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I thought perhaps it would be a good idea to start a break out thread where we could keep Orly's ethical violations all in one spot.

We all know that's she's threatened criminal prosecution in order to obtain an advantage in a civil matter. On numerous occasions. But, since CA has no functioning State Bar Disciplinary Committee, she has never been sanctioned, and so she keeps doing it.

Now, in the otherwise despised State of Texas, at least our State Bar functions (even if it's not as quickly or thoroughly as it always should). I came across this the other day while reading the glossy of the Texas Bar Journal:

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On Aug. 21, 2012, Joseph G. Garza [#07734500], 68, of Victoria, accepted a public reprimand. The District 11-3 Grievance Committee found Garza threatened a person with criminal charges solely to gain an advantage in a civil matter.

Garza violated Rule 4.04(b)(1) and was ordered to pay $700 in attorney’s fees and direct expenses.


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Why bother, she has the same chance of getting disbarred as mittwitt has of starting at QB for Chicago Cardinals.


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FWIW, I think this thread is an excellent idea. Like everyone else, I've long since become jaded about the prospects of the CA Bar suddenly leaping into action. Nevertheless, I do believe that Teflon Orly will eventually find herself on the wrong side of a disciplinary action -- if not in California, then somewhere else. If that ever happens, it could prove very useful to have a documented history or episodes ready made for "leaking" to whoever is driving the process.

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FWIW, I think this thread is an excellent idea. Like everyone else, I've long since become jaded about the prospects of the CA Bar suddenly leaping into action. Nevertheless, I do believe that Teflon Orly will eventually find herself on the wrong side of a disciplinary action -- if not in California, then somewhere else. If that ever happens, it could prove very useful to have a documented history or episodes ready made for "leaking" to whoever is driving the process.


^^^^^ I agree. Orly has been at this for more than 4 years now. Her violations are so numerous that if we don't keep a list, we will lose track of the violations.

A few violations that I remember:

1) "Asking" that her FM call every court clerk and Judge's office in the country.
2) "Asking" her FM to write to Judges directly in the hopes of influencing decisions.
3) Encouraging public protests while her cases are being heard before a Judge.
4) Trying to sue Judge Land and demanding information about his personal property and finances. IIRC, she also demanded his SS#.
5) Publishing SS#s all over the intertube an in court pleadings for 4+ years.
6) Violating client confidentiality.
7) Adding defense lawyers to lawsuits.

There are so many more.

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Piffle wrote:
FWIW, I think this thread is an excellent idea. Like everyone else, I've long since become jaded about the prospects of the CA Bar suddenly leaping into action. Nevertheless, I do believe that Teflon Orly will eventually find herself on the wrong side of a disciplinary action -- if not in California, then somewhere else. If that ever happens, it could prove very useful to have a documented history or episodes ready made for "leaking" to whoever is driving the process.


^^^^^ I agree. Orly has been at this for more than 4 years now. Her violations are so numerous that if we don't keep a list, we will lose track of the violations.

A few violations that I remember:

1) "Asking" that her FM call every court clerk and Judge's office in the country and publishing the e-mails and phone numbers of clerks and judges' offices.
2) "Asking" her FM to write to Judges directly in the hopes of influencing decisions and publishing the e-mails and phone numbers of judges.
3) Encouraging public protests while her cases are being heard before a Judge.
4) Trying to sue Judge Land and demanding information about his personal property and finances. IIRC, she also demanded his SS#.
5) Publishing SS#s all over the intertube an in court pleadings for 4+ years.
6) Violating client confidentiality.
7) Adding defense lawyers to lawsuits.
8) Smearing judges, even when she has cases still in progress before them.

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  • Abandoning clients.
  • Bringing suit for clients who did not give her permission to do so.
  • Routinely misrepresenting what exhibits attached to her pleadings say.
  • Constantly misrepresenting law and fact in court proceedings.
  • Exhorting the armed overthrow of the United States government.
  • Demeaning judges and making false statements about why judges decided as they did.
  • Bringing the legal profession into disrepute.
  • Taking on cases in areas where she did not have any competence and where she did not attempt to become competent.
  • Defaming opposing counsel and their clients without legal justification.
  • Practicing law with a disbarred attorney.
  • Persistently failing to serve process on defendants.
  • Abusing process by serving documents not permitted by court rules or the law.
  • Entering into sham agreements with her clients to represent them in states where she was or would be admitted and as "co-plaintiff" in other states.
  • Practicing law in courts and jurisdictions where she was not admitted to do so.
  • Entering into engagements with clients and requiring them to waive any claims they might have against her for malpractice prospectively.

This, plus what's above, is only a partial list.

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One of my pet peeves, always overlooked I guess because U.S. Supreme Court justices are such high-profile public figures:

Intentionally making personal, ex parte contacts and communications with judges while her matters are actively pending before them. For God's sake she confronted Chief Justice Roberts in person on video for the specific, express purpose of demanding he act on a court filing she was trying to get before him:


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This list doesn't include her conduct relating to her "foundation" or relating to campaign laws and the reporting requirements of such laws.

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Sterngard Friegen wrote:

This, plus what's above, is only a partial list.


Hmmm. Sounds like someone's given this a little thought!

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It seems to me that the usefulness of this thread would depend on its documentation of specifics: dates, details and reference to pleadings, statements and/or website location.

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I believe what this thread should do is, perhaps, generate a block of text concerning Orly's patterns of illegal behavior. For example, in a case where she is already facing sanctions, Orly does this. Again.

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ORDER directing Clerk of Court to restrict public access to document 85 and its attachments; personal identifiers contained therein. Plaintiffs are directed to redact the documents pursuant to FRCP 5.2 and refile. Plaintiffs are warned to redact any document filed in the future pursuant to FRCP 5.2 BEFORE filing the pleading or document. Plaintiffs are warned that their continued filing of documents containing personal identifiers will result in the imposition of sanctions. Signed by Magistrate Judge Linda R. Anderson on 12/13/2012. (ACF)


I think the document should have sections for particular kinds of misconduct, like not redacting, and lists of all the occasions in which she has broken this rule, as well as all the times she has been told by the court to quit violating this rule.

It should be easy to establish that Orly's lawbreaking is deliberate, not the inadvertent act of an incompetent lunatic. While Orly Taitz is, in fact, an incompetent lunatic, her lawbreaking is not the result solely of incompetence but malice and a deliberate intent to break the law.

The text should be of the quality of legal writing, with citations and exhibits if possible, so that the text itself can simply be dropped in a block into the proper section of a motion for sanctions, and the exhibits should be sufficient that a competent attorney could easily obtain certified copies of them.

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One of my pet peeves, always overlooked I guess because U.S. Supreme Court justices are such high-profile public figures:

Intentionally making personal, ex parte contacts and communications with judges while her matters are actively pending before them. For God's sake she confronted Chief Justice Roberts in person on video for the specific, express purpose of demanding he act on a court filing she was trying to get before him:


She do the same thing with Scalia ... she attended a book signing in LA and confronted him during a Q & A and again when he was signing her book.

Earlier this week, Orly requested that her FM to start stalking Judges and to confront those Judges in public.

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Comment from a supporter regarding the upcoming submission to Justice Kennedy. Honestly, with the level of lawlessness and corruption in courts, i don’t believe Kennedy will ever see the pleadings, probably some bought and paid for law level clerk with stamp “denied”within a day or two. That is why we need to confront judges in public and demand answers from them in public.
Posted on | December 9, 2012 | 3 Comments


:evil: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=364438 :evil:


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Please, check upcoming meetings with the Supreme court justices and other high ranking officials. We have to confront them in public and demand an answer re Obama’s use of a forged BC and a stolen CT SSN ID.
Posted on | May 17, 2011 | 2 Comments


:evil: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=21860 :evil:


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from supporter Jocelyn. I have no way of confirming or denying any of the allegations in the article. The only thing I can confirm is that I indeed confronted Justice Roberts during a meeting at the school of law of the university of Idaho. Today Alito is speaking at the school of law in HI. Can someone ask him, why didn’t he grant my application for stay and why isn’t the Supreme Court dealing with Obama’s illegitimacy to presidency

Posted on | January 26, 2011 | 1 Comment


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Can someone question Alito tomorrow, did he ever see my pleading? other cases on eligibility? why didn’t they proceed with those cases? what was the vote? Are they being threatened by the regime?

Posted on | January 25, 2011 | 2 Comments


:evil: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=18336 :evil:


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Again this misleading MSNBC report is being published. What now? and what you can do.

Posted on | November 22, 2010 | No Comments


snip.....

Later, when I saw Justice Scalia at a book signing, he knew nothing about my case, he did not know the case even existed, even though it was reported that my case was discussed in conference on January23rd, 2009 and all 9 justices decided not to proceed.

snip.....

At this time, please demand a Congressional hearing of the eligibility issue and an explanation, why Judge Carter in CA refused to recuse himself, after I pointed out that his attorney-law clerk Siddharth Velamoor is an employee of Perkis Coie law firm, a defense firm for Obama, where Robert Bauer, White house Counsel is a senior partner. This is the most flagrant example of lack of impatiality and undue influence on the federal judge deciding a case of eligibility of the President.

Please, report actions of Judge Clay D. Land, who attacked me and my clients with a clear goal od silencing me and intimidating others.

Congress has power to hold Judicial hearings, to impeach and remove from the bench Federal Judges of any federal court. Maybe, a Congressional hearing will shed light on the eligibility issue and will make the Judiciary more transparent. It is up to you. If you write to your Congressmen, please, send your letters by certified mail and write my address on the back of the green certified mail card. This way I will have a record of the names of the the Congressmen and Senators, who got this information. If they don’t act, we will hold them accountable come next election.


:evil: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=15779 :evil:


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All the patriots of CA should confront Pelosi, Dec 4, 4pm, John Wayne airport, Hilton

Posted on | November 28, 2009 | 7 Comments



From Rhodes v MacDonald but never docketed?

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Motion -request for verification of signature of Justice Thomas was submitted to Chief Justice Roberts

Posted on | July 20, 2010 | 30 Comments


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16. On March 9, 2009 Justice Scalia was giving a lecture and signing his books in Los Angeles.

17. Taitz attended the lecture, asked Justice Scalia questions during Q and A and later at the book signing asked Justice Scalia, why the case was not heard in oral argument, why wasn’t it heard on the merits. To her amazement, Justice Scalia had no clue the case even existed, he could not remember one word, one thing about the case. When Taitz asked Justice Scalia about other similar cases, he could not remember a thing either, even though he was supposedly the Justice, who referred some of those cases to the conference in the first place, which means that he supposedly read those cases more than once.


:evil: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=12440

http://www.scribd.com/doc/34041283/ORLY ... -SANCTIONS


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Please read these horrifying report from the International criminal bar. If we don’t stand up to lawlessness in this nation, we will be the next Rwanda.

Posted on | July 19, 2010 | 5 Comments

Dear Laura,

please read the following update of my prior filing with the international criminal bar

please forward it to the members of the bar and UN Security Council

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11. On March 9 of 2009 Ttaitz saw Supreme Court Justice Scalia at a book signing in Los Angeles. when Taitz asked Scalia, why wasn’t the stay granted, Scalia had no knowledge that the case even existed, even though according to the letter Taitz received from the Supreme Court all 9 Justices have reviewed her case in the conference on Jnauary 23, 2009 and decided not to proceed with the Oral argument.

12. On March 13, 2009 Taitz attended a lecture given by the Chief Justice Roberts at the university of Moscow Idaho. Taitz addressed Roberts (available on You-tube Attorney Orly Taitz addresses Chief Justice Roberts) . Taitz demanded an answer in regards to the fact that her case Lightfoot v Bowen was supposedly heard by all the justices, but that Justice Scalia didn’t even know that the case existed. Roberts responded that he will read the papers Taitz had with her. Taitz gave Roberts motion for reconsideration in Lightfoot v Bowen and another case Easterling v Obama. For over a year Taitz did not receive any response from Roberts.


:evil: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=12426 :evil:

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Should this be included? :evil: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=364956 :evil:

BREAKING NEWS! COMMISSIONER OF SOCIAL SECURITY DEFAULTS IN A RICO CASE INVOLVING OBAMA’S USE OF A STOLEN CT SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER REDACTED
Posted on | December 11, 2012
NOTICE OF DEFAULT BY DEFENDANT MICHAEL ASTRUE, COMMISSIONER OF SOCIAL SECURITY
MOTION FOR DEFAULT JUDGMENT AND POST DEFAULT DISCOVERY

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11. Without a motion to compel Taitz would not be able to obtain necessary information. Additionally, now there is evidence of defendants and their accomplices spoliating, destroying evidence.Recently some of the RICO co-conspirators took down a website “Fogbow” with a clear intent to destroy evidence. Similarly, Affidavits of Investigator Zullo (Exhibit 4) and Expert Irey (Exhibit 5 ) show a pattern of obstruction of Justice, evasion of law enforcement, tampering with evidence.


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A Legal Lohengrin wrote:
I believe what this thread should do is, perhaps, generate a block of text concerning Orly's patterns of illegal behavior. For example, in a case where she is already facing sanctions, Orly does this. Again.

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ORDER directing Clerk of Court to restrict public access to document 85 and its attachments; personal identifiers contained therein. Plaintiffs are directed to redact the documents pursuant to FRCP 5.2 and refile. Plaintiffs are warned to redact any document filed in the future pursuant to FRCP 5.2 BEFORE filing the pleading or document. Plaintiffs are warned that their continued filing of documents containing personal identifiers will result in the imposition of sanctions. Signed by Magistrate Judge Linda R. Anderson on 12/13/2012. (ACF)


I think the document should have sections for particular kinds of misconduct, like not redacting, and lists of all the occasions in which she has broken this rule, as well as all the times she has been told by the court to quit violating this rule.

It should be easy to establish that Orly's lawbreaking is deliberate, not the inadvertent act of an incompetent lunatic. While Orly Taitz is, in fact, an incompetent lunatic, her lawbreaking is not the result solely of incompetence but malice and a deliberate intent to break the law.

The text should be of the quality of legal writing, with citations and exhibits if possible, so that the text itself can simply be dropped in a block into the proper section of a motion for sanctions, and the exhibits should be sufficient that a competent attorney could easily obtain certified copies of them.

BINGO! Loh's proposition is very close to what I had in mind and I'd been mulling over an example to post for discussion.

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If only I weren't deep in the process of transitioning my sister to hospice care this week, I'd attempt it. But, sigh, I just can't find an an uninterrupted block of time to do it justice.

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I'm so sorry about your sister.

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I'm sorry about your sister, Piffle!! :hug:

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If a few of our lawyers would like to put together a list of cases that we should evaluate, a gang of volunteers could choose threads from the list and then scan those threads for ethical violations. I have a break from school and would have time to help with such a project; I could scan one of the larger lawsuit threads. Our expert legal team has always done a great job of pointing out Orly's unethical behavior, which would make this project less daunting for volunteers. Once the relevant threads are searched, those with legal superpowers can review the relevant motions per violation.

Would this be an adequate method for linking the dates of violations with the subject matter? Threads would also mention related ethical violations stemming from Orly's webpage.

The Orly's Poopies thread should be scanned.

Thoughts? Is there a better method?

For Piffle = :hug:

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I think you're on the right road here.




























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Honestly, if we were to document every ethical violation by Orly, it should be part of the Home Page Project or the Wiki, not part of the forum. The forum is for informal discussions and bringing the news to each other. If we're going to provide a resource in a format that's useful to anyone but ourselves, we need to take a more formal approach.

YMMV, of course.

Here's a document (PDF) which did a really good job of documenting her ethical transgressions, prepared by some Fogbow members.

... it was written in April 2009. It was 30 pages long.

... if that kind of approach was taken today, the thing would be hundreds and hundreds of pages in length.

... but that's the only kind of approach that has any real value. And even that did not spur the California State Bar (hahahaha) to action.

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I'm sorry about your sister, Piffle!! :hug:


Yes me too Piffle :cry: :hug:

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I'm also very sad to hear about your sister, Piffle. Take care of her, and don't worry about us. :hug:

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Just think of all the follow up entries since April 2009.

The harassment of law clerks since then would take up another ten pages.


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Oh, goodie! We got Part 1 finished already! Thanks for bringing it back, Foogy! :lol:

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A Legal Lohengrin wrote:
I believe what this thread should do is, perhaps, generate a block of text concerning Orly's patterns of illegal behavior. For example, in a case where she is already facing sanctions, Orly does this. Again.

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ORDER directing Clerk of Court to restrict public access to document 85 and its attachments; personal identifiers contained therein. Plaintiffs are directed to redact the documents pursuant to FRCP 5.2 and refile. Plaintiffs are warned to redact any document filed in the future pursuant to FRCP 5.2 BEFORE filing the pleading or document. Plaintiffs are warned that their continued filing of documents containing personal identifiers will result in the imposition of sanctions. Signed by Magistrate Judge Linda R. Anderson on 12/13/2012. (ACF)


I think the document should have sections for particular kinds of misconduct, like not redacting, and lists of all the occasions in which she has broken this rule, as well as all the times she has been told by the court to quit violating this rule.

It should be easy to establish that Orly's lawbreaking is deliberate, not the inadvertent act of an incompetent lunatic. While Orly Taitz is, in fact, an incompetent lunatic, her lawbreaking is not the result solely of incompetence but malice and a deliberate intent to break the law.

The text should be of the quality of legal writing, with citations and exhibits if possible, so that the text itself can simply be dropped in a block into the proper section of a motion for sanctions, and the exhibits should be sufficient that a competent attorney could easily obtain certified copies of them.


This is precisely what I had in mind. There have been hundreds of violations of the Rules of Professional Conduct by Taitz. And, since she continues to "litigate", there will be more. I thought it would be a good idea to have a placeholder thread to specifically enumerate them, as they occur. Right now, they are buried in threads sometimes hundreds of pages long on a particular case, or the catchall Poopies thread. This was not intended to be a White Paper that is due next week, but rather a place to put actual ethical violations. For lawyers and laymen alike, the current California Rules Of Professional Conduct can be found here. It would be preferable if folks would box in the offensive writing or action, and then cite to a particular rule.

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I think I'll give the redacting thing a shot. It is perhaps not as serious as some of her ethical violations, but it is clearly willful and a deliberate violation of the rules. Taken over the years she has done it, it is clearly lawless action by someone with a criminal mentality.

I will focus, though, on the Model Rules. Most of Orly's misconduct is not in California, and California appears not to care in the least about the constant flouting of their alleged rules.

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I think I'll give the redacting thing a shot. It is perhaps not as serious as some of her ethical violations, but it is clearly willful and a deliberate violation of the rules. Taken over the years she has done it, it is clearly lawless action by someone with a criminal mentality.

I will focus, though, on the Model Rules. Most of Orly's misconduct is not in California, and California appears not to care in the least about the constant flouting of their alleged rules.


That's fine too. I gave the link so folks would have a handy citation guide.

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