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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:35 pm 
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For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen, is required for physical presence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.)


Which is exactly what has been stated here by many. She certainly met the ten-year requirement, but at the time of Obama's birth (assuming foreign birth in Kenya) she would not have met the 5 years after age 14 requirement to confer citizenship.


Yes, under the laws of those days, Obama would not have been a US citizen by birth to a US citizen parent, if she had given birth to him in Kenya or elsewhere outside of the US. However, we know that President Obama was in fact born on US soil, so the issue is moot. I understand that Klayman is hoping to prove otherwise but there is just no credible evidence to overcome the fact that the DOH of Hawaii has more than once confirmed the status.

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Orly has banned my IP. My comments to her blow off into the ether, not even to moderation.

It's so cathartic! I can say whatever I'm actually feeling, without any fear she'll sic her flying monkeys on me for being a double plus ungood Obot.

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I can hardly wait for the movie to out:
I envision in the closing shots we see Taitz locked away in a mental facility with her still mumbling to herself,
"Tratior ... Usurper ... Treason ..."

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kate520 wrote:
Orly has banned my IP. My comments to her blow off into the ether, not even to moderation.

It's so cathartic! I can say whatever I'm actually feeling, without any fear she'll sic her flying monkeys on me for being a double plus ungood Obot.


As far as I can tell, she (or cheetos) is not smart enough to know how to ban IP's. I've determined that what they do is ban email addresses - you'll notice that if you use the same posting info (email and name) after previously making a post, your post "dissapears" and doesn't even show the "Your comment will post after moderation" or whatever it says. However, if you simply change the email address and name - presto! - your post shows up as awaiting moderation.

They are completely stupid when it comes to administering their website. :lol:

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I don't comment on her site much, but when I do, my comments never show up "in moderation" but she has posted a few, so I know she gets them.


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I can hardly wait for the movie to out:
I envision in the closing shots we see Taitz locked away in a mental facility with her still mumbling to herself,
"Tratior ... Usurper ... Treason ..."
[-o<

Taitz's List? Think Spielberg could do it justice? And who would dare take the starring role? And what about a supporting cast? We could have fun with this ... :twisted:

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Sorry Bill, not true.

It doesn't matter what name or email I use, my comments no longer go through.

The last time she made changes, I could post for awhile, then was banned again.

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IllAlien wrote:
I can hardly wait for the movie to out:
I envision in the closing shots we see Taitz locked away in a mental facility with her still mumbling to herself,
"Tratior ... Usurper ... Treason ..."
[-o<

Taitz's List? Think Spielberg could do it justice? And who would dare take the starring role? And what about a supporting cast? We could have fun with this ... :twisted:


MUST be the chick with the strawberries, Hokay? The part of CEL3 to be played by a bowling ball.

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Sorry Bill, not true.

It doesn't matter what name or email I use, my comments no longer go through.

The last time she made changes, I could post for awhile, then was banned again.



Interesting. Weird how it works for me. I never get posts "through" unless I change the email I've been using. Ah well heh

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Bill's right. My puppet in moderation now.

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To ban an IP address is pretty simple with the right equipment and knowledge, however it is much easier to ban a certain e-mail address....especially for folks who have no idea how to use the Internet.

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kate520 wrote:
Bill's right. My puppet in moderation now.


She's changed it again. :D We'll see how long it lasts.

In the mean-time I will be mocking her. \:D/

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Posted it, too. She always posts when Faina trashes her enemies.

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While I have no doubt that Gibson is an anti semite and someone who hates women as well (considering the remarks he made to his girlfriend and mother of his daughter), Gibson is a nobody and not important. Important are wealthy Jewish Americans and other Americans, who need to be shamed for supporting usurper Obama. They need to be outed and shamed. Unfortunately, among them there are a lot of corrupt judges, US attorneys, AGs and other corrupt officials. I’ve seen the same degradation of morals and corruption in the Soviet Union, where out of fear corrupt judges and corrupt officials and intellectuals sold out their fellow citizens. A creator od Shindler’s list is held to a higher authority. Jews in general are held to a higher authority as Jewish people suffered from persecutions for thousands of years. Jewish people should show higher moral fabric and convictions in fighting the usurper and criminal with forged papers in the White House, who uses his attack dogs in the establishment, Judiciary, lap dog media and party establishment to attack patriots and freedom fighters lime me, like LTC Lakin, like Commander FitzPatrick, like LTC Cook, officer Dischler, officer Easterling and others. Please, help me reach as many officials and intellectuals and hold the accountable. forward to them my pleadings and docs from MS and IN. (first amended complaint, Arpaio’s affidavit and so on)

:twisted: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=117909 :twisted:

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Apparently, she is hallucinating Steven Speilberg....

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Exactly how old was she when she left the Soviet Union?

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21 according to wiki, assuming her listed 1960 birth year is accurate.

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Orly Taitz was born to a Jewish family in Chişinău, Moldavian SSR in the Soviet Union (present day Moldova).[6] Both of her parents were science teachers.[11] In 1981, Orly immigrated to Israel,[1] where she obtained a dentistry degree at Hebrew University.[1] In 1987, she met Yosef Taitz who proposed four months later. Orly immigrated to the United States in May 1987, marrying the Latvian-born[11] Yosef in Las Vegas, Nevada.[6] Taitz became a naturalized United States citizen in 1992.[2][12]She received her law degree from Taft Law School[11][13] and was admitted to practice law in California in December 2002.[14]

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Must one be a US citizen to be admitted to the California bar?

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Hell, at this stage I'm wondering if you need to be Human. (sorry Stern)

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Must one be a US citizen to be admitted to the California bar?

No.

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For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen, is required for physical presence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.)


Which is exactly what has been stated here by many. She certainly met the ten-year requirement, but at the time of Obama's birth (assuming foreign birth in Kenya) she would not have met the 5 years after age 14 requirement to confer citizenship.


I think what Lola is saying is that US Immigration authorities have been interpreting the statute as applying only to the offspring of parents who are actually residents of the foreign countries, not those who are US residents traveling abroad, even if they are very young US residents.

There would not be case law unless someone challenged that practice in court, and if that was the standard practice of the US authorities over the years... it is unlikely that anyone would have challenged it. However, it may be reflected in administrative regulations as opposed to the statute. (You would begin by looking at the CFR rather than USCA).

That would be a legal interpretation that seems inconsistent with the explicit wording of the statute, but it may be very consistent with legislative intent. So I think that it is very likely that Lola is correct -- the children of youthful American-born mothers who happen to be born abroad while the US-resident mother is traveling would probably be deemed to be citizens. This might also be reflected in the language of forms filled out by the parents in seeking a Consular Report of Birth Abroad - for example, the 5-year rule might only come into place if the parent lists a non-US address as their current residential address.


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If you were born in one of the following locations a Consular Report of Birth is not available. You must obtain your birth record from the respective Vital Records Office:

Puerto Rico
U.S. Virgin Islands
American Samoa
Guam
Swains Island

The Panama Canal Zone before October 1, 1979
The Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands prior to 1986
The Philippines before July 4, 1946



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Copy of Panama Canal Birth or Death Certificate

Only Those Listed Below May Obtain a Copy of These Records:

- The individual whose birth is recorded on the document (if age 18 or older)
- A parent or legal guardian of the individual whose birth is recorded on the document
- An authorized government agency or
- A person with written authorization


So those McCain BC are most likely forgeries. That Lamb guy couldn't have gotten them legally.

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Additional information was sent to Indiana, Mississippi and California Bar Complaints

Please advise us when this matter will be heard.

:twisted: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=118347 :twisted:

The "additional information" is the Arpaio affidavit.

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Additional information was sent to Indiana, Mississippi and California Bar Complaints

Please advise us when this matter will be heard.

:twisted: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=118347 :twisted:

The "additional information" is the Arpaio affidavit.

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Did she update the Arpaio daffydavid??? I hope so since that just digs a deeper hole.

Edit: http://www.thefogbow.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=389987#p389987

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