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mimi · **Posted:** Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:22 pm

verbalobe wrote:

How curious:

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“I told him there was no reason why he couldn’t become president,” Hulton recalled.

So either:

Hulton did not in those moments associate the person he was speaking with, with the earlier conversations with Mrs. Ayers about a "foreign student;" OR
Hulton does not know the Constitutional qualifications for the Presidency of the United States.

Or he's a liar. Yeah. I'm gonna go with that one.

Loren · **Joined:** Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:20 pm **Posts:** 3898

verbalobe wrote:

How curious:

Quote:

“I told him there was no reason why he couldn’t become president,” Hulton recalled.

So either:

Hulton did not in those moments associate the person he was speaking with, with the earlier conversations with Mrs. Ayers about a "foreign student;" OR
Hulton does not know the Constitutional qualifications for the Presidency of the United States.

Note, too, that he makes that statement in the Diamond version. The one where he doesn't stop at saying the student was "foreign," but also he "believes she said was from Kenya." (He also notes in other versions, though not in the Diamond one, that the guy on the sidewalk didn't have an accent. Which is something he'd likely only be conscious of if he thought the guy *should* have an accent.)

aarrgghh · **Joined:** Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:05 pm **Posts:** 1254

via freeper creek:

rarestia wrote:

I love these stories. I love that someone is putting Obama in the right light. I HATE that this always has to come from WND, and I HATE that the MSM is so corrupt that actual reporting is no longer standard practice.

semper911 wrote:

That's what I was going to say. As much credibility as Debka back in the day. And the worst part of this story is that no one know about it because no one reads WND.

credibility. wnd's missing link.

RTH10260 · **Posted:** Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:19 pm

Loren » 21.03.2012 22:12 CET wrote:

Jack Cashill complains that initial reports about a French killer mentioned that authorities suspected neo-nazi ties, in part because of the race of his victims. When a man was detained, it was revealed that he had al-Qaeda ties, and was angry about Mideast policy.

Cashill writes: "Although too early to say this with complete confidence, I do not think we will hear any apologies for a "rush to judgment." Going forward, I don't think we will be hearing much about the story at all."

Who, exactly, is Cashill suggesting deserves an apology? Neo-nazis?

Minor correction: at the time (March 22 01:15 CET) I write this post the suspect is not yet been detained, but is still under siege at his home.

bob · **Posted:** Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:00 pm

WND: Immigration records missing for week of Obama's birth

Corsi wrote:

Arpaio's team probing possibility president born abroad

After months of searching, investigators commissioned [Corsi] by Maricopa County, Ariz., Sheriff Joe Arpaio to examine Barack Obama’s eligibility for office found Immigration and Naturalization Service travel records for foreign flights into Hawaii in 1961, only to discover that records for the week of Obama’s birth were missing.

[...]

Specifically, in Record Group A 3573, data records for Aug. 2, 1961 through Aug. 7, 1961, appear to be completely missing, as if the records were removed from the database prior to the microfilm recording.

[...]

Remarkably, all INS records for the week of Obama’s birth, Aug. 1 through Aug. 7, 1961, were missing from the end of Reel 184 and were not discovered anywhere on Reel 185 or any other microfilm reel in the record group.

[...]

In the Feb. 6 letter, Brenda Beasley Kepley, chief of NARA’s Archives 1 Processing Section, acknowledged that passenger records for Record Group A3573, Rolls 184 and 185, covering the period July 28 through Aug. 12, 1961, had been filmed by the INS in August 1961, and the original paper records were not retained.

So, clearly, a conspiracy reaching back 50 years.

mimi · **Posted:** Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:43 pm

bob, that is hilarious. thanks for pointing that out to me. :lol:

Suranis · **Joined:** Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:04 am **Posts:** 5251

bob wrote:

Specifically, in Record Group A 3573, data records for Aug. 2, 1961 through Aug. 7, 1961, appear to be completely missing, as if the records were removed from the database prior to the microfilm recording.

I'm getting really tired of this jerks. Thats a barefaced lie. They include the letter in 2 parts because they know that exceeds the ability of their audiance to click on a link by 2

http://www.wnd.com/files/2012/03/nationalarchives1.pdf

http://www.wnd.com/files/2012/03/nationalarchives2.pdf

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Our staff has examined both the original camera negative aud positive copies of rolls lg4 and185 of A3573 ' The images of the arrival cards at the end of Roll 1 84 are obscured. The last date that is readable is August 1, 196l.

Looking at both the camera negative and positive copies of these rolls, it is apparent that at the time of the filming, multiple cards were fed through a document reeder, became bunched
togelher, and subsequently were shot on top of each other. thus obscurring the images underneath. Apparently, no quality control was done at the time of filming to check for these effors.Consequently, it is difficult to determine whether or not images of cards for the period August 2 through August 7 exist on Roll lg4. If they do, they are unreadable.

Stop me if this conclusion surprises you

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Investigatorsexamining both microfilm rolls determined that the 10 inches of microfilm filled by white blurs and blank space would have been a fraction of the microfilm inches needed had records been intact for all foreign flights arriving in Honolulu Aug. 2 through Aug. 7, 1961.

While a few bunched records are observed at the end of Reel 184, investigators did not find evidence of the volume of INS passenger record cards that would have been present had the records been microfilmed.

The bunching up of several hundred INS passenger card records for the dozens of flights arriving in Hawaii Aug. 2 through Aug. 7, 1961 would have constituted a major collapse in the document feeding mechanism that could not possibly have gone unnoticed by the microfilm technicians making the archive record from the physical paper copies.

MCSO investigatorsconcluded that the NARA explanation of bunched up and overlapping records caused by a defective document feeder was not a credible explanation for what was observed on the two microfilm reels.

Which for one thing is funny as at the end they mane Corsi as the SOLE investigator. Singular. I think they hired the same bunch of investigators they had in hawaii and you can't believe what they found.

Anyway just so we can draw our own conclusions we are shown the entire reel of microfilm

Uh yeah. Real conclusive. He does show a pic of PART of the end though

And by the way, as anyone that ever worked with microfilm knows, 10 inches of Microfilm would contain a huge amount of records. And I think their expertiese in what would cause a major collapse of the document feeding system is probably the same as their expertise in Kerning.

I really want these lying fuckers torn apart on the witness stand.

Loren · **Joined:** Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:20 pm **Posts:** 3898

Suranis wrote:

Note, too, the reliability of Corsi's own research as exemplified in this single document.

He wrote "Roll 185", despite the fact that his own article and the NARA letter both state that it's Roll 184 that's truncated.

And he dates it "November 23." Which may be accurate, I suppose, but Corsi's article states that in "a series of emails beginning Nov. 21, 2011, investigators notified NARA archive reference specialists of the missing dates." Now he obviously didn't start emailing NARA about missing dates before noticing that dates were missing. So either he spent multiple days reviewing microfilm, and only dated the printout two days after he started sending emails (which is poor investigative research), or he got one or both of the dates wrong (which is poor journalism).

(Plus, exactly how is this exhibit supposed to show anything other than Corsi's own handwriting? It's completely illegible at this size. It was even smaller in the e-book. The NARA letter vouches that he's not misrepresenting what it is, but it's rather unhelpful as an illustration.)

Suranis · **Joined:** Sat Nov 20, 2010 8:04 am **Posts:** 5251

Well of course it's illegible. He doesn't want to give the scmucks any actual info in case they realise he is lying out his ass.

mimi · **Posted:** Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:28 pm

ConWebWatch has a quote by WND Pollster, Fritz Wenzell. It's longer than this, so go on over to see the rest.

Quote:

“That no serious action has been taken in Washington to confront this issue paints a sad picture of the impotence or spinelessness of the president’s political opponents and a pathetic portrait of a nation’s citizens who are mostly content to sit idly by while an apparent imposter raids their national treasury and runs their once-great nation into the ground,” Wenzel said.

http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/blog/inde ... -imposter/

Sterngard Friegen · **Posted:** Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:32 pm

That no serious action has been taken by the President's foes demonstrates that they are sane, unlike the birthers who have been suckered by the Barnums at WND.

kimba · **Joined:** Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:24 pm **Posts:** 6634

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Aug. 2 through Aug. 7, 1961

Why do they care about those dates anyway? Prior to 7:24 PM on Aug 4th, baby Barry wasn't born. A 3-5 day hospital stay was the norm in those days. Birfer logic gives me a confused.

If I were a birther, I'd be interested in flights into Seattle and Vancouver in late August, early September when folks tell of Ann visiting. Oh wait... paging Steve Pidgeon.

bob · **Posted:** Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:54 pm

WND: Media blackout on Obama eligibility near-total

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Despite vast public interest, 'mainstream' and 'conservative' press AWOL

When it was announced that talk radio powerhouse “Mancow” Muller would be featured in two one-hour Fox TV specials called “Mancow TV Worldwide,” the radio host specifically requested that WND senior reporter Jerome Corsi be his first guest. Corsi, a two-time No. 1 New York Times bestselling author and Harvard Ph.D., was set to discuss Iran and Israel, as well as globalism.

When Fox was setting up the time for Corsi to be interviewed on Muller’s debut show, he was specifically prohibited by the show’s producers from discussing anything to do with the constitutional eligibility questions still plaguing Obama.

But then [after taping], Corsi’s publicist received a call from the show’s producer saying network executives had viewed the segment and determined that it “didn’t fit,” and thus would be scrubbed.

“It’s clear censorship at Fox,” according to Corsi, who says it’s apparent the network didn’t want an appearance by anyone even linked to the Obama investigation, and claims it confirms the various reports that the mainstream media are censoring reports on Obama’s eligibility.

raicha · **Posted:** Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:38 pm

Funny that Mancow is neither complaining nor corroborating.

verbalobe · **Posted:** Mon Mar 26, 2012 8:41 pm

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Corsi’s publicist received a call from the show’s producer saying network executives had viewed the segment and determined that it “didn’t fit,” and thus would be scrubbed.

At least they actually view something before deciding it's bunkum. Unlike the birthers, who concluded the LFBC was a forgery before seeing it.

neonzx · **Joined:** Tue Mar 10, 2009 9:27 am **Posts:** 4216

bob wrote:

Quote:

But then [after taping], Corsi’s publicist received a call from the show’s producer saying network executives had viewed the segment and determined that it “didn’t fit,” and thus would be scrubbed.

“It’s clear censorship at Fox,” according to Corsi, who says it’s apparent the network didn’t want an appearance by anyone even linked to the Obama investigation, and claims it confirms the various reports that the mainstream media are censoring reports on Obama’s eligibility.

Jimbot is pleased. 8-)

Reality Check · **Posted:** Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:37 am

I am sure someone with a PhD (Corsi) would understand that editorial censorship occurs every day and is practiced by every news organization including his own blog. It is perfectly legal. He is of course just blustering.

verbalobe · **Posted:** Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:46 am

Reality Check wrote:

I am sure someone with a PhD (Corsi) would understand that editorial censorship occurs every day and is practiced by every news organization including his own blog. It is perfectly legal. He is of course just blustering.

Otherwise known as editorial decision-making.

MrBrown · **Joined:** Sat Feb 25, 2012 1:21 pm **Posts:** 411

raicha wrote:

Funny that Mancow is neither complaining nor corroborating.

I find no evidence of a relation between Mancow and WND, or Corsi. The only references I see (from a limited search) on it is the small fry repeating the same WND articles and posts to forums whining about the "media blackout" of the CCP scam. And critters like Alex Jones who are go betweens Mancow and the world of crazy birthers, to whom Mancow stated "Breitbart was Murdered!" to hush up 'descent'.

I think Corsi 'bragging' he was Mancow's "1st choice" to be on shows to be aired on Fox is a lie. When he can like with no proof possible, her chooses to lie. Plus, he and WND are desperate and will say/do anything to whip up ANY talk about their scam. So far its only them doing the talking. Their little boat is pretty much dead in the water and nobody pays them any attention except the defective little tribe of birther inbreeds.
I wonder if waterboarding Mancow would get the truth.

borealis · **Posted:** Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:21 pm

MrBrown wrote:

raicha wrote:

Funny that Mancow is neither complaining nor corroborating.

I find no evidence of a relation between Mancow and WND, or Corsi. The only references I see (from a limited search) on it is the small fry repeating the same WND articles and posts to forums whining about the "media blackout" of the CCP scam. And critters like Alex Jones who are go betweens Mancow and the world of crazy birthers, to whom Mancow stated "Breitbart was Murdered!" to hush up 'descent'.

I think Corsi 'bragging' he was Mancow's "1st choice" to be on shows to be aired on Fox is a lie. When he can like with no proof possible, her chooses to lie. Plus, he and WND are desperate and will say/do anything to whip up ANY talk about their scam. So far its only them doing the talking. Their little boat is pretty much dead in the water and nobody pays them any attention except the defective little tribe of birther inbreeds.
I wonder if waterboarding Mancow would get the truth.

Could it be that Orly and her FMs have become such pests to the point of actively threatening disbarment to Van Susteren, Kelly and Coulter that might have been the final straw with FOX? And maybe Mancow knows to tread gently now that he too doesn't get devoured by these idiots in the process?

Loren · **Joined:** Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:20 pm **Posts:** 3898

Get ready to buy a new irony meter:

Farah - "A lesson in mass deception"

You know it's good when a WND column refers to an Associated Press article as "a propaganda screed thinly veiled as a news story."

aarrgghh · **Joined:** Mon Mar 23, 2009 4:05 pm **Posts:** 1254

filed under "ods on parade" aka "good grief, charlie floyd brown ..." :roll:

Quote:

The Browns: Forgerygate is provoking us to outrage
FLOYD AND MARY BETH BROWN
nj.com

We have found the presidency of Barack Obama provoking us to outrage in unexplainable ways. Does he do this on purpose? We believe he does. He and his team single out Christians and conservatives by provoking them and then mocking their response to the provocations.

First, it is important to understand that one of the favorite tools of Alinskyites is mockery. They love to mock their enemies. In his primer on radical change, Saul Alinksy, the guru of the political movement most closely aligned with Obama, writes in his tactics training chapter, "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counteract ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage."

What better way to mock your enemy than to send messages that infuriate them [sounds like it's working! :-bd

] and then mock the response as "crazy"? They have been doing this throughout the Forgerygate scandal.

[the birfing continues ...]

Foggy · **Posted:** Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:50 am

It's difficult to imagine a grownup who needs to read Alinsky in order to figure out that ridicule pisses people off.

The average American learns that in first or second grade. Why does it take these people so much longer? :mrgreen:

Next thing you know, someone's going to write a follow-up book, and they'll learn the details of Part Two: People who are pissed off make mistakes. That's HOW they "react to your advantage". They mess up.

BFB · **Posted:** Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:16 am

I guess Michael Savage is an Alinskyite, because he says in one of his books that satire and ridicule are legitimate weapons in political battle.

Whoda thunkit?

DaveMuckey · **Posted:** Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:08 pm

Love the new avatars. My wife thinks I look like a monk, though.

Falsehoods unchallenged only fester and grow.

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