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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2011 3:57 pm 
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WND's Facebook page still says "footage of Mara Zebest coming soon".

Maybe Mara didn't do as well as she was s'posed to ... dunno. They've had a lot of time.

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WND's Facebook page still says "footage of Mara Zebest coming soon".

Maybe Mara didn't do as well as she was s'posed to ... dunno. They've had a lot of time.


Any indication of who they were talking to?

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Any indication of who they were talking to?

Nope. In Part 1 you can see the back of two heads that sorta look like an "audience," but even that is just speculation. One lady did ask on the Facebook page who was in attendance, but nobody answered her.

I'm sure the Washington Post had a team assigned, likewise the NY Times, LA Times, Miami Herald ... Image

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You'd think a credible expert might want to stick to matters within her expertise, rather than trotting out a series of tired Birther tropes wholly unrelated to Adobe or computers.


Yes, but no amount of yapping about Adobe creation techniques matters either, as the White House pdf was created on a Mac with Apple Coregraphics technology, not Adobe software.

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That's why I'm waiting to see if Mara Zebest claims it was made with Photoshop.

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While we're waiting, raicha, can you tell us whether Apple Coregraphics technology can be used to create or edit an existing image, or is it just a scan-and-convert-to-PDF technology?

Is it Photoshop for the Mac, or something nobody would choose for creating a forgery?

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While we're waiting, raicha, can you tell us whether Apple Coregraphics technology can be used to create or edit an existing image, or is it just a scan-and-convert-to-PDF technology?

Is it Photoshop for the Mac, or something nobody would choose for creating a forgery?


http://developer.apple.com/library/ios/ ... index.html

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"The Core Graphics framework is a C-based API that is based on the Quartz advanced drawing engine. It provides low-level, lightweight 2D rendering with unmatched output fidelity. You use this framework to handle path-based drawing, transformations, color management, offscreen rendering, patterns, gradients and shadings, image data management, image creation, masking, and PDF document creation, display, and parsing."

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Part 1 of the press conference is on Facebook. Farah introduces Corsi; Corsi explains that President Obama is now caught in the trap set by Corsi in Where's The Birth Certificate?


As he's done on the radio, Corsi refers to his top intelligence source in Hawaii, who he says has been feeding him valuable information from the DoH.

The thing is, I still can't recall any previous instance of Corsi reporting *anything* that could be construed as inside information from Hawaii. He's had the occasional 'private investigator' stuff, but I'm at a loss for any information that could be claimed to have come from a mole.

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Any indication of who they were talking to?

Nope. In Part 1 you can see the back of two heads that sorta look like an "audience,"


At the start of the video clip, Farah is almost drowned out by the sound of plates and silverware shaking, a dishwasher type noise. I think they were squeezed in next to the National Press Club kitchen door. Once they win the lawsuit, they can sit at the adults table.

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Loren wrote:
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Part 1 of the press conference is on Facebook. Farah introduces Corsi; Corsi explains that President Obama is now caught in the trap set by Corsi in Where's The Birth Certificate?


As he's done on the radio, Corsi refers to his top intelligence source in Hawaii, who he says has been feeding him valuable information from the DoH.

The thing is, I still can't recall any previous instance of Corsi reporting *anything* that could be construed as inside information from Hawaii. He's had the occasional 'private investigator' stuff, but I'm at a loss for any information that could be claimed to have come from a mole.


Has to be Tim Adams, if indeed there is anyone at all.

Corsi claims to have all sorts of "stuff" but thus far jack to back any of it up.

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While we're waiting, raicha, can you tell us whether Apple Coregraphics technology can be used to create or edit an existing image, or is it just a scan-and-convert-to-PDF technology?

Is it Photoshop for the Mac, or something nobody would choose for creating a forgery?


http://developer.apple.com/library/ios/ ... index.html

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"The Core Graphics framework is a C-based API that is based on the Quartz advanced drawing engine. It provides low-level, lightweight 2D rendering with unmatched output fidelity. You use this framework to handle path-based drawing, transformations, color management, offscreen rendering, patterns, gradients and shadings, image data management, image creation, masking, and PDF document creation, display, and parsing."


Thanks Pat. Foggy, I haven't used the Apple technology. I don't even own a Mac. But my general computer knowledge (I iz an expert!) is that no one can draw conclusions about documents created in software A by discussing the attributes of software B.

Some of the birthers know this but engage in purposeful misinformation to keep the Paypal button going. Others are just stoopid.

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Part 2 is up, but I can't embed Facebook video.

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Shit! The clip stops as soon as she says "I can show you why" it's a forgery!

Pricktease! [-X

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Out-of-Context Theater Presents:

Corsi: "[Even] If Obama was born on the steps of the White House, his father was Kenyan."

Yes, even if Obama was born on the White House steps, he would still be black. That's true.

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As far as I'm concerned, WND's "reputation" is so crappy that when I recently discovered that a book I'd bought a while back and had really been looking forward to reading was written by a guy who had written an article on a similar topic for WND, I just deleted the book from my reader. I was really disappointed, but know now that I want to check for something like that if I'm looking at getting a book on a "questionable" topic. (He'd also written an article for "Counterpunch" which, I think, is more liberal in orientation, but isn't a site I consider to be much more reputable than WND to begin with - and certainly not reputable enough to outweigh his having written for WND.)

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ImageThis lady can't wait another minute for Part 2.

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THANK YOU WND:))) STANDING HERE WITH YOU AND ALL THE GREAT WE THE PEOPLE LOVE YOUR EFFORTS FOR THE TRUTH JUST LIKE A TRUE AMERICAN:)) GOD BLESS US ALL:)

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I'm not linking to WND because I don't want to give them any hits, but in an article published a couple days ago titled "What if that Birth Certificate is Phony", Farah manages to once again be incredibly misleading (like that's a surprise - not!) He writes:

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It has been more than two months since the White House reluctantly released this digital document. So far the news media have apparently not been able to locate even one Adobe expert to verify its authenticity. Meanwhile, dozens have denounced it as fraudulent. What if they are right?


Gee, Joey, maybe no Adobe expert has verified it's authenticity because the .pdf IS COMPLETELY FUCKING IRRELEVANT TO THE AUTHENTICITY OF THE ACTUAL DOCUMENT - ergo, getting a statement from an Adobe expert would prove exactly NO-FUCKING-THING.

This is also why this latest "Adobe expert" you've unearthed will be just as ignored as everyone else who's tried to discredit the LFBC based on the .pdf - well, ignored by everyone who has a working brain. The idiots you like to soak for as much money as you can will believe anything, which is what you count on (and why you're think the Esquire satire could "hurt" you - you know how gullible your readers are, and you think they might have believed the Esquire story, while people who are smart enough to avoid generating any kind of income for you or your alleged "publication" recognized it for what it was and enjoyed a hearty laugh at the thought.

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Gee, Joey, maybe no Adobe expert has verified it's authenticity because the .pdf IS COMPLETELY FUCKING IRRELEVANT TO THE AUTHENTICITY OF THE ACTUAL DOCUMENT - ergo, getting a statement from an Adobe expert would prove exactly NO-FUCKING-THING.


And/or it could also be, whether asked or not, real Adobe experts have and won't render any opinion as an Adobe expert on a document that was not created using Adobe products.

Just a guess, of course.

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According to the NPC website, the presser was in the Bloomberg Room.

And per their spreadsheet, that room is 20x22, and has a capacity of 24-29 people. In fact, it's the smallest room they have for such an event.

So regardless of what the actual turnout was, they clearly weren't planning on a huge crowd.

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Gee, Joey, maybe no Adobe expert has verified it's authenticity because the .pdf IS COMPLETELY FUCKING IRRELEVANT TO THE AUTHENTICITY OF THE ACTUAL DOCUMENT - ergo, getting a statement from an Adobe expert would prove exactly NO-FUCKING-THING.


And/or it could also be, whether asked or not, real Adobe experts have and won't render any opinion as an Adobe expert on a document that was not created using Adobe products.

Just a guess, of course.


Yeah, that was kind of part of the thought process, but somehow I managed to only included it as a telepathic attachment to the post :D

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I haz a really suspicious.

Mara starts out by saying the very moment she opened the PDF in Illustrator, she knew ... SHE KNEW!! ... that it was a forgery.

And just as she's ready to 'splain everybody WHY she knew that ... the clip ends.

Part 1 is more than 11 minutes. Part 2 is 1:48.

I'm thinking maybe the audience was laughing too hard and it could be heard on the video.

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Foggy wrote:
I haz a really suspicious.

Mara starts out by saying the very moment she opened the PDF in Illustrator, she knew ... SHE KNEW!! ... that it was a forgery.

And just as she's ready to 'splain everybody WHY she knew that ... the clip ends.

Part 1 is more than 11 minutes. Part 2 is 1:48.

I'm thinking maybe the audience was laughing too hard and it could be heard on the video.


Well, at least she didn't know until she opened the file. The "expert" on RC radio last week knew even before that. =))

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Good point. :lol:

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OK, WND posted that Part 3 is on its way.

Can anybody figure out what's on the big monitor to the left of the podium? Distracting as hell.

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It has been more than two months since the White House reluctantly released this digital document. So far the news media have apparently not been able to locate even one Adobe expert to verify its authenticity. Meanwhile, dozens have denounced it as fraudulent. What if they are right?

But worse than that .... (for WMD) ....
what if they are WRONG?

What if the news media haven't even bothered to look for an "Adobe expert" because they actually saw and held the paper document and realize that there is NOTHING an "Adobe expert" can tell them about the PDF that has anything to do with the authenticity of the document?

What if ... WMD has thrown all it's money and effort down a dry hole?

What if ... Jerome Corsi is well known for making up shit about people for political purposes?

So Joey, what if you've really screwed the pooch, and that brown across your upper lip is just a shit mustache? What if?

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