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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:56 pm 
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The dead lady is listed as having donated $2500 and as having been disbursed "in-kind-advertising" valued at $2500. WTF is an in-kind disbursement?


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The dead lady is listed as having donated $2500 and as having been disbursed "in-kind-advertising" valued at $2500. WTF is an in-kind disbursement?


Remember when OrLena had explosive news that someone was running an ad for her in the Washington Times. At one point it was posted on the poison website, and we all chattered here about how helpful a Washington DC ad would be for a birther queen in a California race. That is what it could easily be. The value of that ad has to be reported as an in-kind contribution, if it was "coordinated" with the campaign such as it was. A political ad cannot be run without the identification of who is running it -- although a lot of the time, the group is well disguised behind an altruistic-sounding, meaningless name. If we found the ad, we might be able to figure out if it's what this money represents.

But, really, the FEC oughta be told that the woman is dead. That is in a whole different category of bad, than merely filing late.


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I don't get it, when I worked in non-profits an in-kind donation was a non-monetary donation valued at X.

If these three paid for the advertising by contributing money to Orly it was a cash contribution not in-kind. But whether they paid for advertising by contributing the needed funds to Orly directly or paid the advertiser, just how does one contribute X and then get paid the same exact amount? Smells more like a loan than a donation.

Schedule A: Itemized ReceiptsSchedule B: Itemized Disbursements
Sylvia Doucette-LaidenSylvia Doucette-Laiden
1732 W. School Street1732 W. School Street
Chicago, ILChicago, IL
Occupation: writer, self-employed
Date of Receipt: 05/27/2012Date of Disbursement: 05/27/2012
Amount: $2500.00, In-kind AdvertisingAmount: $2500.00
Purpose of Disbursement:In-kind Advertising


Kimball LaidenKimball Laiden
1732 W. School Street1732 W. School Street
Chicago, ILChicago, IL
Occupation: psychiatrist, self-employed
Date of Receipt: 05/27/2012Date of Disbursement: 05/27/2012
Amount: $2500.00, In-kind AdvertisingAmount: $2500.00
Purpose of Disbursement:In-kind Advertising


Jeffrey D. SchmidtJeffrey D. Schmidt
4114 N Leavitt Street4114 N Leavitt Street
Chicago, ILChicago, IL
Occupation: lawyer, self-employed
Date of Receipt: 05/27/2012Date of Disbursement: 05/27/2012
Amount: $2500.00, In-kind AdvertisingAmount: $2500.00
Purpose of Disbursement:In-kind Advertising


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Aren't "disbursement" and "donation" mutully exclusive?


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I see she repaid herself the $280000 loan.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:32 am 
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She mentioned the three people who gave these donations in a post on her blog on June 6.
:evil: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=98324 :evil:

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THANK YOU MR. AND MRS. LADIAN AND MR. SCHMIDT FOR YOUR GENEROUS COMBINED DONATION TO KFI OF $7,500 TO PROMOTE MY CANDIDACY. UNFORTUNATELY, SLADEROUS REMARKS BY HOST JOHN KOBYLT DESTROYED ALL VALUE IN THESE DONATIONS AND CAUSED DAMAGE


If these people bought airtime from the radio station for Orly, then they made an in-kind contribution to her campaign. However, if she turned around and paid them the value of the air time, then they didn't really make a donation to her campaign, since she reimbursed them. Effectively, she purchased radio air time through them. My guess is that the FEC frowns on this type of transaction since it can be used to obscure a money trail. It's also possible that these entries are just typical inexplicable Orly Taitz fuck ups to which logic can't really be applied. Either way, I hope it raises some eyebrows at the FEC.

And then there's the additional problem that Sylvia Doucette-Ladien apparently died in February, months before 5/27/12, the date on which Orly claims she both received the in-kind contribution from and disbursed the money to the late Mrs. Doucette-Ladien. [-X


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AnitaMaria wrote:
She mentioned the three people who gave these donations in a post on her blog on June 6.
:evil: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=98324 :evil:

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THANK YOU MR. AND MRS. LADIAN AND MR. SCHMIDT FOR YOUR GENEROUS COMBINED DONATION TO KFI OF $7,500 TO PROMOTE MY CANDIDACY. UNFORTUNATELY, SLADEROUS REMARKS BY HOST JOHN KOBYLT DESTROYED ALL VALUE IN THESE DONATIONS AND CAUSED DAMAGE


If these people bought airtime from the radio station for Orly, then they made an in-kind contribution to her campaign. However, if she turned around and paid them the value of the air time, then they didn't really make a donation to her campaign, since she reimbursed them. Effectively, she purchased radio air time through them. My guess is that the FEC frowns on this type of transaction since it can be used to obscure a money trail. It's also possible that these entries are just typical inexplicable Orly Taitz fuck ups to which logic can't really be applied. Either way, I hope it raises some eyebrows at the FEC.

And then there's the additional problem that Sylvia Doucette-Ladien apparently died in February, months before 5/27/12, the date on which Orly claims she both received the in-kind contribution from and disbursed the money to the late Mrs. Doucette-Ladien. [-X


Either way, someone might end up inquiring about it with the FEC. One never knows, do one?


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Orly has finally submitted her July FEC report.

The dead lady in Chicago who donated $2500 is listed as having received a disbursement valued at $2500 for "in-kind-advertising." :-?



Even more amazing is that lady's daughter, one Kimball Ladien, MD, is a PSYCHIATRIST! :shock: =)) , who also donated $2500 "in kind".

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Seems to me that if these 3 people (alive or dead) put up the money to pay for the KFI ads, then the disbursement side of the ledger should say "KFI Radio Ads".

But whadda I know.

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She also repaid herself for her vanity loan of $280,000

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AnitaMaria wrote:
Orly has finally submitted her July FEC report.

The dead lady in Chicago who donated $2500 is listed as having received a disbursement valued at $2500 for "in-kind-advertising." :-?



Even more amazing is that lady's daughter, one Kimball Ladien, MD, is a PSYCHIATRIST! :shock: =)) , who also donated $2500 "in kind".


No TF, that's not a daughter, but the primary nutcake. He's the husband who once ran for Mayor of Chicago as the Anti-Cult Candidate. (!)

http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/the-anti-cult-candidateprecious-wax-drippings/Content?oid=886721

http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/were-stumped/Content?oid=886778

Edit: And surprise, it's Ladien, no Laiden. You'd think that with all that money, Orly mighta spelled his name right.


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No TF, that's not a daughter, but the primary nutcake. He's the husband who once ran for Mayor of Chicago as the Anti-Cult Candidate. (!)

http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/the-anti-cult-candidateprecious-wax-drippings/Content?oid=886721

http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/were-stumped/Content?oid=886778

Edit: And surprise, it's Ladien, no Laiden. You'd think that with all that money, Orly mighta spelled his name right.


Ahhh, tres interesant. I would suggest that the in kind service he should have given was a script for some thorazine, but it looks like this guy shouldn't be licensed either. Maybe his problems started when his mom named him "Kimball". :-k

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Latest investigation shows at least 723,620 invalid voter registrations in CA, final number of invalid voter registrations is expected to exceed a million

PRESS RELEASE by the office of attorney Orly Taitz

Attorney and doctor Orly Taitz appeared today on Heraldo Rivera nationally syndicated radio show. She provided Heraldo with the following information:

Taitz is currently working with a former relational database specialist from NATO, who analyzed the voter rolls in the state of CA. The database shows 723,620 voter registrations, which are invalid due to missing birth date. CA elections code 2150, 2152 stipulate that an affidavit from an elector has to contain a valid birth date, valid country of origin, a Social Security number, drivers license or a number assigned to the voter if there is no Social Security number or Drivers License number. Aside from some 700,000 registrations without a birth date, there were over half a million registrations without a country of origin. Additionally, employees of offices of several registrars admitted that in some cases, where the databases did not contain a birth date, they simply created one, assigned a birth date such as 01.01.1850 or 01.01.1900. Consequently, thousands more potentially invalid registrations are contained in the databases, where data shows individuals, who are 150 years old and 200 years old still voting. This information was forwarded to the FBI and is a part of a legal action that is being conducted as we speak. Taitz is seeking removal from the database roll of all invalid voter registrations before the November election. She is also contesting the results of the primary election for the U.S. Senate, where she ran as a Republican candidate. In this top 2 election, where all candidates from all parties ran on one ballot and top 2 regardless of party affiliation proceeded to the general election, Taitz was polling second out of 25 candidates in 4 consecutive polls conducted by Pulse Public Opinion research, from the first day of the campaign until the right before the election. The last poll was conducted only 2 days before the election. Two day later, on the day of the election, it was announced that Taitz was not 2nd out of 25, but 5th and did not proceed to the general election. These results were suspicious and prompted research by Taitz. Current finding shows that the number of invalid voter registrations exceeds the margin by which the second placed Emken got in the top 2. Taitz is seeking nullification of the results of the senatorial primary, purging of all invalid voter registrations and re-vote. There are other causes of action in the complaint.

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Did I miss a law suit somewhere? :shock:

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But did any of them vote, Orly? Do you even know? I doubt you do. See, unless they voted, and you know who they are and can prove it, and that it would have altered the outcome of any race, there's no "voter fraud" and you don't get a re-do.

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I wonder what legal action that would be. :-k Is it tossed in with her ballot challenge to Obama? I don't remember... but I doubt it.

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Latest investigation shows at least 723,620 invalid voter registrations in CA, final number of invalid voter registrations is expected to exceed a million

PRESS RELEASE by the office of attorney Orly Taitz

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Taitz is currently working with a former relational database specialist from NATO, who analyzed the voter rolls in the state of CA.

Well, any bets that this "NATO" guy qualifies as a relational database specialist because he/she used dBASE IV on an 80286 machine with a large-capacity (60 MB) hard drive, circa 1987? :-


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Did I miss a law suit somewhere? :shock:

Taitz v. Obama (Cal. Super. Ct.).

Which, according to Taitz, has not been tossed.

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Did I miss a law suit somewhere? :shock:

Taitz v. Obama (Cal. Super. Ct.).

Which, according to Taitz, has not been tossed.


Well, she challenged his right to be on the primary ballot, asked for an injunction, and all her usual "stuff" as he's not nbc. She moved for a 45-day stay of the election results being certified. That was denined. The vote was certified. 8>

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If Orly sues the state of Orlyfornia, would this drag the CA bar off its golf course and into doing some work.







Naa, didn't think so either.

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Did I miss a law suit somewhere? :shock:

Taitz v. Obama (Cal. Super. Ct.).

Which, according to Taitz, has not been tossed.


Well, she challenged his right to be on the primary ballot, asked for an injunction, and all her usual "stuff" as he's not nbc. She moved for a 45-day stay of the election results being certified. That was denined. The vote was certified. 8>


It has not been tossed, according to Reliable Source and Orange County records. However, it is not moving forward either, also, too.

There are a few things super dooper lawyer Orly Taitz coulda shoulda done, but the clock is ticking and she just may be too late to save this case.

Just like what happened in Taitz v. Dunn.

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Dayum, when I ran for City Council (and lost, thank doG!) I ended up having to write off a $10,000 loan to myself as a bad debt to the FPPC, then had to explain 10 grand to the IRS...then the credit reporting agencies got involved. What a freaking mess that was.

Turned out that I needed to forgive the debt to myself. :roll:

Yet another reason that I will never again run for public office.

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It turns out that Orly's big donor, also the husband of her dead donor, is as nuts as Lena:

http://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-7th-circuit/1195075.html


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Dayum, when I ran for City Council ( me =D> =D> =D> ) (and lost, thank doG!) I ended up having to write off a $10,000 loan to myself as a bad debt to the FPPC, then had to explain 10 grand to the IRS...then the credit reporting agencies got involved. What a freaking mess that was.

Turned out that I needed to forgive the debt to myself. :roll:

Yet another reason that I will never again run for public office.


Sorry you didn't win. I didn't either (school board), but I am proud to run. hope you are too regardless of how it turned out.
The folks that need to forgive themselves is those that never vote or ask to be elected to a public office.

You are one of those folks who make a positive difference in this world. :-* :-bd

Thank you Estivio for trying....

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Yet another reason that I will never again run for public office.


Sorry you didn't win. I didn't either (school board), but I am proud to run. hope you are too regardless of how it turned out.
The folks that need to forgive themselves is those that never vote or ask to be elected to a public office.

You are one of those folks who make a positive difference in this world. :-* :-bd

Thank you Estivio for trying....

I was so exhausted by election night, I was happy to lose. I just didn't want it any more. I have served in local gov't, but in both cases I was appointed. (when I got appointed as Interim City Treasurer in 1996 (the elected Treasurer left to take a position in another city) there were HOWLS of indignation and outrage from a group of cranky RWNJs who'd been...vocal...in their opposition to the City Council and city staff. Most of them are dead now, but the few survivors are tea baggers.)

Orly never really tried in either of her "races," she was just whoring for the attention and hoping for a windfall of birfer bucks. And isn't she still well over a month late on a campaign finance report to the FEC? Tick tock, Orlena, tick tock. I seem to recall that DiFi got a pretty hefty fine after her last election cycle for what was, essentially, stoopit clerical errors that they couldn't figure out how to fix correctly. (the forms ain't always simple, folks, they's writ by th' gummint, y'know.)

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