusal to report on real issues confronting us. Go ahead Media, tell the American public about the U.S.A. Corporation, tell us about the Rosicrucian roots in FDR, tell us about the FACT that we have lost our soveriegnty and tell us about abomination of the Admirality courts we call our Jurisprudence. Remind us that we own NOTHING.., not our houses, our cars or the money in our pockets. Remind us that we were never freed from slavery but rather all made slaves by the 14th Amendment. Remind us that historical evidence can prove the war between the states was initiated by the Rothchilds and their cast of "players", that we have been in a perpetual state of bankruptcy since 1933. How about the FACT that we have not had a duly elected president since FDR or that CONgress is a total sham.

WE CAN HANDLE THE TRUTH.., CAN YOU SPEAK IT????

KLBK TV 13--Brian Mudd and Terri Furman....Interviewer was Danielle Todoso
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Remind us that historical evidence can prove the war between the states was initiated by the Rothchilds and their cast of "players" . . .

The anti-Semitism just seeps through. And the lack of spelling, too. (Rothschilds.)

When is Carl going to trot out The Protocols of the Elders of Zion?

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Kelso states that the CONSTITUTION requires that Obama's mother live in the US for 10 consecutive years after the age of 14 in order to give her son NBCship.

=)) =)) =))

Isn't the CGJ's argument that one must have 2 parents who are US citizens in order to be a NBC? And yet, no mention of that argument by Kelso. But, Kelso makes sure that we know that Obama's mother had to be 24 to give his NBCship!

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Kelso states that the CONSTITUTION requires that Obama's mother live in the US for 10 consecutive years after the age of 14 in order to give her son NBCship.

=)) =)) =))

Isn't the CGJ's argument that one must have 2 parents who are US citizens in order to be a NBC? And yet, no mention of that argument by Kelso. But, Kelso makes sure that we know that Obama's mother had to be 24 to give his NBCship!

Right. Natural born status can be defeased by the subsequent conduct of one's mother. Sure.

On the other hand, the President has to live in the US for at least 14 years. Are they consecutive and immediately prior to being elected? Birthers would scream "yes!" based on their zany theories about "allegiance." I would scream Herbert Hoover!

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Kelso states that the CONSTITUTION requires that Obama's mother live in the US for 10 consecutive years after the age of 14 in order to give her son NBCship.

=)) =)) =))
Isn't the CGJ's argument that one must have 2 parents who are US citizens in order to be a NBC? And yet, no mention of that argument by Kelso. But, Kelso makes sure that we know that Obama's mother had to be 24 to give his NBCship!

Right. Natural born status can be defeased by the subsequent conduct of one's mother. Sure.

On the other hand, the President has to live in the US for at least 14 years. Are they consecutive and immediately prior to being elected? Birthers would scream "yes!" based on their zany theories about "allegiance." I would scream Herbert Hoover!


I've been curious about this for a while. Counting Obama, there have been 8 presidents that had one (or more) foreign born parent. Since there is noting written that states a president's parents must both bekind of American citizens, wouldn't the fact about these 8 presidents have some kind of bearing on the case?

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Sterngard Friegen wrote:
LM K wrote:
Kelso states that the CONSTITUTION requires that Obama's mother live in the US for 10 consecutive years after the age of 14 in order to give her son NBCship.

=)) =)) =))
Isn't the CGJ's argument that one must have 2 parents who are US citizens in order to be a NBC? And yet, no mention of that argument by Kelso. But, Kelso makes sure that we know that Obama's mother had to be 24 to give his NBCship!

Right. Natural born status can be defeased by the subsequent conduct of one's mother. Sure.

On the other hand, the President has to live in the US for at least 14 years. Are they consecutive and immediately prior to being elected? Birthers would scream "yes!" based on their zany theories about "allegiance." I would scream Herbert Hoover!


I've been curious about this for a while. Counting Obama, there have been 8 presidents that had one (or more) foreign born parent. Since there is noting written that states a president's parents must both bekind of American citizens, wouldn't the fact about these 8 presidents have some kind of bearing on the case?

U.S. immigration and naturalization laws reflect the sexism and racism of their time of enactment. Excluding Chester Arthur all of the other non-citizens have been presidents' mothers, and upon marriage most (if not all) of them automatically acquired their husbands' citizenship. Some may not have accepted it formally, but the birfoons do cling to this thin reed.

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U.S. immigration and naturalization laws reflect the sexism and racism of their time of enactment. Excluding Chester Arthur all of the other non-citizens have been presidents' mothers, and upon marriage most (if not all) of them automatically acquired their husbands' citizenship. Some may not have accepted it formally, but the birfoons do cling to this thin reed.[/quote]

Thanks for the answer.

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majorbabs wrote:
Sterngard Friegen wrote:
LM K wrote:
Kelso states that the CONSTITUTION requires that Obama's mother live in the US for 10 consecutive years after the age of 14 in order to give her son NBCship.

=)) =)) =))
Isn't the CGJ's argument that one must have 2 parents who are US citizens in order to be a NBC? And yet, no mention of that argument by Kelso. But, Kelso makes sure that we know that Obama's mother had to be 24 to give his NBCship!

Right. Natural born status can be defeased by the subsequent conduct of one's mother. Sure.

On the other hand, the President has to live in the US for at least 14 years. Are they consecutive and immediately prior to being elected? Birthers would scream "yes!" based on their zany theories about "allegiance." I would scream Herbert Hoover!


I've been curious about this for a while. Counting Obama, there have been 8 presidents that had one (or more) foreign born parent. Since there is noting written that states a president's parents must both bekind of American citizens, wouldn't the fact about these 8 presidents have some kind of bearing on the case?


If they apply the l4 year rule stringently I think that might've ruled out George HW Bush...in China. Ike, too. Teddy Roosevelt since he was serving in Cuba. Not sure if Jefferson was back for l4 years. Jackson and Tyler (or was it Taylor) were on Foreign campaigns. If one holds that the Confederacy was independent then Grant was on foreign soil. BTW Petraeus could be in trouble on this account.

I would bet that there might be a few Presidents or candidates that have Moms residing abroad for a period less than l0 full years after age of l4. Probably easier to check the fathers...who might be military or diplomats if their wives were with them.

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Heck, it would rule out John Adams, who was still a diplomat in Europe earlier in the same year that he was elected Vice-President.

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Ah, but birfers see this as a badge of honor. It means that they're "getting to them," dontcha know.

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Not sure if Jefferson was back for l4 years



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Heck, it would rule out John Adams, who was still a diplomat in Europe earlier in the same year that he was elected Vice-President.



Rule out Thomas Jefferson, he returned from France in 1789. Became President 1801.


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By DAVID WEIGEL 9/10/09 5:08 PM

This morning, at the “Freedom Summit” that kicked off three days of small government Tea Party protests, I broke from a conversation I’d been having with some attendees when one of them approached Sen. James Inhofe (R-Okla.) and asked about the feasibility of suing the government over unconstitutional legislation. Inhofe, seemingly out of nowhere, brought up the example of President Obama’s citizenship.

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By DAVID WEIGEL 9/10/09 5:08 PM

This morning, at the “Freedom Summit” that kicked off three days of small government Tea Party protests, I broke from a conversation I’d been having with some attendees when one of them approached Sen. James Inhofe (R-Okla.) and asked about the feasibility of suing the government over unconstitutional legislation. Inhofe, seemingly out of nowhere, brought up the example of President Obama’s citizenship.

Transcript and video below the fold.


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You, as a citizen, can say “this is unconstitutional.” File the lawsuit, go through the whole thing. Now, on the whole idea of the birth certificate for Obama, for example. You can do that. By the time you got a decision, it’d be ten years from now. And then the damage is already done.

Imhofe is disingenuously trying to figure out how to thread the needle. He crassly avoids telling the nutbags that they are nuts. What a piece of work he is. When the next Profiles in Courage is written he will be the anti-matter example.

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Sorry I'm such a computer moran :oops: and can only provide this link, but Anderson Cooper did a good job with this exchange between David Gergen, James Carville, & Mark Williams of the Tea Party Express Tour.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestof ... ideosearch

Williams acts like a classic RW Nutjob with his smarmy grins & smirks. Who is he? He made comments suggesting he does talk radio in Sacramento? He tries to sound credible by referring to "the seeds of socialism planted by George W". He tries to sound reasonable but Cooper nails him at about 9:03: I love Gergen's & Carville's body language after his comments! To paraphrase Cooper, he says that what Williams just said makes sense but, on the other hand, Williams' blog refers to the President as "an Indonesian Muslim turned Racist in Chief" & a "welfare thug." The incredulous Gergen just has to say the obvious: Do you believe he's Indonesian? Do you believe he's Muslim? It's great material to show how the Right is just winking at the Birthers, pretending they're above the lunacy, but egging them on until someone bombs a courthouse & they can pretend it's not their fault.

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Williams acts like a classic RW Nutjob with his smarmy grins & smirks. Who is he? He made comments suggesting he does talk radio in Sacramento? He tries to sound credible by referring to "the seeds of socialism planted by George W".


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Willi ... io_host%29

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(Sigh. Still sad Jerry Doyle seems to have allied himself with the 21st century version of NightWatch and the Clark Administration.......)

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This guy buys every conspiracy there is.....But, this particular video, he begs members of the military to refuse to deploy.



Who is the "Marine" who refused, does he mean Army Maj Cook? I couldn't take the whole video, just the first minute. Any more and I would Image

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