The Hun is a (steady) Drip - Sam Sewell

mimi · **Posted:** Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:28 pm

deleted (cuz... brain clouds or somthing.)

mimi · **Posted:** Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:46 pm

mimi wrote:

I don't believe he's a licensed psycho-anything. We looked into that awhile back.

Very creepy that he wrote that letter. Of course it's not surprising. He's a slimy guy.

Edit: ETA:

Florida licenses search. No Bunny. No Sam.

http://ww2.doh.state.fl.us/IRM00PRAES/PRASLIST.ASP

I can't find him certified at that aapc thing either.

https://aapc.org/civicrm/profile?q=civi ... wCount=100

He's just your everyday lying POS birther.

A Legal Lohengrin · **Joined:** Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:56 pm **Posts:** 9708

mimi wrote:

I don't believe he's a licensed psycho-anything. We looked into that awhile back.

He may not be licensed, but he's definitely a psycho.

kimba · **Joined:** Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:24 pm **Posts:** 6732

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The family of a gifted child is moving to Seattle. Because of problems in the past at a local they are concerned that the new school they chose has properly vetted their faculty and staff.

Then the family of the gifted child moving to Seattle should ask the school how they vet their faculty and staff. It's not such a difficult question. Why has Sammie inserted himself into it? Silliness.

LM K · **Posted:** Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:53 pm

Welsh Dragon wrote:

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Would I be correct in assuming that the aaopp is pretty much Sam and Bunny Sewell and maybe a couple of other followers??

I suspect so although Sam's certification number is allegedly #7606.The only other person I can find who claims affiliation is a guy in NH which is significant because NH has a licensing system for pastoral psychotherapists and FL does not.

NH guy must not meet the certification standards for NH.

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Dr. Mokkosian is a certified "Fellow" in the American Association of Pastoral Psychotherapists, and licensed by the state of New Hampshire as a licensed Pastoral Psychotherapist.

However, when I checked for Dr. John Mokkosian's NH license, he wasn't listed. He appears to meet their certification requirements, and his education background appears solid. He shouldn't say that he is licensed if he isn't, but it is possible that he just didn't pay his dues or something.But .... why is he now with the AAoPP, which has existed for less than a year?

Sammie is absolutely, positively not certified or licensed in anything. I have PMs from him admitting that to be true.

According to Hun, the Constitution bans pastoral "psychotherapists" to be licensed; separation of church and state and all of that. That is a blatant lie. Sammie also won't say where he went to school. I wonder if he obtained his Ph.D. through a diploma mill. I wonder if it is real. I have never met a professional who hides their academic history.

I would immediately report this to MENSA. It is one thing to harass someone. It is quite another to do so as the representative of an international organization that is well respected.

Going to MENSA is, IMO, the most efficient way to deal with this. It will also piss Sammie off to no end. He never expects to be called out for his "swift boating" activities. He is a bully. But he doesn't get to bully you on behalf of MENSA.

Pat, PM me if I can be of assistance. I have tinkered with reporting him to the state of FL for misrepresentation of professional services. I didn't for several reasons. However, it is an issue that I go back and forth on ... perhaps it is time for me to revisit my decision. Esp if he is claiming to have a license. He can't possibly be licensed by the state.

Interesting stuff:

Sammie has a "doctor" with his practice now. She practices "orthomolecular psychopharmacology". This is a made-up term. Made up by BestSelfUSA. The other therapists who were working with the Sewells are gone.

Sammie has revised his entire website. Interestingly, in his FAQ's area, he notes that the info is "generously provided by the American Association of Pastoral Psychotherapists". This list is the same one that was on his previous website.

The domain name for the AAoPP website is registered to Paul Tronnier.

Sammie wants the American Association of Pastoral Psychotherapists to be confused with the American Association of Pastoral Counselors.

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Under the auspices of AAPC, pastoral counseling adheres to rigorous standards of excellence, including education and clinical training, professional certification and licensure. Typical education for the AAPC-certified pastoral counselor consists of study that leads to:

a bachelor’s degree from an accredited college or university
a three-year professional degree from a seminary
a specialized masters or doctoral degree in the mental health field

A significant portion of this education is spent in clinical training. Post-graduate training involves completion of at least 1,375 hours of supervised clinical experience (that is, the counselor provides individual, group, marital and family therapy) and 250 hours of direct approved supervision of the therapist’s work in both crisis and long-term situations.

The Sewells charge an awful lot for their services. They charge $10 per email response unless you purchase the $2,000 package deal.

Mr. MENSA (or the website creator) writes:

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Too verify membership or ask questions about pastoral psychotherapists, click this email: info@AAoPP.org

When I searched "American Association of Pastoral Psychotherapists", only 11 links come up. Several are to aaopp.org, several are to NH guy's website and 2 of them link to Sammie's Mysteries of the Universe website.

In this economy, who can afford Sammie's services? Seriously!

I have absolutely no problem with pastoral counselors; until I decided clinical work wasn't for me and became an agnostic, I was going to be a pastoral counselor working in hospital chaplaincy.

Sammie, God really does care when you swindle people. S/he really does. And you know it.

Edit: To correct info.

Welsh Dragon · **Posted:** Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:59 pm

LM K wrote:

However, when I checked for Dr. John Mokkosian's NH license, he wasn't listed. He appears to meet their certification requirements, and his education background appears solid. He shouldn't say that he is licensed if he isn't, but it is possible that he just didn't pay his dues or something. But .... why is he now with the AAoPP, which has existed for less than a year?

He was sanctioned by NH in 2006 - don't know any details just a settlement agreement was reached.

DaveMuckey · **Posted:** Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:05 pm

Could the AAoPP be a similar entity to the one Rand Paul created to "certify" his ophthalmology practice? ie virtual?

Welsh Dragon · **Posted:** Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:08 pm

Actually Mokkasian is licensed in NH.

https://nhlicenses.nh.gov/MyLicense%20Verification/SearchResults.aspx

PatGund · **Posted:** Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:09 pm

kimba wrote:

Then the family of the gifted child moving to Seattle should ask the school how they vet their faculty and staff. It's not such a difficult question. Why has Sammie inserted himself into it? Silliness.

Well, I strongly suspect there's no child at all, but simply an attempt by Sewell to try and get something to smear me or my employer with. Because the question list he included with said email was:

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"BACKGROUND CHECK POLICY:
To provide for the safety of children attending functions or events sponsored by Local Groups, background checks are conducted on members working with children on two occasions: upon selection as a GCC or a supervisor of children’s activities, and at least every five years subsequent to the first background check. If a background check has been performed for another role within American Mensa, that check will be valid for the purposes of serving as the GCC for up to five years from the date of the original background check. American Mensa may conduct an updated background check at any point in time for any reason.
Issues that shall preclude service as a GCC:
 Current investigation or charges for criminal sexual conduct, neglect of a child or physical abuse.
 Conviction of any offense (felony or misdemeanor) related to harm to a child.
This may include, but is not limited to, traffic accidents, kidnapping, sexual assault of a child, injury to a child, possession or distribution of child pornography, neglect of a child, or indecent exposure. This includes convictions resulting from pleas of no lo contendere.
 Any felony conviction within the past ten years.
 Falsifying or withholding information on application.
Issues that may preclude service as a GCC:
 Traffic violations that led to serious injury of a third party.
 Felony convictions older than ten years.
 Misdemeanor convictions not involving children that display callous disregard for the health, safety, or well-being of others.
Applicants who have resided outside the United States during the past five years should contact the Gifted Youth Specialist to determine what alternative

Ignoring the fact that much of this information would be illegal for us to give out as a school, it seems to be taken from Mensa's guidelines for children's volunteers.

Considering the source, I'm suspecting fishing trip for dirt by Sewell.

BFB · **Posted:** Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:41 am

PatGund wrote:

kimba wrote:

Then the family of the gifted child moving to Seattle should ask the school how they vet their faculty and staff. It's not such a difficult question. Why has Sammie inserted himself into it? Silliness.

Well, I strongly suspect there's no child at all, but simply an attempt by Sewell to try and get something to smear me or my employer with. Because the question list he included with said email was:

Quote:

"BACKGROUND CHECK POLICY:
To provide for the safety of children attending functions or events sponsored by Local Groups, background checks are conducted on members working with children on two occasions: upon selection as a GCC or a supervisor of children’s activities, and at least every five years subsequent to the first background check. If a background check has been performed for another role within American Mensa, that check will be valid for the purposes of serving as the GCC for up to five years from the date of the original background check. American Mensa may conduct an updated background check at any point in time for any reason.
Issues that shall preclude service as a GCC:
 Current investigation or charges for criminal sexual conduct, neglect of a child or physical abuse.
 Conviction of any offense (felony or misdemeanor) related to harm to a child.
This may include, but is not limited to, traffic accidents, kidnapping, sexual assault of a child, injury to a child, possession or distribution of child pornography, neglect of a child, or indecent exposure. This includes convictions resulting from pleas of no lo contendere.
 Any felony conviction within the past ten years.
 Falsifying or withholding information on application.
Issues that may preclude service as a GCC:
 Traffic violations that led to serious injury of a third party.
 Felony convictions older than ten years.
 Misdemeanor convictions not involving children that display callous disregard for the health, safety, or well-being of others.
Applicants who have resided outside the United States during the past five years should contact the Gifted Youth Specialist to determine what alternative

Ignoring the fact that much of this information would be illegal for us to give out as a school, it seems to be taken from Mensa's guidelines for children's volunteers.

Considering the source, I'm suspecting fishing trip for dirt by Sewell.

What's a "GCC?"

bob · **Posted:** Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:50 am

BFB wrote:

What's a "GCC?"

Gifted Child(ren) Coordinator.

BFB · **Posted:** Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:51 am

bob wrote:

BFB wrote:

What's a "GCC?"

Gifted Child(ren) Coordinator.

So it would seem that background check information pertains to Mensa members who are GCCs, and not schools they may send their kids to.

bob · **Posted:** Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:58 am

BFB wrote:

So it would seem that background check information pertains to Mensa members who are GCCs, and not schools they may send their kids to.

Which makes total sense. And Super Genius Sam thinks he's fooling everyone.

esseff44 · **Posted:** Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:07 am

Pat Gund wrote:

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I did notice a couple things - that the email was sent from the "aaopp.org" domain, which maps to the "American Association of Pastoral Psychotherapists" based in.....Naples, Florida.

Are Pastoral Psychotherapists who you call for help when shepherds are having problems getting along with their flocks? :-?

LM K · **Posted:** Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:23 am

Welsh Dragon wrote:

LM K wrote:

However, when I checked for Dr. John Mokkosian's NH license, he wasn't listed. He appears to meet their certification requirements, and his education background appears solid. He shouldn't say that he is licensed if he isn't, but it is possible that he just didn't pay his dues or something. But .... why is he now with the AAoPP, which has existed for less than a year?

He was sanctioned by NH in 2006 - don't know any details just a settlement agreement was reached.

That would strip him of licensing. 5 years ago!!

Any note about the reason for sanctioning?

Edit: Cut irrelevant info.

LM K · **Posted:** Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:30 am

Welsh Dragon wrote:

Actually Mokkasian is licensed in NH.

https://nhlicenses.nh.gov/MyLicense%20Verification/SearchResults.aspx

I have tried that site several times on 2 browsers and can't get Mokkasian to come up at all. I could get one of his colleagues names to come up.

I'll take your word for it.

LM K · **Posted:** Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:34 am

PatGund wrote:

kimba wrote:

Then the family of the gifted child moving to Seattle should ask the school how they vet their faculty and staff. It's not such a difficult question. Why has Sammie inserted himself into it? Silliness.

Well, I strongly suspect there's no child at all, but simply an attempt by Sewell to try and get something to smear me or my employer with. Because the question list he included with said email was:

Quote:

"BACKGROUND CHECK POLICY:
To provide for the safety of children attending functions or events sponsored by Local Groups, background checks are conducted on members working with children on two occasions: upon selection as a GCC or a supervisor of children’s activities, and at least every five years subsequent to the first background check. If a background check has been performed for another role within American Mensa, that check will be valid for the purposes of serving as the GCC for up to five years from the date of the original background check. American Mensa may conduct an updated background check at any point in time for any reason.
Issues that shall preclude service as a GCC:
 Current investigation or charges for criminal sexual conduct, neglect of a child or physical abuse.
 Conviction of any offense (felony or misdemeanor) related to harm to a child.
This may include, but is not limited to, traffic accidents, kidnapping, sexual assault of a child, injury to a child, possession or distribution of child pornography, neglect of a child, or indecent exposure. This includes convictions resulting from pleas of no lo contendere.
 Any felony conviction within the past ten years.
 Falsifying or withholding information on application.
Issues that may preclude service as a GCC:
 Traffic violations that led to serious injury of a third party.
 Felony convictions older than ten years.
 Misdemeanor convictions not involving children that display callous disregard for the health, safety, or well-being of others.
Applicants who have resided outside the United States during the past five years should contact the Gifted Youth Specialist to determine what alternative

Ignoring the fact that much of this information would be illegal for us to give out as a school, it seems to be taken from Mensa's guidelines for children's volunteers.

Considering the source, I'm suspecting fishing trip for dirt by Sewell.

Gee, what gave that away? :lol:

Pat, considering that Hun included this in his email, I would absolutely contact MENSA.

PatGund · **Posted:** Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:41 am

LM K wrote:

Pat, considering that Hun included this in his email, I would absolutely contact MENSA.

I plan to tomorrow

Reality Check · **Posted:** Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:51 am

This certainly sounds "phishy". Keep us up to date Pat. Best of luck.

kimba · **Joined:** Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:24 pm **Posts:** 6732

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And Super Genius Sam thinks he's fooling everyone.

A trait I've noticed in every Mensa member I've met - a propensity to believe they can put one over on everyone else because they're sooooo smart, when generally what they're up to is pretty transparent.

lyssandri · **Posted:** Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:42 am

kimba wrote:

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And Super Genius Sam thinks he's fooling everyone.

A trait I've noticed in every Mensa member I've met - a propensity to believe they can put one over on everyone else because they're sooooo smart, when generally what they're up to is pretty transparent.

When have you seen me do that?

Of course, I'm not an active member - I let my membership lapse because I wasn't really getting anything from being a part of it, but when I first got out of college it seemed like it might be a way to meet some interesting people. Turned out they were "interesting" all right, just not in the way I'd hoped

kimba · **Joined:** Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:24 pm **Posts:** 6732

thorswitch wrote:

kimba wrote:

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And Super Genius Sam thinks he's fooling everyone.

A trait I've noticed in every Mensa member I've met - a propensity to believe they can put one over on everyone else because they're sooooo smart, when generally what they're up to is pretty transparent.

When have you seen me do that?

Of course, I'm not an active member - I let my membership lapse because I wasn't really getting anything from being a part of it, but when I first got out of college it seemed like it might be a way to meet some interesting people. Turned out they were "interesting" all right, just not in the way I'd hoped

Gosh darn it, I almost put a disclaimer in there for not meaning to diss any fogbow mensa-ites. But since you're no longer a member, I rest my case! I think it's possible to be too smart for Mensa, thorrie! :hug:

mimi · **Posted:** Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:46 am

Pat,

When you contact MENSA, would you please ask them how they let such a schmuck in their club? Totally serious question.

I think he got in with some kind of navy test.

ZekeB · **Posted:** Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:12 am

mimi wrote:

Pat,

When you contact MENSA, would you please ask them how they let such a schmuck in their club? Totally serious question.

I think he got in with some kind of navy test.

I checked about joining that organization. It seemed to me they were most interested in collecting a $150 exam fee from me. They weren't about to accept the "estimated IQ" test score I had from my Navy Reserves comissionng exams.

Needless to say, I did not pursue it.

mimi · **Posted:** Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:21 am

ZekeB wrote:

mimi wrote:

Pat,

When you contact MENSA, would you please ask them how they let such a schmuck in their club? Totally serious question.

I think he got in with some kind of navy test.

I checked about joining that organization. It seemed to me they were most interested in collecting a $150 exam fee from me. They weren't about to accept the "estimated IQ" test score I had from my Navy Reserves comissionng exams.

Needless to say, I did not pursue it.

I could swear I read that's how the Hun got in.

And that's what he used in his smear against John Kerry.

Falsehoods unchallenged only fester and grow.

The Hun is a (steady) Drip - Sam Sewell

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