I was PV'd while in the Navy (Positively Vetted) when I was in line for a job at Buckingham Palace. They knew things about me that even I didn't know. I think the bottom line in this entire discussion is this (and it has been repeated again and again and again), if there were ANYTHING, and I mean anything about Obama that would make him unelectable (from non citizenship to kicking puppies in his youth) then Hillary and McCain would have been shouting it from the rooftops, at every single campaign stop, at every single rally, at every single tv appearance. If there was ANYTHING, they would have found it, published it, shouted it, and the bottom line is that Barack Obama would not be president today. If anyone thinks any differently at this point then to be honest they are simply delusional. THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT HAS NOT BEEN ASKED, SCRUTINIZED AND ANSWERED BY THE HILLARY AND MCCAIN CAMPAIGNS THEY CAME UP WITH NOTHING. NOTHING. The guy is teflon. Let's look at this rationally, Hillary is a lawyer, more than half of the congress and senate are lawyers, all of the SCOTUS are lawyers (obviously), lots of the campaign people were lawyers. All of these lawyers (some of them quite good ) cannot find any of the arguments that a) a lawyer from an on-line law school who is not allowed to be admitted or to practice anywhere outside of CA and who is also a dentist and b) a washed up former Asst US Atty who has not had a real client in years seem to think are obvious legal theories, why are the rest of the lawyers in the senate, congress and SCOTUS not seeing this case (or cases) BECAUSE THERE IS NOTHING THERE.

No, I did not. Please point out where it says elected officials are exempt from background checks?

Patricia: Are you searching for this information and asserting if, indeed, one was not done, that he is, therefore, ineligible, or likely ineligible to be president, or just for shits and giggles trying to find out if one was done or not?

If it's the former, I would direct you to the recent answer in the Kerchner case by the DOJ. Whether by background check, or whatever means, they made assertions under oath regarding Obama's birth and citizenship.

If it's the latter...have fun.

Gotta go now...long day out of town tomorrow, have to leave early. Have a good one.

I'm sorry. I posted the link and the heading for the exception first, and then in a subsequent post, I posted the earlier part, which sets the context.

It's probably too much to post here, so go to http://www.intelligence.gov/0-natsecact_1947.shtml#s2, search for TITLE VIII - ACCESS TO CLASSIFIED INFORMATION, and read the text up to TITLE IX. The EXCEPTIONS heading is toward the end of Title VIII.

All I have been doing was trying to get a definitive answer to the following question: Do elected federal government officials get routine background checks?

The widely accepted answer was, "Yes, they do."

I'd say it's highly likely that before Obama was nominated for the House foreign Affairs Committee, the Democrats would have requested a background check.

It'd be nice though to have an authoritative citation to a credible source explaining exactly when and by whom Obama was vetted to show the Birthers.

I've looked for one via Google with no success.

hopefully someoneelse will fare better.

I don't believe it's talked about. This article deals with LOCAL elected officials.:

http://www.seattleweekly.com/2003-04-30 ... -the-fbi/1

That's true.

Did George Washington even have a birth certificate? And where is it now? Would vetting of Washington excluded him from the office. Considering he was in The British Army? Owned questionable property? Or brewed his own liquor?

If that's the same person as this guy, I don't think there's any doubt that he'll know what he's talking about.

Edited for typo

I don't believe you will get anybody to admit that. But it is certainly true.

JFK was the first President born after birth certificates became a legal requirement in 1906. I do know for certain that neither Eisenhower or Truman had them, and its a pretty safe bet that most prior Presidents did not either. So... if that's a requirement, we had about 180 years of usurpers there.

Actually, each state adapted Certificates on their own time frames. Ronald Reagan was born in 1911. Illinois didn't start requiring the issuance of BCs until 1916.

So how do we really know where Ronnie was born?

The interview that Patricia posted with the Head of the FBI in Cleavland is factual. If you want to listen for yourself, here is the link. He stated that the FBI do not routinely do FBI checks on elected officials. However, I do not believe for one minute that the President/VP and other elected officials who have access to top secret information do not have background checks done. And, a FBI agent in this office told me they do. Also stated that other agencies also do background checks on elected officials.

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"none is required" does not equal "is not done".

Just to clarify, the question (at least, I thought the question) was whether candidates for president and vice president automatically get a background check. That's the question I was trying to answer for myself, anyway. I was already aware that elected officials get background checks when the need to impart to them certain types of information. That wasn't the question whose answer I was pursuing. Sorry if I didn't make that clear; I was only addressing the statement many people offer that candidates for those offices are normally given such checks.

You don't think there have been changes since 1947? Like during the McCarthyism era?

Here's an EO from 1995 - (August 4th - President Obama's birthday ):



http://www.fas.org/sgp/clinton/eo12968.html

Sounds to me like Senators are included.

I disagree. It was the blogosphere, not the press, that revealed his association with the New Party. I don't think the other press ever mentioned it, but I might be wrong. I haven't seen anything there about it, though. I think National Review did, but you all probably don't consider that mainstream.

http://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng47.html (see "New Party Update").

I had heard of it. And researched it.







There is more, including references to the evil ACORN at the wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Party_(USA)

What people normally mean by "the press" did not cover it.

That would mean, I assume, that both Obama and Biden passed security clearances when they became members of the U.S. Senate, that W. J. Clinton and GWB did not because neither had ever before held Federal office, that GHWB did because of numerous Federal offices, and that Reagan and Carter did not, for the same reason as Clinton and GWB. Is this evidence of a previously-unknown cabal involving Carter, Reagan, Clinton, and GWB? (Actually, I am quite sure that if RR had been a member of the Communist Party, someone would have spoken with him about that and he would never have run against Ford. Who that someone might have been remains unclear.)

I guess I am screwed then...stupid college friends that imposed a nickname on me.

22 women on my dorm floor. 6 named Lisa. Nicknames needed. Nickname stuck.

God, now I have to through an entire legal process to make sure there is no "confusion"!

None of you realize that I was talking about the whole name and not the first name?

Hopefully, I will be getting the info soon on who exactly does the security clearances on the President, VP, Congressmen/women, etc. I was told they are done but I wanted to know who specifically was responsible for the security clearances. As soon as I get that info, I will post it here.

The FBI in Boston told me that when an "agency" requests a check, the FBI will do it. So, if the CIA wants to brief Pelosi, for example, it would have done a check on her beforehand. It must work the same way for people in Congress who hire staff.