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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:02 pm 
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She says she is doing this for the American people, so aren't we all clients?

Yes. In exactly the same sense each of us is the employer of Barack Obama and entitled to his social security records.


If we are the employer, how come we never get to ride in the fancy plane???

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Wonder how much Ms. Tharp is paying to represent her, or will oarlee be begging funds from the rubes?

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Whatever Taitz is being paid, she will give this case her all.

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Whatever Taitz is being paid, she will give this case her all.


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Press release: another attack on journalist Debbie Tharp

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By Attorney Orly Taitz
29839 Santa Margarita, ste 100
Rancho Santa Margarita, CA 92688
ph. 949-683-5411 fax 949-766-7603
orly.taitz@gmail.com

As was reported earlier journalist Debi Tharp was illegally arrested and imprisoned for peacefully seeking signatures to change a city ordinance in the city of Costa Mesa in Orange county, CA.

Tharp was sent to Santa Ana maximum security prison, denied her asthma medication and humiliated by the guards. She was told to appear in court for a hearing on 07.06.2012 but was not given any paperwork with the name of the judge, courtroom or charges. Attorney Taitz searched records in Orange County Superior Court: both Central division in Santa Ana, where Ms. Tharp was jailed and Harbor division, where she was arrested. There were no records and no hearing on the docket for Debbie Tharp. District Attorney’s office advised the parties that there will not be a hearing until September 26.

Today we found out that a dirty game was played. The District Attorney filed charges under Debbie’s maiden name, even though she has been married for some 20 years, has 3 grown children, her oldest one being 19, and she did not use her maiden name Debbie Spillman for some 20 years. Luckily all of this was clarified today with the judge. However, if left unchecked, the establishment would have arrested journalist Debbie Tharp for the second time for failure to appear in court and for contempt of court. 10 minutes after the issue was clarified to the judge, in a parallel hearing a different judge granted Debbie and a political PAC she is affiliated with a ruling, granting them an extension to gather signatures, as they were prevented to do so before.

Noteworthy, is the fact that when Barack Obama did not show up in court in Atlanta, GA, when he was subpoenaed by attorney Taitz to appear in Farrar et al v Obama, judge Michael Malihi did not issue a warrant for Obama’s arrest and did not even issue a contempt of corrupt, even though Obama was supposed to appear and provide his certified identification papers, which of course he does not have. Judge Malihi actually rewarded Obama for contempt of court and allowed him on the ballot with all forged IDs.

Today abuses by the establishment and courts in the U.S. exceed what was seen during the times of Stalin in the Soviet Union. Further development in the case will be provided in future press releases.

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Taitz folds Tharp into her "eligibility challenge" cases. That's a great way to represent a client facing criminal charges.

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judge Michael Malihi did not issue a warrant for Obama’s arrest and did not even issue a contempt of corrupt,

Yulia must be too busy on the Taitz v. Sebelius case to proof Orly's press releases.

Why do I have this silly notion that Orly thinks criminal law is the same as civil litigation?

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If she could give up the birfer nonsense, she might be able to get some traction in the press for this and her ACA case, but for her, birfing is an obsession and an addiction. It controls her. It infects everything she does.

Birfing is to Orly what garbage is to a hoarder and what meth is to a tweaker.


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Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Taitz folds Tharp into her "eligibility challenge" cases. That's a great way to represent a client facing criminal charges.


Or a great way finally to commit legal malpractice against a client in a position to be harmed in a way that would give someone standing to file a bar complaint as a client.

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Taitz folds Tharp into her "eligibility challenge" cases. That's a great way to represent a client facing criminal charges.


Or a great way finally to commit legal malpractice against a client in a position to be harmed in a way that would give someone standing to file a bar complaint as a client.

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Only if that person chose to use their standing, which is probably unlikely.

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Tharp was sent to Santa Ana maximum security prison, denied her asthma medication and humiliated by the guards


Maximum security prison after an arrest on a trespassing charge? I think I'd feel a tad uncomfortable with a "criminal defense attorney" who cannot distinguish between a jail and a prison. Just sayin'. ;;)

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Yulia must be too busy ...


On another forum I've taken to calling her "perilegal".

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Is that like perianal - a pain close to the ass.

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Orange County Superior Court website regarding Deborah Spillman, case12HM07770

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One count found.1
Seq S/A Violation Date Section Statute OL Violation Plea Plea Date Disposition Dispo Date
1 0 06/07/2012 602(m) PC M Trespass (driving vehicle)


Seems to be combining a couple of things. Penal Code 602:

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(m) Entering and occupying real property or structures of any kind
without the consent of the owner, the owner's agent, or the person
in lawful possession.
(n) Driving any vehicle, as defined in Section 670 of the Vehicle
Code, upon real property belonging to, or lawfully occupied by,
another and known not to be open to the general public, without the
consent of the owner, the owner's agent, or the person in lawful
possession. This subdivision shall not apply to any person described
in Section 22350 of the Business and Professions Code who is making a
lawful service of process, provided that upon exiting the vehicle,
the person proceeds immediately to attempt the service of process,
and leaves immediately upon completing the service of process or upon
the request of the owner, the owner's agent, or the person in lawful
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Tharp was sent to Santa Ana maximum security prison, denied her asthma medication and humiliated by the guards


Maximum security prison after an arrest on a trespassing charge? I think I'd feel a tad uncomfortable with a "criminal defense attorney" who cannot distinguish between a jail and a prison. Just sayin'. ;;)


Yup. She was held in the County womens detention center. We only have the one. So it is maximum, minimum, and all things in between.

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Yup. She was held in the County womens detention center. We only have the one. So it is maximum, minimum, and all things in between.


Wow. I see it referred to as a "jail" on government sites such as: http://egov.ocgov.com/ocgov/Sheriff-Cor ... ng%20Hours

In my experience, jails are where folks are taken after they are arrested, or perhaps where they serve short term (a year or less) sentences, while prisons are for those who have been convicted of a crime involving lengthier terms. Is that different in CA?

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Wow. I see it referred to as a "jail" on government sites such as: http://egov.ocgov.com/ocgov/Sheriff-Cor ... ng%20Hours

In my experience, jails are where folks are taken after they are arrested, or perhaps where they serve short term (a year or less) sentences, while prisons are for those who have been convicted of a crime involving lengthier terms. Is that different in CA?


My previous "yup" was to your comment that Tharp ought to get a lawyer that can tell the difference. It is a jail, not a prison, and it is the only place where women in this County are taken after they are arrested if they are to be held more than a few hours.

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In my experience, jails are where folks are taken after they are arrested, or perhaps where they serve short term (a year or less) sentences, while prisons are for those who have been convicted of a crime involving lengthier terms. Is that different in CA?


It isn't universal, but jails are often used for pretrial detention, and sometimes also used for people serving sentences less than a year. I have heard "prison" used as a name or title for institutions for people serving more than a year. Sometimes, they do things like sentence someone to 364 days to keep them in the local jail closer to their family, or barely over a year, to qualify them for good time served. This kind of thing can be a useful bargaining chip for plea negotiations.

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It is a jail, not a prison, and it is the only place where women in this County are taken after they are arrested if they are to be held more than a few hours.
Been there more often than I'd like, and it DOES have good security. Can't remember anybody ever escaping what we all called "The Main".

If O'rly manages to represent her at trial and she gets a sentence of any length, she'll prob'ly be sent to The Farm.

O'rly will like that, though. The Farm is minimum security. It's pretty easy to escape the Farm. :-bd

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If O'rly manages to represent her at trial and she gets a sentence of any length, she'll prob'ly be sent to The Farm.

O'rly will like that, though. The Farm is minimum security. It's pretty easy to escape the Farm. :-bd

But what will /s/ and /s/ do when O'rly is in jail on The Farm?

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If O'rly manages to represent her at trial and she gets a sentence of any length, she'll prob'ly be sent to The Farm.

O'rly will like that, though. The Farm is minimum security. It's pretty easy to escape the Farm. :-bd


I know Orly will probably get a lengthy sentence, but what about her client?

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