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I generally drive the speed limit when it is posted at 70 or more. When the limit is under 70, I drive what I call "reasonable and prudent." Sometimes it can be as much as 72. Never in an urban environment, mind you. O'rly can't seem to do anything to perfection. I don't know why her driving would be any more precise. She's the last person who should be speeding.


Anyone know how many tickets she's got over what period of time? And at some point, wouldn't her license be suspended?


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The Fogbow has a thread on Orly's high-speed hijinx but it ends in early 2010 and she has gotten several tickets since then.
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Mustang Obly :lol:

Chilidog, Obly is a court- or officer- generated typo from one of her many speeding incidents.

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Most California courts allow a traffic violator to take traffic school every 18-24 months. But the courts don't cross-check among themselves and the DMV is essentially useless. Much like a certain Bar association.

So, a traffic scofflaw can keep taking traffic school -- online -- and needn't actually do it personally to pass. I'm not suggesting that anyone we know would do that, but it's all within the realm of possibility.

Once traffic school has been taken, the points for the violation are removed from the driver's DMV record.

This might be a good time to pray for some Rmoney retroactive conduct by a state agency.

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Most California courts allow a traffic violator to take traffic school every 18-24 months. But the courts don't cross-check among themselves and the DMV is essentially useless. Much like a certain Bar association.

So, a traffic scofflaw can keep taking traffic school -- online -- and needn't actually do it personally to pass. I'm not suggesting that anyone we know would do that, but it's all within the realm of possibility.

Once traffic school has been taken, the points for the violation are removed from the driver's DMV record.

This might be a good time to pray for some Rmoney retroactive conduct by a state agency.


That is not my experience. The limit has always been every 18 months, as far as I know, never heard 24 months. They seem to know to the day when you last had Traffic School. My ex- got a ticket 3 days short of 18 months. (And for the exact same stupid thing, a California stop at a Stop sign.) In order to avoid the points on his record and a four-year increase in insurance premiums, he had to first write a "declaration" to the Court and then go to Traffic Court itself. And beg. He then was given 12 instead of the standard 8 hours. It was torture.

I cannot figure out how Orly is getting away with this. There should be a point at which a license is suspended. How hard can it be to obey the speed law most of the time? Use cruise control to make sure you don't go over. (Spoken by someone who doesn't like to drive and is often accused of going too slow.)


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It is time to go after Judge Kreep.

How did he get elected?? with his doobious past???

Kreep needs to be evicted and disbared and put on the Island of Regrades.

Kreep needs to be disbared before he can come after Orly with subpeenas and court orders and fines and fake criticisms like they did before.

Now that his pal Berg has been discared, Kreep will be looking over his sholder. First Berg! Then Kreep!!

Anyone who attacks Orly is fare game!!! Get Kreep before he gets Orly.
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we are not “getting” anyone. If attorneys violate the rules of ethics, they get suspended

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we are not “getting” anyone. If attorneys violate the rules of ethics, they get suspended


Obviously, that's not true in Orly's case. :twisted:

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we are not “getting” anyone. If attorneys violate the rules of ethics, they get suspended


Obviously, that's not true in Orly's case. :twisted:

Obviously, cause she never was suspended (or assumingly never thretend with suspension) Orlena believes she is operating within the realm of rules of ethic (and my guess she never bothered to read them). #-o


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Obviously, cause she never was suspended (or assumingly never thretend with suspension) Orlena believes she is operating within the realm of rules of ethic (and my guess she never bothered to read them). #-o


You don't have to guess... read her blawg and her "pleadings".

It's also obvious from the same sources that if she did she could not comprehend them.

It's also obvious to me that even if she read and understood them she wouldn't give a damn and would do nothing differently.

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FWIW, and excuse me if this has been stated previously, there WAS a flaw in the CA DMV database that allowed idiots like Orly to take traffic school multiple times.

It seems that taking traffic school actually erased the infraction instead of flagging it to the miscreant's record, so if one LIED on the traffic school application...the part about, "have you attended traffic school to bunk off a ticket in the last 18 months?" If someone, say, Orly, LIED and said that she had not done the traffic school thing when she HAD? OrlanaTicketFraudGate!!!! (that loophole went away last January)

Anyway, Orly has obviously gamed the system and skated on multiple traffic tickets. Bitch needs to be frogmarched down to her local DMV and made to wait in line.

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we are not “getting” anyone. If attorneys violate the rules of ethics, they get suspended


I'm picking shards of irony meter glass from my forehead with tweezers.


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I'm picking shards of irony meter glass from my forehead with tweezers.

Don't read TFB while in the supply storage room ! ;)


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FWIW, and excuse me if this has been stated previously, there WAS a flaw in the CA DMV database that allowed idiots like Orly to take traffic school multiple times.

It seems that taking traffic school actually erased the infraction instead of flagging it to the miscreant's record, so if one LIED on the traffic school application...the part about, "have you attended traffic school to bunk off a ticket in the last 18 months?" If someone, say, Orly, LIED and said that she had not done the traffic school thing when she HAD? OrlanaTicketFraudGate!!!! (that loophole went away last January)

Anyway, Orly has obviously gamed the system and skated on multiple traffic tickets. Bitch needs to be frogmarched down to her local DMV and made to wait in line.


Oh. I guess the problem is that I deal primarily with honest people.
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I fought a ticket about three years ago. And learned a horrible, horrible lesson. While they were making a new on-ramp at the dreadful intersection of Alameda and Hollywood Way in Burbank -- a three year process no less, for one on-ramp -- they created all sorts of special lanes and constantly changed them. I turned left from one, the day after they'd changed it from an extra left turn to no left turn. They'd changed the sign above, attached to the traffic signal, but the left turn arrow on the street inside the lane, very far back, was unchanged. The line of cars was long, the light changed, I got closer to the signal and only then saw the new signage, but couldn't stop turning or I would have caused an accident. And a tight-ass Burbank cop was next to me on my left, also turning left. Such timing. In our very not-nice conversation that took place right in front of my office building so everyone I worked with coming back from lunch got to see the show, the cop acknowledged that they had just changed the lanes that day and for at least the sixth time in a year. But he failed to see the importance of the left turn arrow still painted on the street that they hadn't covered up, in the lane from which they now disallowed left turns. So I fought it. By the time I was done and lost, I'd wasted about five hours writing declarations and appeals (sound familiar?). Then, since I'd lost, they told me I couldn't go to Traffic School, unless I went to Traffic Court and asked personally to go to Traffic School. Another three hours wasted -- and I had to pay for parking, a minor fortune. Ah, California. My home state. I'll never fight a ticket again, even when I think I am right. Scratch that -- know I am right.


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I've seen many defendants get acquittals in traffic court, without lawyers. Just a few weeks ago, I testified in a traffic court hearing for a defendant because I happened to be a witness to a minor traffic accident. I was the only neutral witness to show up, so my version of what happened was accepted by the court, which found in favor of the defendant.

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On the subject of the California DMV...

My sister got a ticket in CA for almost running a cop off the road in late November. In retrospect, I believe it was caused by a minor seizure that was a preview of the major grand mal event of early December, leading to her second brain surgery followed by a three-week stint in a rehab facility -- during which time she was, well, mostly gaga.

The matter didn't come to my attention until late January, by which time she'd was in all sorts of trouble with the court for no-showing on her trial date. So I drafted a motion for abatement, accompanied by her affidavit explaining how and why she was unable to appear. The affidavit included affirmations that she had not driven a car since the event and would not be able to drive in the foreseeable future due to losses in her field of vision. Also appended was my affidavit attesting to, among other things, the authenticity of a wad of hospital documents demonstrating that she was, indeed, a brain-cancer surgical inpatient at the time of the trial. (Yeah, I know, I'm not licensed to practice in CA, so let's just call it some behind-the-scenes help to a pro se litigant.)

The motion mostly worked -- at least to the extent that they lopped off the bulk of the penalties and took her off the "suspend this license" and "impound this car" lists. She (I) paid the outstanding balance and I thought (hoped) the matter was closed.

But now I'm trying to get a California permanently disabled parking placard for her. She's all-but-paralyzed on one side, is wheelchair bound and does not (and never will) drive. The hangup? Well, the DMV claims she was required to pass a driver's education course as part of her penance and is holding that out as a pre-requisite to getting a placard. However, since her stroke of June 8th, she's way too gorked, IMO, to pass any kind of test.

Go figure. She's too handicapped to pass the test but she can't get a handicapped parking permit until she improves enough to pass the test.

Oh, I'll work through the problem eventually. But, Jeebus, it's been a PITA.

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On the subject of the California DMV...

My sister got a ticket in CA for almost running a cop off the road in late November. In retrospect, I believe it was caused by a minor seizure that was a preview of the major grand mal event of early December, leading to her second brain surgery followed by a three-week stint in a rehab facility -- during which time she was, well, mostly gaga.

The matter didn't come to my attention until late January, by which time she'd was in all sorts of trouble with the court for no-showing on her trial date. So I drafted a motion for abatement, accompanied by her affidavit explaining how and why she was unable to appear. The affidavit included affirmations that she had not driven a car since the event and would not be able to drive in the foreseeable future due to losses in her field of vision. Also appended was my affidavit attesting to, among other things, the authenticity of a wad of hospital documents demonstrating that she was, indeed, a brain-cancer surgical inpatient at the time of the trial. (Yeah, I know, I'm not licensed to practice in CA, so let's just call it some behind-the-scenes help to a pro se litigant.)

The motion mostly worked -- at least to the extent that they lopped off the bulk of the penalties and took her off the "suspend this license" and "impound this car" lists. She (I) paid the outstanding balance and I thought (hoped) the matter was closed.

But now I'm trying to get a California permanently disabled parking placard for her. She's all-but-paralyzed on one side, is wheelchair bound and does not (and never will) drive. The hangup? Well, the DMV claims she was required to pass a driver's education course as part of her penance and is holding that out as a pre-requisite to getting a placard. However, since her stroke of June 8th, she's way too gorked, IMO, to pass any kind of test.

Go figure. She's too handicapped to pass the test but she can't get a handicapped parking permit until she improves enough to pass the test.

Oh, I'll work through the problem eventually. But, Jeebus, it's been a PITA.


What I would do: Call her State Senator's office, explain it to a staff person and have them fix it. This is the one thing they are good at. State Senator's office doesn't work? Call her member of the Assembly. Really -- This is the one thing the electeds do very well in California: fix bureaucratic things you can't. Really!


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Orly's got China on the non-existent brain, and the Olympics seem to have caught her attention too. Once again, she demonstrates her keen analytical mind, her proficiency in English, together with a brilliant mastery of statistics:

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A lot is said about Chinese accomplishments during Olympics, but the results need to be put in perspective, mainly one has to look at the per capita numbers, per capita accomplishments. China has population of 1.3 billion. 34 medals received by Chinese athletes mean that if you are Chinese, you have a 1 in 39 million chance to receive a medal. after 6 days of copetition U.S. received 37 medals, slightly more than China, but per capita results are much more significant: if you are an American, you have a 5 times higher chance or 1 in 8.2 million to get a medal. If you are from New Zealand, your chance to get a medal is 50 times higher than a chance of someone from China. New Zealand got 5 medals for 4 million people or 1 medal for 0.8 million. Of course the results after 6 days of competition are not the same as the final results. We expect more medal for the US in track and field, boxing, rowing, cycling. There will be more medals for Russians and Chinese as well.


:twisted: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=211632 :twisted:

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if you are an American, you have a 5 times higher chance or 1 in 8.2 million to get a medal.

I'm an American, Orly (unlike you) and I gotta tell ya -- my chance to get an Olympic medal is precisely nil.

But keep trying. One day you will think a thing, and it will be sensible. Statistics tell me so.


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Is this a parody? Nobody is that dumb.
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if you are an American, you have a 5 times higher chance or 1 in 8.2 million to get a medal.

I'm an American, Orly (unlike you) and I gotta tell ya -- my chance to get an Olympic medal is precisely nil.

But keep trying. One day you will think a thing, and it will be sensible. Statistics tell me so.

I think there's a 1 in 8.2 million chance of that ever happening.

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Thank goodness Ryan Seacrest locked down his job before Orly applied.

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Is this a parody? Nobody is that dumb.
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if you are an American, you have a 5 times higher chance or 1 in 8.2 million to get a medal.

I'm an American, Orly (unlike you) and I gotta tell ya -- my chance to get an Olympic medal is precisely nil.

But keep trying. One day you will think a thing, and it will be sensible. Statistics tell me so.


I wonder if Lena would like to calculate the probability of me ever casting a vote for her?

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I wonder if Lena would like to calculate the probability of me ever casting a vote for her?

Lena vs Berg for Judge of the Inferior Court of Bundogs. How would you vote, GG?

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Oh, I'll work through the problem eventually. But, Jeebus, it's been a PITA.


So sorry to hear about this. Speaking as a traffic court expert myself, thanks in part to a horrendous driving record that didn't calm down until I hit my 30s, I always tell people that the best solution to complicated quandaries like this is to just get yourself in front of a judge, by hook or by crook. I know you're out of state and she's disabled, but the fact is that the judge has the power to issue all kinds of orders right on the spot and it's often easy to get that done when he or she has a live human being right in front of them (as opposed to writing letters that find their way into some pile, which get transferred to another pile, and another pile...)

Anyway, it is obviously in able hands, yours, but just wanted to pass that thought along.

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Does this rise to a level to be called libel, from a legal standpoint?

:twisted: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=207437 :twisted:


Taitz' statements about Alvin Onaka could be considered libel or slander but, if he were to sue her, he would have a high legal standard to meet. As a public official, he must unfortunately bear many slings and arrows. Public officials must prove "actual malice" behind the defendant's statements. Actual malice means that the defendant who communicates a defamatory statement does so knowing that the statement is false or very likely false. Proving that is not so easy.


Isn't there also the matter of damages? I don't think it would be all that hard to demonstrate that any reasonable person would, having been shown all the documentation that O'rly's been shown, know that her statements are false. But to what damage? Wouldn't Onaka have to show demonstrable damage to his reputation?

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Not necessarily. Accusing someone of a crime may be considered "libel per se". If so, proving specific damages may not be required.

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