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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 3:34 pm 
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http://obamaballotchallenge.com/o-c-ca-birther-sues-to-block-primary-election-results-guess-who

Sam is touting Orly's case with a quote from and link to the OCregister article.

But, he ends the blog post with this plea for cash:

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Yes, he puts in the disclaimer about Orly having her own "fund raising scheme" (interesting choice of word), but, at first glance, he's trolling for cash on Orly's case.

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Not that important, but for *completeness*...

Docket Update

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19 MINUTES FINALIZED FOR EX PARTE 07/12/2012 09:00:00 AM. 07/13/2012


Unfortunately, no document is available.


Okay, a goof on me. I was about to ask in my best "IANAL" mode: What would be finalized in 19 minutes and be docketed, and what is that! Never mind, going back to the nit-wit section of TFB.


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http://www.scribd.com/doc/99937582/Taitz-v-Obama-et-al-Sup-Ct-CA-2-Emergency-Stay-of-Election-Results-is-a-Necessity

Exhibit 10 clinches it for me. I'm switching to birther. (I'll let you know what kind later).

edit : 10 AND 11 !!! Double the proof, at least.

OMFSM -- when was Obama on a primary at the claimed time? The primary was for a Senate seat iirc :D

Yulias service statement is great: no addresses but phone numbers, like the WH comment line and a website contact form =)) =)) =))

Of course great timing, notifying parties the day before a proposed hearing (yeah - it's a national catastrophic emergency nd Airforce One will take off with after burners red hot =)) )

And then a great numbering scheme for 'zibits, will knock all defendants off the chairs with alpabetic and numerics freely interchanged.

Does any court actually need to have readable 'zibits? #-o ](*,)


Should someone tip Yulia off on the CA legal requirements to act as a paralegal?


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Not that important, but for *completeness*...

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19 MINUTES FINALIZED FOR EX PARTE 07/12/2012 09:00:00 AM. 07/13/2012


Unfortunately, no document is available.

It's available now. It's only 1 page, but it will cost $7.50 :(

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Yeah... they're way expensive.

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That's from yesterday's hearing. We know the outcome. The judge told Orly to give notice to the other parties again and continued the hearing until 2:30 today (right now).


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That's from yesterday's hearing. We know the outcome. The judge told Orly to give notice to the other parties again and continued the hearing until 2:30 today (right now).


Yeah, we know it's from yesterday's hearing. It's just if the docs weren't so expensive there, it woulda been nice to see what all the minutes said, if anything more than what we know they most likely said.

Not worth it at this time, IMO.

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http://obamaballotchallenge.com/o-c-ca-birther-sues-to-block-primary-election-results-guess-who

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Yes, he puts in the disclaimer about Orly having her own "fund raising scheme" (interesting choice of word), but, at first glance, he's trolling for cash on Orly's case.


Notice how he cannot bring himself to mention her name in the headline, lol.

Also, his article on the AZ ballot challenge dismissal was particularly caustic:

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Here we go again. Another Mickey Mouse lawless judicial action, this time in Arizona (again). Of course, Van Irion was sloppy in not naming AZ SOS Ken Bennett specifically. But it was pretty obvious who he was referring to, even to a brain-dead liberal judge. I think that offense is sufficient to warrant discipline or even impeachment of Bolton, don’t you? By the way, have you noticed that Van Irion seems to usually avoid referring to his clients by name?


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Just an IANAL question, if I may, please:
Is it correct to name a court claim as "affidavit"?


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It is not just the law suit that needs to be tossed out rapidly. It is also this freak of a person who pretends to be a civil rights attorney and a Constitutional expert but who, in fact, knows nothing of the Constitution or of the people who gave it birth and keep it alive and strong. I would prefer to see her back in Moldova, but as a second choice, Diablo Canyon would be fine.


I've lost all faith in the California BAR and anyone in a position to stop her from crapping up the legal profession. It's sickening.

One could hope that Obama may chose the Teppernator as counsel in this case, it would be his home territory, selected by Orlena personally. Could we say quicksand ?


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News from the OC courtroom.

DENINED.

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OC Register reporter Martin Wisckol was covering the hearing.

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News from the OC courtroom.
DENINED.
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If there was any drama on the elevator, I'd like to hear about that first please. :P

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Presumably it was another loss to an empty chair. yes/no? :lol:

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Presumably it was another loss to an empty chair. yes/no? :lol:


Unless Bob Bauer and Velamoor showed up.

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Presumably it was another loss to an empty chair. yes/no? :lol:


Unless Bob Bauer and Velamoor showed up.


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Just an IANAL question, if I may, please:
Is it correct to name a court claim as "affidavit"?


Orly may try an election challenge but the affidavit needs to be filed within five days of finishing the canvas or the audit and filed in Sacramento. Orly is not that good at following rules.

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16420. The defendant shall be named in the affidavit.

16421. The affidavit shall be filed in the office of the clerk of the superior court having jurisdiction within five days after either the completion of the official canvass or the completion of any postcanvass risk-limiting audit conducted pursuant to Section 15560 by the county last making the declaration. In the case of an office for which candidates are certified for the ballot by the Secretary of State, or in the case of a statewide ballot measure, the superior court having jurisdiction shall be the Superior Court for the County of Sacramento.


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16300. Irregularity or improper conduct shall annul or set aside a nomination only if it appears that illegal votes in the precinct have been given to the defendant, which if taken from him or her, would reduce the number of his legal votes below the number of votes given
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Too bad, so sad Orlykins! :-({|=

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The OC Register has the story: OC Birther Suit to Block Election Results Denied:

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Laguna Beach attorney Orly Taitz‘s last-minute suit attempting to block California’s primary election results was denied in a relatively brief, half-hour hearing – much of which the judge spent pointing out Taitz’s procedural shortcomings. [snip]

Orange County Superior Court Judge Richard Luesebrink denied Taitz’s request for an emergency postponement of certification of the election results, and said that Taitz’s legal filing “couldn’t be any weaker.” Election results are being certified today.

After the denial, Taitz told the judge, “I know it was decided before I even entered the courtroom.” [snip]

Luesebrink said he didn’t see “any admissible evidence” that hundreds of thousands of votes were illegally cast and denied her request to present witnesses, saying that she failed to provide the required five-days notice. He chastised her twice for not answering his questions and once for talking while he was trying to read her filing.
More significantly, he said that the person who would hypothetically be ordered to block certification of election results – Secretary of State Debra Bowen – was not named by Taitz as a defendant. That meant the court could have no authority to issue an order to her, he said.

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I was in the courthouse today on another matter and popped in to observe the 2:30 hearing. I arrived in department C17 with time to spare, only to learn it had been moved 3 floors up. So I entered the courtroom with the hearing already underway at 2:34. At that point, the Hon. Richard Luesebrink was asking when the primary had taken place and whether Taitz had leave to file the challenge. (Note that California Elections Code requires that all election challenges be presented by affidavit to the Presiding Judge. That did not happen here.)

The judge then ordered any potential witnesses to leave the courtroom while things were discussed. Four people exited to the hallway. Those remaining in the courtroom included the OC Register reporter and a woman later identified as Yulia Yun. Yulia is an attractive blonde woman in her late 20's or early 30's who paid close attention to the proceedings, occasionally shaking her head slightly. Both she and Orly Taitz were attired in lady lawyer black.

Judge Luesebrink jumped around a bit but kept coming back to the unnamed, unserved defendants - most notably the California Secretary of State. As for the named defendants, Taitz indicated that they had been named because "they were the ones on the mailer". (While I was in the courtroom, no one seemed to wonder why the California GOP was not named as a party or otherwise notified of this event. I guess I'm the only one wondering about that.)

The judge wanted to know whether the unnamed but notified defendants had an interest in the case. He asked if "hypothetically" the stay was issued, who would the order go to? Taitz answered, "Debra Bowen, the Secretary of State". The judge then pointed out that if he did order the Secretary of State to stay the certification and the SOS replied "tell the judge to pound sand" that the court had no power to hold the SOS in contempt.

Au contraire argues Orly Taitz. Bowen had received notice at Judge Sanders request. Bowen is the "recipient of the order" and would be in contempt if she ignores the order.

To which the judge replies: "Oh really? What is the authority for that?"

There is much stammering as Taitz struggles to claim that Bowen is under the jurisdiction of the court because she lives in California and is serving in a California state office. She must comply with a court order.

#-o

The judge asks, "so why didn't you name her?" Taitz then, shockingly, refers to the California Elections Code which says that one candidate suing another over eligibility must name the other candidate as a defendant. (Taitz appears to believe that the statute limited the defendants to be sued to those who were candidates, for something, and appearing on the ballot with her. So Obama is a defendant and so are the Republicans finishing ahead of her. I have no idea who the 100 DOES are. I'm pretty sure that the entire primary ballot for all offices combined had less than 100 candidates.)

The judge also notes that he has not had a lot of time to read all of the documents, but that there was no admissible evidence showing 100s or 1000s of illegal voters. Taitz begins talking about the 22,000 page printout she has and how a witness will explain it all. (She has yet to acquire any familiarity with the concepts of evidence, hearsay, authentication, etc.)

The judge then asks if Taitz understands the two issues that must be shown at an ex parte hearing and receives a rambling response regarding Taitz' troubles with Judge Glass and why she waited until this week and why this has to be done today or "my rights will be extinguished".

This judge returns to asking about notice to named and interested parties, including candidate Emken. When Taitz claims that Emken received notice and a fax of the complaint, the judge says "what complaint"? But here Orly Taitz scores a point, and is able to correctly inform the judge that an affidavit, not a complaint, begins an election challenge. She has filed an affidavit.

In answering questions about service, Taitz begins to launch into the whole "Obama was in contempt in Georgia" thing, but is cut off, with the judge telling her it is hard to read while she is talking.

Again, hypothetically, the judge wonders how long she expects all this to take if he grants the stay. Taitz claims she only needs 45 days, as she already has people ready to testify, including this new guy that will testify about the 22,000 pages of invalid voter registrations she has already acquired. The judge then notes (as he apparently did in the first five minutes while I was in the elevator) that witnesses cannot give oral testimony at an ex parte hearing unless there is five days notice the defendants.

That is deadly to her attempts to perfect her "proof of service" by having Yulia Yun in the courtroom to say "yes, I faxed that", or "it was at 9:32 a.m." Yulia can't testify to anything and neither can anyone else cooling their heels in the hallway.

The judge states that Taitz is pro se but still a lawyer. He asks how long and Taitz says "ten years". The judge points out that she is expected to know the rules, especially for something of this magnitude. Taitz claims, "but there are exceptions for exigent circumstances". The judge notes that every ex parte is about exigent circumstances and all lawyers are expected to follow the rules.

He then rules that the application to stay certification of the vote is denied. There is sighing and then there is Taitz muttering "this was decided before I entered this courtroom". The judge asks her to repeat that and she does. Because she is real smart that way. But this judge, on the bench since 1978, doesn't feel like slapping someone upside the head today. Instead, he says: "Judge Sanders gave you a list of defects in your petition and I happen to agree with her. Independently. Court is adjourned."

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